AD #1262 – Porsche’s First Compact SUV, Chevy Unveils Colorado, Ford Edge Concept

November 20th, 2013 at 11:58am

Runtime: 8:15

- Porsche Unveils Macan
- Chevy’s All-New Mid-Size Pickup
- Cadillac ELR
- Jaguar Pulls Wraps Off F-TYPE Coupe
- New Ford Edge Concept
- Audi A3 Gets 4G LTE

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Hello and welcome to Autoline Daily. I’m Drew Winter from WardsAuto filling in for John who is out in LA for the auto show. And here’s a look at some of what’s been revealed so far.

PORSCHE UNVEILS MACAN
Porsche finally took the wraps off its first-ever compact SUV, the Macan. The S model will be equipped with a twin-turbocharged 3.0 liter V6 that produces 340 horsepower, while the Turbo model gets a new twin-turbocharged 3.6 liter V6 that produces 400 horsepower and accelerates the Macan to 60MPH in 4.6 seconds. A 7-speed dual clutch transmission and all-wheel-drive are standard and the Macan includes other options like an air suspension system and 19-inch wheels. No word on when we will see this compact SUV, but when we do the S will start just under $50,000, while the Turbo model gets a $72,000 price tag.

CHEVY’S ALL-NEW MID-SIZE PICKUP
And speaking of finally revealed, Chevy pulled the cover back on the all-new 2014 Colorado mid-size truck. When it first hits the market it can be powered by either a 2.5 liter 4-cylinder or a 3.6 liter V6. Both engines are mated to a 6-speed automatic transmission. The truck is expected to offer a payload and trailering capacity of more than 6,700 pounds, when properly equipped. In its second year of production, the Colorado will be available with a 2.8 liter Duramax diesel engine. All trim levels are available with 2 or 4-wheel drive and can be had in 5 or 6-foot bed lengths. Production of the Colorado starts next year.

CADILLAC ELR
Cadillac started its LA Auto Show festivities yesterday by putting reporters in its Tesla fighter, better know as the ELR, for a drive around the Santa Monica Mountains. This car may be based on the Chevy Volt technology but inside and out this car is all Cadillac.

(Interview for Cadillac ELR can only be viewed in the video version of today’s show.)

And the price must’ve been designed for ELR as well starting at about 76-thousand dollars. You’ll see this new luxury alternative in Cadillac showrooms starting in January.

And while we’re talking about LA, don’t miss Autoline’s webcast from the Show today at 4pm Eastern. John will be talking with a variety of top auto execs including Hyundai’s top man in America, John Krafcik, GM’s Mark Reuss, Scott Keogh from Audi and many more. Plus you’ll see the hottest products unveiled in LA like the Chevrolet Colorado to the Porsche Macan we just talked about. For the entire list of interviews, as well as the opportunity to submit your own questions that John will ask the executive of your choice, click the link in today’s show notes at Autoline.tv.

One more time, that’s today at 4pm Eastern.

Coming up next, more from the LA Auto Show.

JAGUAR F-TYPE COUPE
Jaguar took the wraps off the F-TYPE Coupe in front of media and celebrities yesterday. Here’s a look at what it looked like.

(Video of F-TYPE Coupe reveal can only be viewed in the video version of today’s show.)

The F-TYPE is available in three versions. The R Coupe is powered by a 5.0-litre supercharged V8 engine and the other two models are powered by a 3.0-litre V6 supercharged gasoline engine that’s available with 340 horsepower or 380 horsepower. The F-TYPE Coupe goes on sale next spring.

FORD EDGE CONCEPT
Ford unveiled the Edge Concept. It features a sleeker body than the current model and the grille incorporates the trapezoidal look that some Ford cars now feature. No powertrain info was revealed other than it features stop-start technology along with Active Grille Shutters which open and close to help improve aerodynamics. The Edge Concept also features a number of automated driving technologies like self-parking, adaptive cruise with brake support, and a lane-keeping system.

A3 GETS 4G LTE
Earlier this summer Audi announced that the S3 Sportback will offer LTE or Long Term Evolution to provide a wireless internet connection in the car. And the company just announced it will offer 4G LTE in the 2015 A3. The service brings high-speed internet into the car which will allow passengers to use up to eight devices to stream audio or video via the cars Wi-Fi hotspot. It will also allow for smoother renderings of Google services that come with the nav system. In the future the 4G LTE will allow the A3 to communicate with road infrastructure and other connected vehicles. No word yet who the wireless provider will be but the company says it plans to announce that soon.

Before I go I’ve got to tell you to be on the lookout for the 2014 Ward’s 10 Best Engines list. We’re celebrating our 20th year of evaluating the auto industry’s best powertrains and this year we’re testing more than 40 nominees. This includes six diesels, three hybrids – including one hybrid that uses a supercharger. Plus two EVs and about three dozen gasoline engines. We’re testing the amazing V-8 in the Corvette Stingray, Ford’s incredible 3-cylinder EcoBoost engine – and everything in between.

For those of you who might not be familiar with the 10 Best Engines…it’s not an enthusiast list, it’s not an environmentalist list, it’s about powertrains that stand out and make people want to buy a vehicle, whether it’s a Ford GT500 or a Toyota Prius. And we have a price cap of $60,000. How are WardsAuto editors going to pick just 10 from a list of so many great nominees? Well, we drive the vehicles, fill out detailed score sheets and talk to dozens of engineers. Then we have a meeting and exchange facts, experiences and insults… until we’re done.

Check out our list of nominees at WardsAuto.com and watch for our announcement of the winners in Mid-December. The awards will be presented at a Jan. 15 ceremony in Detroit during the North American International Auto Show.

And that’s it for today’s show. Once again I’m Drew Winter from WardsAuto thanks for watching and have a great day.

58 Comments to “AD #1262 – Porsche’s First Compact SUV, Chevy Unveils Colorado, Ford Edge Concept”

  1. G.A.Branigan Says:

    I really like the new chevy colorado.They finally have a great design.Can’t say much about the engine choices though.I hope they keep with the VM Motori 2.8 ‘Duramax’ when the option does become available.

  2. drew Says:

    I have two questions about the new Colorado. 1. Why was there a 1-2 year market lapse with the old Colorado — low demand or non-compliance with new regulations? 2. Other than new skin and less competition, what makes this version more likely to consumer interest and succeed?

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2,
    The old Colorado/Canyon had substandard power trains, poor fit and finish, and just weren’t very good. Hopefully, the new ones will be much better, but they will have mandatory automatic transmissions. I suppose only 5-10% of potential buyers will care about that.

    Some, like G.A. may not like the engine offerings because they are not “trucky” enough, but I suspect they will work pretty well. The 4-valve inline 4 and V6 are in line with what the competition offer.

  4. Jon M Says:

    The exterior design of the new Colorado looks pretty good, but oh bland, boring, and drab it looks inside. It looks worse than the previous generation…and that’s pretty bad!

    I’ll be interested to see how the ELR competes against Tesla. Tesla may have received some bad press lately, but sometimes bad publicity isn’t so bad.

  5. HtG Says:

    How about a little applause for John’s ability to get so many execs to talk to him in LA.

    http://www.reactiongifs.com/tag/orson-welles/

  6. kevin m Says:

    not a bad looking Colorado chevy should have done this years ago I guess they won’t offer a two door this time around . and ford’s edge concept LOOKS PRETTY GOOD TOO I HOPE FORD WILL BUILD IT CLOSER TO THE PROUDUCTION READY ONE DUE SOON

  7. G.A.Branigan Says:

    @ Kit: For the ‘lifestyle’ truck buyers,which is chevies stated target,the readily available engine options will be just fine.For me,I need the diesel so I’ll wait for it.

  8. drew Says:

    Jon and Kit, I was also underwhelmed with the Colorado interior. I was also confused about the exterior imagry – sporty on the side (swept beltline), but classic trucky (stand-up stiff)in the front.

    Relative to the Macan, can you imagine the internal family debate about the Macan S competing with the Audi Q3 or Q5? This question hit me when I saw the Audi-like taillamps on he Macan.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It’s too bad they aren’t going to have a standard cab Colorado. These extended cab and four door things just don’t look right, as pickup trucks.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7, Also, I suspect they want the Colorado to compete with Tacoma and Frontier, rather than Silverado. Using the 3.6 rather than the 4.3 might help with that.

  11. drew Says:

    The mid-size pick-up market only needs to cab styles – one for putting people in the back and one for dry/secure storage of “stuff” that doesn’t want to be in the bed (laptop case, golf clubs, groceries, dry cleaning laundry).

  12. Bradley Says:

    The Colorado’s exterior looks nice.

    *step up to soap box*

    It even has the NON-Global single integrated red lens tail/brake/turn lights. The small percentage of owners that pull a trailer will appreciate the simpler wiring.

    It appears to have a consistent dash layout with the Silverado. Consistency is good in a product line and the Silverado has the single RED lens tail lights too.

    But wait the Chevy Cruze has Global tail lights with amber/yellow turn indicators?!?! The Chevy Spark seems to have Global tail lights outside the United States, but the images on Chevy.com look like GM swapped them out in the US. Why not leave the global tail lights? Oh, I get it. Its all about saving a penny wherever possible.

    Attention to detail is what builds perception and a sense of quality.

    Realistically, the majority of people could care less about tail lights. However, for safety-knowing that a red light always means someone is applying the brake is a massive plus. Optically, seeing an amber/yellow light for a turn signal in contrast to red tail lights is another plus.

    I simply took notice because I didn’t like the large chunks of red plastic.

    *off my soap box*

  13. Dan Clemons Says:

    Thank you. I’m headed over to Wardsauto.com right now!!!

  14. ColoradoKid Says:

    The Subaru Cross Sport BRZ

    http://jalopnik.com/the-subaru-cross-sport-design-is-the-brz-shooting-brake-1468157285

    The only one that matters at LA 2013 .

    Now if they’d only build it .

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    Chevy ( urp ) Colorado

    Great ! Yet again another cheap ___ed , Soap Box ( thanks Bradley ) pathetic GM POS that’ll undoubtedly be as bad if not worse than the previous one with the name of my great State … Colorado stuck on its rump

    Lets see now …. if GM’s market mavens were to be honest what would they call it ….. hmmmmmn …. WAIT ! …. I know …

    The Chevy Moldova ….. yeah …. that suits it much better

    Colorado indeed ! All bets are the POS couldn’t make it up one of our Class 2 trails for love or money

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    12 – Hee hee hee …. +1

  15. Mike Says:

    What I really like my Ranger for does not appear to be addressed here at all by the Colorado/Canyon. A small, low priced, fuel efficient truck is what I am after. The various extended cabs add disproportionately to the price. By the time you add 4WD, you might as well have bought the F-150 as all the fuel economy advantage/purchase price advantage is gone. Bring back the S-10!

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    If red turn signals are BRIGHT as they should be, they show up just fine. As far as expense of amber rear turn signals vs all red, there are tradeoffs both ways. Using separate, amber lights doesn’t require extra diodes, or a more complicated turn signal switch to work, but it requires an extra lens and bulb. I suspect those decisions are based more on what they want the vehicle to look like, than anything else.

    When they use all red on a vehicle, manufactures a doing a favor for those who would tow with that vehicle.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    “Bring back the S-10!”
    …or build a standard cab, 4 cylinder version of the new Colorado. It would still be bigger, and pricier than the S-10, but not as pricey as the ones they are going to offer.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14, That Cross Sport BRZ is cool. The name has a lot in common with another rear drive hatch that I really liked, the first generation Lexus IS SportCross.

  19. Bradley Says:

    #14

    Yes, that Subaru is nice.

  20. ColoradoKid Says:

    Prognostication Time

    Seeing as the Silverado and its GMC sibling are lingering on the lots sans customers …. the Colorado is too large and too expensive ( no doubt within range of base Silverado when alls said and done ) … everyone knows the previous Colorado’s were garbage …so all bets are the new one will be as well [ should of changed the moniker GM !!! ] … GM’s done bupkiss to raise their image among the truck buying consumers …. so …

    Chevy Colorado Sales ? A big fat ‘ F ‘ … once the initial excitement ( if there is any ) dies down

    ——————-

    One I got wrong though ? The Mercedes Benz CLA . Selling like funnel cakes at a county fair …. with the CLA-45′s complete first wave already spoken for well before it even hits our shores …

    All bets now being the GLA will do even better . FYI … its shorter than my GLK ….. and might just have a GLA-45 variant coming with it as well ….. Hmmmmmmnnnnnn ;-)

  21. ColoradoKid Says:

    18 – Yup !

    19 – Yup !

    Doubtful anyone from Subaru’s looking in but errrr …. get that Cross Sport BRZ on the showroom floor by December 2014 and y’all might just haver yer selves a sale

  22. Bradley Says:

    #16

    Yea, that makes sense.

    I don’t like it when a product is changed let alone cheapened to be sold in the United States.

    I think there are reasons the rest of the world uses the amber/yellow turn signal and just because it isn’t the law here, doesn’t mean GM can’t go above minimum. Ford and Chrysler have some solid red lenses too, but GM is the worst offender.

  23. HtG Says:

    that BRZ gots some buzzworthy.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It seems that a lot of manufacturers change lights on some vehicles, but not on others for the U.S. market. My Jetta TDI wagon had all red lights, but my ’86 Golf Cabriolet has amber. There seems to be limited logic as to which ones they change.

    As I said before, though, I doubt that it is to save money. There are tradeoffs both ways, just in building the car, and given the limited U.S. sales volume of Jetta wagons, I can’t imagine that they would have come close to saving enough in unit cost, to pay for making the change for the U.S. market cars.

  25. Bradley Says:

    #24

    My 2013 Jetta Sportwagen TDI has amber and mirror turn signals.

    My preference has always been amber. I became aware of it decades ago when I simply didn’t like the chunks of RED at the rear corners.

    IMO..it is a cost savings.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25,
    Mine was an ’02, the previous generation.

    The thing that surprises me, is that most U.S. market Audis have all red rear lights. I don’t understand. You’d think they would WANT them to look European, rather than looking like a 1983 Oldsmobile.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    This is what my Jetta looked like:

    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Volkswagen_Jetta_wagon_–_03-16-2012.JPG&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Jetta&h=1141&w=1888&sz=1491&tbnid=cwcS2NKtu7kJyM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=199&zoom=1&usg=__elip_2VAbbX0I2NyJrYdnDR0JGM=&docid=raZcZJmjgmvrCM&sa=X&ei=SAmNUrCcH-Tx2AXGuoGACw&ved=0CEQQ9QEwBg

  28. Next2pool Says:

    Wow–this show is so much better without a bouncing head to distract me!

  29. Bradley Says:

    #27

    Ah, that looks familiar.

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    29, Did you have one of that vintage, before your current one?

  31. Grayson Says:

    I’m sorry, Did she say the Cadillac ELR has a Watts link rear suspension? I thought that died out with the LR Discovery II and Durango.

    2:40

  32. Brett Says:

    #31
    Nothing wrong with using Watts linkage to locate the axle side-to-side. It’s a fairly desirable arrangement except that it tells us it is a non-IRS implementation. That’s unfortunate on what is ostensibly a luxury vehicle.

    One of my plans for that late, lamented Crown Vic LX Sport I used to own was to locate a complete frame section and axle assembly from a wrecked late-model Expedition with IRS and graft it into the Vic. I would’ve had the only Crown Victoria with fully independent suspension. :)

  33. Bradley Says:

    #30

    This is my first, VW, Diesel, wagon, German car, etc. It is also the largest car I have owned.

    Now if Subaru had the Levorg available, I’d probably would have bought it. But I am liking the VW a lot.

    http://jalopnik.com/hmmm-this-concept-makes-me-think-a4-avant-1467992916

  34. pedro fernandez Says:

    Crapola back on the service lift, this time: driver’s side ball bearing assembly, had almost disintegrated from use and abuse.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    33, What transmission do you have, manual or DSG?

  36. G.A.Branigan Says:

    @ #3,Kit: I watched John’s interview with Mark Reuss at the LA auto show,the new Colorado will have a manual trans available.The interior: like most other oems the quality materials goe with the higher trim levels.The highest trim level for the Colorado so far is the Z71 option,and that comes with leather,but only in yucky colors,grey and black.

  37. HtG Says:

    Does a turbo diesel 4 Colorado get your attention, GA?

  38. Kit Gerhart Says:

    36, Thanks for the info. I’d read somewhere that it would be auto only, but I’m glad they will have a manual for those who would want it.

  39. ColoradoKid Says:

    GLA-45

    Rumor no more . Its coming ;

    http://www.autoweek.com/article/20131120/CARNEWS/131129994

    Beep Beep Zip Bang !!!

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    HtG – Boy ol JS’s sure got a bug up his posterior over F1 Austin’s grossly inflated numbers …. don’t he ! Wonder if he’s got some vested interest in the event ?

  40. ColoradoKid Says:

    33 – Here’s hoping it serves you well down the road

  41. HtG Says:

    39 JS You betcha, CK. I think Joe’s feeling the heat from longtime fans of the sport who are turning away. He wouldn’t even post my comment, it was so ‘not on.’ I don’t know why F1 thinks it’ll get traction in the US with this form of racing, and with such a cockup with the tires over the summer. I did read in F1 Technical that some of the smaller teams want to eliminate wind tunnel testing, so that computer simulation would be the tool for the lads. Not likely to happen, but next year’s spec will take away some aero downforce so mechanical grip will be more important.

    But really, Joe’s the guy for reading about how the sport thinks.

  42. HtG Says:

    Did you sit through the race, CK? I dropped out when Vettel’s engineer told not to drive fast. It was on and off raining here, so I went and did some on the limit grocery shopping.

  43. G.A.Branigan Says:

    @ 37,HtG: Oh you betcha it does,and the wife is almost as happy as I am/will be ;}> We picked out the ‘Deep Forest Green Metallic’ and we both love it.We will get the ext cab,reg box,Z71 4×4,and of course the most excellent 2.8 VM Motori DI diesel.The new Colorado is the right size for us.Now…..if I that long so I can order it.

  44. cwolf Says:

    Subaru cross sport BRZ: “Fugly!!”

  45. Roger T Says:

    Cadillac ELR: So this is to target the Model S? Seems to me Mr. Musk is smarter than the General – who would choose a two door luxury compact hatchback instead of a sleek, nice looking 4 door sedan for around $75k? I imagine ELR will sell like a super expensive compact hatchback would… Don’t expect to see many (or any) on the road, and expect GM to blame the market for its failure.

  46. Kit Gerhart Says:

    45, Unlike the Tesla, the ELR doesn’t come with range anxiety standard.

  47. Kit Gerhart Says:

    45, 46
    No, I wouldn’t buy either one, even if I bought $75K cars. I’d much rather have the ELR, though, because I wouldn’t need to have a flatbed on call.

  48. HtG Says:

    Has GM released a lease number for ELR? I’m a little weary of MSRP numbers when so many people are leasing these high priced cars.

    499-599?

  49. Kit Gerhart Says:

    48, I haven’t heard, but I suspect virtually all of them will be leased. I suppose they will be re-leased when they are turned in, with complete warranties on everything.

  50. Earl Says:

    That concept Edge looks good. How soon before that Eco-Sport shows up here? The Kia Soul with its 100,000 plus sales a year should make it easy for Ford to decide to enter that segment.

  51. Kit Gerhart Says:

    50,
    If Ford wants to compete with Soul, they need to dispense with some of their complexity for complexity’s sake. The Soul is a practical, fairly priced vehicle, without the crap of many competitors. Ford could learn some lessons.

  52. pedro fernandez Says:

    Was looking at my son’s new Playstation 4 and just wondering how long b4 these geeky auto engineers decide to completely eliminate any sort of key and have your car recognize you by your voice or face or butt? and then you tell it where you are going and what kind of music you want and what temperature would you like inside and to call so and so or text so and so. Thank God for my Slorella, Vibrolla, Crapolla, with all its shortcomings.

  53. HtG Says:

    How about an iris scanning function for the back-up camera, in case you forget your keys? Or your iPhone’s finger print scanner does the same?

    Its’ a new era, and shouldn’t be held back by what guys like us are used to. Still, I look at my basic Civic as an icon. Some days I wish I still had the Miata. Like Fall days.

  54. Marshall Says:

    Interesting how there are basically no comments posted in this thread about the new Porsche Macan. Wonder if that foretells its future sales potential?

  55. pedro fernandez Says:

    #54 I think Autoline Viewers are wiser than most auto buyers and are fed up with re-badging gone out of control.

  56. Kit Gerhart Says:

    …and the announcement of yet another tall, small wagon to the U.S. market, while there are no, not one rear drive car-height wagons in the U.S. market.

  57. pedro fernandez Says:

    ..and to think that the station wagon was so damn popular in this country, the traditional family vehicle. Iacocca and the Arabs took care of eliminating that for sure!

  58. pedro fernandez Says:

    Yesterday I spent some time talking to a transmission shop owner and inquired about CVT’s. He told me flat out to avoid them at all costs, even if I have to bite the bullet and gaet a manual, when the belt breaks, they need to be completely over-hauled at a very high cost,ditto for automatics with lots of gears, the more gears, the more expensive to fix and more likely to break, that is why Toyota kept the 4 speed auto for the base Corolla and for those who demand modern stuff, they developed the CVT Corolla, but he said, those would be avoided as used cars in a few years.