AD #1502 – Honda’s FCV Concept, Shelby GT350 Mustang Returns, Lincoln Introduces Black Label

November 17th, 2014 at 11:56am

Runtime: 7:12

- Car Sharing Could Cut Into Sales
- Toyota FCV Gets New Name
- Honda Reveals FCV Concept
- Lincoln Introduces Black Label Experience
- Ford Revives New Shelby GT350 Mustang
- Will Aluminum Replace Steel?

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38 Comments to “AD #1502 – Honda’s FCV Concept, Shelby GT350 Mustang Returns, Lincoln Introduces Black Label”

  1. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Picking ‘nits’; the symbol for aluminum is Al (big A, little l), and that would actually make more sense (with your lead) that you can call me Al.

  2. Buzzerd Says:

    Re- new Ford,Since there seems to be a newer faster better sports car coming out ever month I think we can lay to rest the fear that the new fuel regs are going to kill all the performance cars.

  3. cwolf Says:

    I’ve heard many Ford dealer bodyshops have begun installing/modifying spray booths to accomodate the painting of Al bodies. Not cheap!

  4. cwolf Says:

    Car theives must love the car sharing concept; Once you get the door open the keys are right under the mat. Bet the insurace co’s. will have a fit!

  5. rick bradner Says:

    Sorry Lincoln, when I hear “Black Label” & Lincoln in the same breath, I think Carling not Johnny Walker…

  6. marshy Says:

    cwolf – car sharing has been going strong in metro areas for many years (way more than 5+). I’ve never heard any negative theft stats.

  7. marshy Says:

    Holy bicycle tires batman! Did you see that Fusion?

  8. Enn Norak Says:

    Ford’s move to aluminum on trucks gives me a warm feeling since I hate rust. On the other hand, I am unhappy that the new Mustang GT350 has a flat-plane crankshaft. I like lots of engine power but flat-plane crankshafts produce secondary vibrations which I do not like.

  9. Tim Beaumont Says:

    Pronunciation point: Re Toyota Fuel Cell Vehicle

    The Japanese for ‘future’ is usable romanized as ‘mirai’, and pronounced ‘me-rye-e’; ‘me’ as in the English personal pronoun, ‘rye’ as in the alcoholic drink, and ‘e’ as in the name of the English letter E.

    Great Show as Always

  10. MJB Says:

    Are you sure Toyota’s new FCV doesn’t stand for Freakishly Comical Vehicle?

    That design picks up where the Lexus spindle concept vehicles left off.

  11. Chuck Grenci Says:

    It looks as Toyota is making a ‘recognizable’ FCV (like it did for the Prius with its hybrid); it worked for Prius but wondering if it will work again. It does appear to be a ‘goofy’ design (in my eye).

    Lincoln’s “Black Label” is a good idea (are you listening Cadillac) though charging extra is a ‘fail’ in my opinion. It seems that that is the price of doing business from the other luxury makers. Secondary problem (for Lincoln); they don’t have ‘worthy’ product (yet), again, IMO.

  12. pedro fernandez Says:

    Once Caddy gets their “flagship” sedan to market, Lincoln will go the way of Edsel and others.

  13. MJB Says:

    12. Disco!

  14. HtG Says:

    I don’t know how the peasants feel about it, but that Black Label service from Lincoln sounds pretty sharp to me. It reminds me of how Ralph Lauren has a Purple Label line for more lux. There’s also a Black Label line that’s better fitted and motoring inspired. Isn’t the exec running this program at Lincoln a former Lexus guy? Hmmm, and Jim Farley came from Toyota, too.

  15. w l simpson Says:

    Re; aluminum—-I think composite , structure & skin , will eventually win out , using corn , ending ethanol.
    Colliding composite cars might
    just bounce off each other , but then the next problem would be rebound.
    Serious driver training before licensing would save more lives than all the air bags & anti collision devices put together.

  16. cwolf Says:

    I wonder who the buyers are who would plunk down another $6000 just to get pampered and a few pretty add-ons? I know my service guy greets me just fine…without the bribe.

  17. HtG Says:

    That is quite a bit of money. Is that just a number, or do people really have to pay that, I wonder? Maybe Lincoln just wants the majority of potential buyers to know about this program, but opt for the regular experience, having it somehow elevated in their minds.


  18. cwolf Says:

    From my perspective, this program tells me if a buyer wants to be treated as a luxury buyer you’ll have to pay for it. This is a complete 180 from Lincoln 1-2 years ago, when they touted the special treatment they had in mind for the brand to elevate it beyond the Ford’s which have become just more costly Lincoln clones.

  19. cwolf Says:

    I meant to say the Lincoln is the more costly and is in reality a Ford clone.

  20. HtG Says:

    Meh, I’ll put the MKC and MKZ next to the competitors. I saw the MKC on the highway a few days ago, and man that is nice. MKZ may have the best ass on the road.

  21. pedro fernandez Says:

    But getting top notch treatment from a luxury brand should be a given and not have to pay extra for, you don’t get the same service from a Denny’s that you get from Ruth’s Crist, as an example.

  22. cwolf Says:

    I was able to take a club members A7 for a spin today. As anyone would expect,….it’s simply wonderful in all aspects. If my aim was to flaunt my status, this car would suit me just dandy. Again, the low profiles made me feel ever bump and in all frankness, the wind noise is alot worse than my MKZ at highway speeds. For the money, I wouldn’t have expected this!

  23. HtG Says:

    Fashion must hurt, cwolf.

  24. cwolf Says:

    HtG, I drove the MKC in the process of getting my car. Drive one when you get the chance. It rides and handles very well for a small SUV. You’ll see there is no comparison between it and the Escape…none what so ever. The added width really makes it feel planted to the road.

  25. cwolf Says:

    For as far as I drive now days, I could learn to love pain! Still, the thing isn’t American…shucks!

  26. pedro fernandez Says:

    Had the opportunity to drive a new GTI yesterday and I forgot how much fun it is to drive a car that handles and steers sharply and responds to your inputs quickly w/o hesitation, the VW double clutch unit is perfect, almost like driving a manual with no self shifting. Torque was plentiful, w/o any torque steer, now I see why people go nuts for these German cars.

  27. cwolf Says:

    They are a blast to drive,are roomy and affordable. But buy the extended warranty or lease it!

  28. donfromnaples Says:

    Without an infrastructure, FCVs are not yet ready for prime time.

  29. XA351GT Says:

    I have a better name for that Toyota, FUGLY . Damn did they drive that through a ugly stick factory?

    Then to the opposite end of the spectrum that is the best looking version of the new Mustang yet.

  30. pedro fernandez Says:

    cwolf hard to believe such a solid, well put together car can be so unreliable, when you consider how long VW has been making cars. Inexcusable.

  31. cwolf Says:

    They do have that indistructable feeling when they are new. Damn shame they tend to go down hill at the end of the warranty. One of my sisters kids have one (must be a turn coat). Sis still complains about having to help covering the repair costs cuz the kid is buried in a long term loan. Youths don’t need new cars anyway when used is the more affordable.

  32. HtG Says:


    HEre’s a link to a NASA visualization of carbon dioxide emission in 2006. The vid is about 3mins. Pretty neat.

  33. pedro fernandez Says:

    Man I did a little research online and around these parts it is almost impossible to find a used Civic SI for sale

  34. aliisdad Says:

    The kind of treatment that Fancy Ford (…er, ah, I mean Lincoln) Black Label customers will get for their $6,000 is already pretty much what you get at a Mercedes Benz dealer, now, for, ah ..Free!!!
    I say unless, or until, they really become “Lincoln” again, they had better do “Black Label service” as a part of trying to be a “real” luxury marque and attract customers to put down more money for their “gussied up Fords”…

  35. aliisdad Says:

    After re-reading my post, I hope I made it clear in that I meant to say that Lincoln needs to provide super customer care to every customer without an extra charge!! It just shows their Ford roots to actually charge customers for exceptional treatment that is usually expected by those driving true luxury marques…
    I hope Lincoln can someday become the great marque that they once were, but they will have to “go the extra mile” to attract potential customers given the cars they have at present… Their products actually are pretty nice, but they are what they are until exclusive Lincoln models come along; and Lincoln will have to build to recover the damage and “down market” image that they have had in recent years… The same is probably somewhat true for Cadillac… It is really too bad to see what happened to these great old American brands… It is hard to recover your “image” once you have let it slip..
    Anyway, it would sure be nice if they can pull it off as true “luxury brands” again…

  36. MJB Says:

    35. Cadillac’s come-back is making bigger strides than Lincoln’s right now (and without $6k up-charges for a couple of pre-selected wood trim and leather options).

    The recent MKC ad lampoons by Jim Carrey will only go so far in helping Lincoln gain momentum. Cadillac’s got one or two industry awards under it’s belt already. Plus their designs are managing to recapture some of the old road presence they used to have (not literally, but relative to other cars on the road) back in the ’60s.

  37. C-Tech Says:

    I would say those running Lincoln still do not get it. When BMW, Lexus, Cadillac, M-B, etc. already offer complimentary car washes anytime, loaner cars, and a higher level of customer service without paying an extra $6k, why should I buy Lincoln, with or without the black label?

  38. C-Tech Says:

    Lincoln needs a hot rod! Give them the 5.2L flat-plane engine in a unique to Lincoln coupe, the MKIX.