AD #1560 – Apple Poaching EV Workers, New Autonomous Vehicle, Infiniti Shows QX30 Concept

February 19th, 2015 at 12:05pm

Runtime: 9:24

- Apple Poaching People for Its EV
- Peugeot Updates B-Segment 208
- Rinspeed Introduces Its Budii
- How to Overcome Cyber Security Issues
- Infiniti’s QX30 Concept
- You Said It!

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25 Comments to “AD #1560 – Apple Poaching EV Workers, New Autonomous Vehicle, Infiniti Shows QX30 Concept”

  1. Mike Says:

    The problem with the “poaching” concept is that most workers are now “at will” employees. Meaning the company demands the right to let them go at any time. If apple is offering more money/better opportunities, why shouldn’t the workers have the same rights to move ‘At will” the company wants for itself?

  2. dcars Says:

    Is it poaching if people are answering an add for employment? A123 was in bankruptcy and was purchased by a foreign company. If it was me, I’d go to Apple.

  3. Mike Says:

    The concept of Intellectual Property ownership is a very slippery slope. If someone becomes an expert in batteries while at A123, how much of that knowledge becomes their personal property that can then be used on the next job?

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I suppose the iCar, when it hits production, will be one more nail in the coffin of U.S. manufacturing. It will probably be built in China, like every other Apple product.

  5. Brett Says:

    They’re not considered “employees” anymore. They are “human resources”, abstracting their physical reality as human beings with the kind of emotions or needs that their employers may have and transforming them into faceless units of labor.

    You know… serfs.

  6. pedro fernandez Says:

    Do you suppose soon we will add Cuba’s almost slave like work force to the mix as well? Working for the Yankee imperialist for $10 USD per day.

  7. G.A.Branigan Says:

    ” faceless units of labor”….what a horrible truth.

  8. bobD Says:

    John, what is the basis for saying “poaching” is illegal? Assuming Apple is simply going after skilled engineers and offering them better salaries and benefits, that is called free market recruiting. If A123 wanted to keep their employees, they should have been compensating their employees competitively or negotiated longer-term employment contracts.

    With that said, I do find it a little ironic that Apple is caught up in this after so many years of Apple and other Silicon Valley companies secretly agreeing to not poach each other employees to suppress salaries.

  9. HtG Says:

    Hey A123, Apple’s war chest is bigger than yours.

    Sidebar please your honor: what if engineers are actually sending Apple their resumes? Huh? People actually want to work there?

  10. HtG Says:

    Oliver All Over Again

    Maybe ask Oliver about direct injection engines and gunk on inlet valves over the long term?

  11. pedro fernandez Says:

    Nah, he’ll just downplay it, saying something like VW has more experience than others with GDI so while others might have some issues, our own studies have shown that our engines don’t have this problem. And his nose should get longer as he makes this statement.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    VW has produced a lot of GDI engines over several years, so they would know the problems, but are unlikely to admit to the problems.

  13. DaveT Says:

    If the A123 employees are sending resumes unsolicited to Apple, then they are fair game.. period. Their adhering to A123 confidentiality agreements is another topic. This is just a nuisance lawsuit to try to scare potential employees and slow Apple from hiring more of their folks.

  14. Bob White Says:


    Keep in mind that Apple, Amazon, Facebook… aren’t American companies. They are all registered in Ireland and have a complex maze of shell companies to ensure that they virtually pay almost no tax and none to the US government. What great corporate citizens they are!

  15. cwolf Says:

    It will be a difficult case to prove “poaching” was a deliberate act unless it is shown that a good number of new hired engr’s. worked in R&D or heavily involved with the latest concepts. Considering the number of engineers needed, those leaving A123 is a pittance. As said above, workers are just a number to large co’s, therefore any meaning of devotion flew the coup long ago.

  16. HtG Says:

    Awesome, Awesome, Awesome NASCAR video, John!

    Let’s go to the replay!

  17. M360 Says:

    Just asking: Do you like the new 2016 Chevrolet Equinox or the new 2015 Nissan Murano the better? Personally, I like the Nurano better. I think they put more thought into it and it shows.

  18. C-Tech Says:

    What is meant by employee poaching? Is Apple doing interviews on A123 property? Are they getting engineers drunk and when they pass out drag them over to Apple? Is there a limit to the number of employees you can hire from another company?

    From yesterday, in the late 80-early 90′s the Buick H-platform (LeSabre, Electra) was good, but the A, X, and J cars were less than stellar.

    I have not seen any breakdowns of direct injected engines which can be blamed on the direct injection system. VW d.i. engines tend to break down or leak on their own accord, with help from the injection system.

  19. C-Tech Says:

    Correction – ….without help from the injection system.

  20. Chuck Grenci Says:

    One problem reported with GDI engines is the potential for ‘coking’ of the intake valves resulting in mpg and drive-ability issues. This can occur when PCV gases are routed through the intake system to be burned, and since gasoline is direct injected, the cleaners (in the gasoline) don’t get to ‘wash’ the intake valves with cleaner. Another occurrence that has been reported is with increased soot exiting the tailpipe. Perhaps this might be a topic of Sean’s Autoline Garage.

  21. Marshall Says:

    Regarding the post about Ram vehicles. Put simply it was a dumb idea to try to separate Ram from Dodge. People will always call them Dodge rams. Besides, the only place to buy a Ram vehicle is at a Dodge dealership, right!?

  22. DonC Says:

    Poaching employees is NOT illegal. That’s crazy. It may be that the employee in question has a non-compete which would be a different matter. However, under California law the chances of keeping an employee from going to work for another company is close to zero. These type of clauses are simply not enforceable in CA. Maybe for a CEO or CFO but certainly not for an engineer. Trying to do this is just tilting at windmills.

    The fact you can’t legally keep companies from hiring your employees is evidenced by Steve Jobs needing to violate the anti-trust laws to get this to happen. If he could have done this legally just through employment contracts he wouldn’t have needed to resort to antitrust violations to get it done.

  23. DonC Says:

    Article about the settlement for agreeing NOT to poach employees. The lesson is clear: Poaching is fine; agreeing to poach is not fine.

    Management at A123 needs to realize they’re not in China anymore. The peasants have rights. LOL

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    21 You not only buy a Ram at a Dodge dealership, but from what I have seen over recent years, you buy it at a Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep dealership. In some cases, it is also a Fiat dealership. Are there any single brand Chrysler dealers, like in large cities? I don’t know.

  25. pedro fernandez Says:

    Kit this is the same I see here in So Fl I guess so many models under one roof gives buyers a lot more choices w/o driving all over the place.