AD #1750 – VW Submits Diesel Recall Plan, Ford Simulates Driving Stoned, Fiat Loses a Fortune on Electric Cars

November 23rd, 2015 at 11:48am

Runtime: 6:35

- VW Submits Recall Plan, List Keeps Growing
- Ford Suit Simulates Drugged Driving
- Toyota Wins Sprint Cup
- Fiat’s EV Fiasco
- UAW Contracts Ratified
- Lincoln’s New Face Explained

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35 Comments to “AD #1750 – VW Submits Diesel Recall Plan, Ford Simulates Driving Stoned, Fiat Loses a Fortune on Electric Cars”

  1. MJB Says:

    Once again, I really do like the look of Lincoln’s new grille. But, for cryin’ out loud, did they do it in a cave they’d been shut-up in for the last 5 years?

    How anyone (there at Lincoln) could not see the blatant resemblance to both Jaguar and Audi in the entire front end of the MKZ is simply mind boggling. And they say this will be the look spread across their entire lineup?

    But then again perhaps, as most things do, this looks much different in-person. Maybe the camera is playing tricks on my eye, and it doesn’t mimic the Jag + Audi as much as I am being led to believe…

  2. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I have nothing against Kyle Busch, but is it just me, or is this NASCAR system to pick a “champion” riduculous? According to a site that determines such things for us, Busch would have finished 20th if they, you know, just added up the points from all of the races.

  3. HtG Says:

    MJB, Lincoln may argue they were there first with that grill.

  4. Bob Wilson Says:

    I understand the BBC program Panorama ran a set of tests “. . . a VW Passat Blue Motion diesel to an accredited testing laboratory in the Czech Republic.” Sure enough, they observed the “defeat device” software in operation:

    “. . . The same car failed, spectacularly. Emitting 435 mg/km of NOx (remember the EU limit is 180 mg/km).

    So, drive the same drive, but fool the car into thinking it’s on a real road, and it chucks out two-and-a-half times the amount of pollution as before. . . .”

    The interesting thing is the EU Technical Commission vote to doubled the allowable NOx emissions a couple of weeks ago from the Bin 6 standard. So maybe it won’t be so bad in ‘cough cough’ Europe.

    Bob Wilson

  5. Rob Says:

    I’m not sold on using the same grill or stylings across the board. I understand the desire behind brand recognition, but each brands vehicles all look the same just offered in small medium and large and SUV/CUV.
    I guess it makes it easier for the design studios to be lazy. Come up with one design and just increase or decrease the size.

  6. Lisk Says:

    VW appears to being trying to sweep this under the rug before any fixes are really done. I’m not sure if the lawyers in Europe are as litigious as they are in the States, but I don’t think they are out of the woods in Europe on this technicality.

  7. MJB Says:

    #5. Hence the look-alike Audi A4, A6 & A8 lineup…

    Regrettably, Cadillac’s not far behind on its XTS and CTS.

    Simply not enough differentiation in my opinion.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #7…and the BMW 1 through 7, and the X-1 through whatever. It works for BMW, but their front end styling is more distintive than most, now that Lincoln is phasing out their recent theme.

  9. Drew Says:

    So, Rob, do you characterize M-B, BMW, and Audi designers as “lazy”? I’d rather have a “lazy” designer than a bad designer (I gag on most Nissan and Toyota designs).

    Don’t get me wrong. I understand the desire to be different (e.g., Mini). But being different shouldn’t be “bad different” (Cube, Element, Versa, GT-R, Sentra, Titan, Armada/Q, Yaris, Crapolla, Highlander, FJ, GS, RX). I know I threw a Honda in there, but was so bad, I couldn’t resist. In fact, Nissan and Toyota has spewed so many aesthetic turds, I have nearly forgotten the Aztec and the last generation Grand Prix (they couldn’t make up their mind about the altitude of the body side molding and used a tongue depressor for the decklid spoiler).

  10. BobD Says:

    It has been a few weeks since the roll out of new program graphics and I have to say, the more I see them, the more I like them. It is almost addictive to watch what drops out of the magic triangle in the upper right corner. Kudos to the graphic designer who came up with the theme. Kudos to Sean too for delivering the best auto news in the business.

  11. Tony Gray Says:

    Kit #2,

    I’m not a Kyle Busch fan either, but he had a remarkable comeback. And all the other guys had the same opportunity to win that chase.

    After some initial skepticism about the current chase elimination format, I must say I am embracing it as it puts the emphasis on winning. No sandbagging allowed even in the final race.

    Just my 2 cents. I’m not as much of a NASCAR fan as I was in the past, and IndyCar isn’t even open wheel anymore!

  12. MJB Says:

    #8. Ahhh, yes… I’d forgotten about BMW. Such a shame too. Prior to this current generation of styling, they were easily distinguishable from one another. But now they do rather blend together.

    The 5 series is so handsomely designed and well re-proportioned that I keep nearly mistaking it for the 7. I’m sure all the folk who have to settle for the 5 for budgetary reasons are feeling good about that, but the 7 series folk may not.

  13. Rob Says:

    #9 Yes I would say BMW MB an Audi are no different. It’s not specifically the designers that are lazy, I’m sure its management direction that pushes for this common look across the board. They all do it and make it difficult to distinguish a Chevy Cruze from a Malibu from an Impala, or a Fiesta from a Focus or Fusion from a Taurus. I just miss the days when a car was a piece of art all on its own and did not necessarily have to look like anything else in the lineup.

  14. Chuck Grenci Says:

    #2 Kit
    I’m with you; and additionally, most of NASCAR races are just ‘run-around’ for 9 tenths of the laps, call a caution, then roll the dice…… and there’s your winner. I don’t watch much of NASCAR lately (used to be a big fan, going back to the late sixties) just can’t accept the newer formats (that they call racing). Occasionally I can accept a race, through screwy circumstances, not the obviously best car/driver doesn’t win, but with NASCAR, just about most/all of the races end this way. I have been a Formula 1 convert for the last ten years.

  15. Brett Says:

    NASCAR’s problem is that they added enough races that their season stretched into the NFL season and they had to compete for viewers.

    With the previous points setup, you could sew up the championship a month or so before the final race and that was death for viewership.

    I was a die-hard fan of NASCAR from the early 60s until about 2005. They lost me.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #11 I agree that Kyle had a remarkable comeback, and if he’d run the entire season, he may well have won the championship with the system used before the “chase,” where the whole season counted. He is one of the best drivers, and is maturing to where he is becoming more consistent.

    My problem with the current format, is that a motor race is much more a random event than a football game. With this format, one crash or mechanical problem can put a driver/team out of contention for the “championship,” no matter how good they are.

    I’m not a big NASCAR fan either, and paid even less attention than usual the last two years, knowing that the “championship” is, basically, a random event.

    In spite of everything wrong with F1, I like the point system that gives points only for about the top half of the field, with extra emphasis on winning, and finishing high.

  17. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Car designers, as a whole are not lazy, and are actually quite competitive in getting their rendition approved (there are many styling contests within the studio) and a family resemblance is almost mandatory for existing models. As mentioned, the manufacturers have their unique styling ques that they wish to follow and more than usual accomplish their goals.

  18. HtG Says:

    I like having a race on while I read. I pay a bit of attention until the last few dozen laps. Generally, I find the racing hard to understand and follow. As a fan of Kyle Busch I’m okay with how things ended. ;)


  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’m ok with Kyle winning, but the “system,” not so much.

    It Toyota an American car company, now that they won a NASCAR championship?

  20. Lisk Says:

    #16 – NASCAR has the ability to change their rules to their wishes. Unlike F1, teams get no say in the rules, or how they are interpreted. NASCAR’s current chase system makes no sense ask it can reward those with poor season long performance to enter “the chase” just by winning a race. It’s like letting a 5-11 football team into the Superbowl because they beat and opponent 30-0.

  21. HtG Says:

    F1 really needs to fix itself. Sadly they seem to be trying to find the secret to killing their golden goose.

  22. Thomas Bailey Says:

    Sean, thanks for the news as always, but especially on your design redo of “Autoline Daily”. What an improvement!

  23. cwolf Says:

    One thought on Fords drug simulation driving; Where did they get the participants to come up with a standard? I know…I know, the assembly line!

  24. gary susie Says:

    I liked Nascar in the 60′s when they bought a car off the showroom floor and raced it. Now they are pretty much all the same car.

  25. gary susie Says:

    I liked Nascar in the 60′s when they bought a car off the showroom floor and raced it. Now they are pretty much all the same car.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22, 23 The problem with NASCAR in the 60′s, was that they killed a lot of drivers. Videos of the old races are fun to watch, though.

    They could make pit stops more interesting if they required the teams to use the jack and lug wrench that come with a stock Camry, SS, or Fusion, if they still have a jack and lug wrench.

  27. cwolf Says:

    The Ford drug simulation drive gave me a chuckle. How did the developers for this demonstration establish a truthful standard?; Some of you may have thoughts the participants came from one of the assembly lines. But jokingly of course!

    Sean/Ben: see my note to Sean on his Skyline site requesting a change in address. Please reply

  28. cwolf Says:

    Pfizer bought Allergan. Point is, Allergan is only a tool for Pfizer to avoid paying taxes. This seems to be a trend for US companies, including the OEM’s in time. IMO the UAW doesn’t look so bad after all!

  29. C-Tech Says:

    Kyle Busch won the driver’s championship. I believe Chevrolet won the manufacturer’s championship.

  30. XA351GT Says:

    So it seems every manufacturer is losing their shirts on EVs so they are going to make more EVs . So exactly how does this work again ? Is this like Obama’s spend your way out of debt scheme.

  31. Marshall Says:

    VW continues to make bad decisions, saying they will not offer their European customers the same Goodwill Package that they give to North American customers. Does VW really want to anger customers in their biggest market?

  32. Marshall Says:

    VW continues to make bad decisions, saying they will not offer their European customers the same Goodwill Package that they give to North American customers. Does VW really want to anger customers in their biggest market?

  33. HtG Says:

    It could be that US regulators jawboned VW. Remember, it’s agencies like EPA that have the power to make criminal referals to the dept of justice.

  34. Jonathan Says:

    The new MKZ looks good and the 400 hp AWD setup sounds strong.

    That older front end winged thing always had looked wrong to me…glad they changed it to the new grill.

    400 ponies with AWD will kick Cadillac where the sun doesn’t shine.

    Look forward to a test drive.

  35. Miro Kefurt Says:

    How about the 3 ZEV Credits from CA that otherwise would result in $15,000 fine if they did not HAVE EV in CA.