AD #1832 – Mahindra Sued for Fraud, GM Scores Ignition Lawsuit Victory, 1st Look: Formula E’s Roborace Car

March 31st, 2016 at 11:46am

Runtime: 6:55

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- Tesla Model 3 Unveil Tonight
- GM Winning Ignition Lawsuits
- Mahindra Sued for Fraud
- Student Essay Contest
- Ford Creates New Dynamometer for Super Duty
- Peugeot Updates Expert Van
- 1st Look: Formula E’s Roborace Car

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28 Comments to “AD #1832 – Mahindra Sued for Fraud, GM Scores Ignition Lawsuit Victory, 1st Look: Formula E’s Roborace Car”

  1. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Robo racing.Giant slot cars.Maybe it will be cool.I’d like to see the driver’s station,any chance? Would the controls have the feedback? Sean,you opened up a can of worms,we need more;}>

  2. Lisk Says:

    I am looking forward to the “robo racing”. Will the cars be “connected” or will the cars be rolling around free having to anticipate the next move? This will greatly help in the development of software for mixing autonomy and human controlled vehicles. Of course, if the cars have to follow the three laws of robotics, will it be a follow the leader event?

  3. buzzerd Says:

    Robot Racing- I don’t see the ” hook” . Racing or sporting events or movies all have to have a ” hook” to draw in the audience and keep them. Racing series have generally promoted the driver first and then manufacturer second. Fans that aren’t familiar with the individual drivers can still root for Chevy or Ford, Yamaha or BMW..But with Robot Racing who or what am I rooting for? Why do I care what happens or what wins?

  4. Brett Says:

    I was part of the slot car era in the early 60s. There are economic aspects of commercial tracks that doomed them from a business perspective (that I won’t get into here), but the biggest issue that killed slot car racing then was when they stopped being scale models that you raced and became odd, wedge-shaped devices that went so damned fast, nobody could watch a race and know what was going on.

    I foresee that as an issue with the robo-racing. They have no driver to root for, they don’t look like anything we recognize, and, being unencumbered with safety gear or concerns for protecting a human passenger, they will be absurdly fast and hard to follow.

    Just my two cents…

  5. G.A.Branigan Says:

    I too had my slot cars back in the 60′s,and they were fun.You can still root for your favorite driver,who is behind the scenes,in air conditioned comfort and a couple of cup holders for his drinks as he ‘drives’,lol.
    C’mon guys,this may actually be fun.At the very least,we could watch it fail,and have a laugh about it.

  6. RumNCoke Says:

    At least with slot cars you can participate with a controller. Robo Racing sounds about as interesting as watching paint dry. How about adding “random” human-generated obstacles on the track just to keep it entertaining.

    BTW – I think the robots are already here. Have you ever seen an interview with Kimi Raikkonen?

  7. Lisk Says:

    I have about 60′ of HO slot car track set up in the attic of my garage. I tried to get my lady friends kid interested in it but without a “reset” button it was just too much effort to retrieve a car that went off the track. Today’s kids, maybe they will enjoy the robo racing. BTW, will robots handle the pit stops?

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    To me, R/C racing killed slot car racing. I did a little, very little with slots in the 60′s, but was fairly active in R/C racing in the 80′s. It was a good winter alternative to model airplane flying. I did only electric racing, mostly indoors.

  9. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I have a box of slot-cars in my garage (from my youth), Cox controller (thumb plunge style) and the remnants of a Cox Chaparral; good times (the sixties). Thirty to fifty cents per 15 minutes on the commercial tracks depending on which track chosen. I too moved on to R.C., as Kit; had airplanes, boats, dune buggies and cars.

    Robo races; not sure yet but I’ll give them a look when they try them out.

    Granted GM did some shady stuff (involving the ignition switches) but leave it to the personal deadbeats trying to rip off the system; glad GM beat the cheaters.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    As with NASCAR, the thing that will generate interest in autonomous racing will be crashes. If there aren’t crashes, it will be an indication that autonomous driving might actually be close to ready for street driving. Closed course racing would be a lot easier, though, with the cars going the same direction, no bicycles going the wrong way, etc.

  11. Roger T Says:

    Robo racers mean autonomous, I.e. You could root for the software engineer behind the code of a certain car, or the battery technology powering the thing. Instead of Chevy or Ford Your options could be Siemens or Allen Bradley. I doubt there will be someone with a remote somewhere.

  12. Rob Says:

    Okay Robo racing could be interesting to me if they managed it like a playoff series and had actual drivers competing against the robo cars. Not sure how the race drivers would feel about being on the track with a unmanned race car but I would watch that. The old man vs machine competition.

  13. Rob Says:

    Also on the robo racing there would have to be some human interaction factor. Otherwise it will be like turning on your Xbox racing game then setting your controller down and watching the computer controlled cars race each other. Yawn….

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Yeah, the human driver against the autonomous machine would be interesting. The drivers wouldn’t like getting beat by the computers, if it turned out that way.

  15. Curtis Easter Says:

    Who are the sponsors in Roboracing? Is there a driver / controller behind the scenes? Will there be 1 or 2 car suppliers or a formula of rules which allows creativity (bring back the 6 wheeled race car !)?. On a separate note, whoever said that about the kids not wanting to retrieve their slot cars was spot on!

  16. SpicyMatzahBall Says:

    C’mon guys, robo racing could be awesome! I agree with Kit, crashes would make it more exciting… but crashes will get old quick when there’s no human element of worrying about the driver’s safety. But think real-life mario kart. If robo racers start flinging tortoise shells at each other, it’s game over for human driver racing.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 Google and Apple would be good sponsors. They could carry their iOS/Android rivalry to a new venue.

  18. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Wayyy after slot cars,I did get into rc monster trucks for a while,then boats and rc helis.Now I’m going into giant scale rc planes.That’s why I bought my van.

    This robo racing is gonna happen,at the very least,for a short time.Who knows,it may actually be fun.How would ya know until the first televised race.I’ll watch at least one race,which for me would be a world shaker because racing millionairs bore the hell out of me.

  19. BobD Says:

    RE: Dyno sleds — I find it rather humorous for Ford to publish a Press Release bragging about needing a bigger dyno sled behind their new Super-Duty pickups because the older ones were now too small to do the job. This is pure creative marketing (that seemed to work since Autoline picked up the story). I’m sure Ford owns larger sled dynos when they are testing their F-550, F-650, and F-750 medium duty truck. In my former life, back in the 1980s, we had very similar dyno sleds large enough to pulled behind transit buses and Class 8 dump trucks, so there is nothing news worthy about needing a “bigger” one for the Ford Super Duty pickup.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Ford seems to have a recent history of exagerated PR in other areas too, as with their marketing buzz term “EcoBoost.”

    http://m.wardsauto.com/2015/where-s-eco-ecoboost

  21. Bob Wilson Says:

    Hi,

    The web link is to the Tesla Model 3, YouTube reveal: $35k, 215 mile range, 0-60 in 6 seconds, auto-driving hardware built-in.

    Now if Tesla could just find some frustrated dealers who might want to switch to a USA manufacturer.

    Bob Wilson

  22. Bob Wilson Says:

    Sorry, the YouTube link hits the “Leave a Comment.” Just use:

    https://youtu.be/Q4VGQPk2Dl8

    Bob Wilson

  23. Rob Says:

    #21 Doesn’t matter as Tesla doesn’t want a dealer network.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 He’s not a great speaker, but kept the crowd going. The car is impressive, if it performs, and ends up being priced as advertised. Maybe a price is “locked in” if you put up your $1000 deposit now.

    Still, I’ll believe it when I see it, but I’m impressed, so far.

  25. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Watched the U-tube; wow, I was witness to the next ‘messiah’ coming(sarcasm intended). It looks quite good but the crowd was a little too enthusiastic on most utterances by Musk (I believe they have, or are going to, drink the ‘kool aid’. The curmudgeon in me is rooting for the Chevy Bolt to take away some of the sales but “The Force is strong with this one”. :D

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 It was a little like a Steve Jobs era iPhone intro.

    It looks like the $35K price is after a $7.5K tex rebate, except that the 200,000 tax rebates per manufacturer will be used up, before deliveries of the Model 3 begin. It will be interesting to see how things transpire.

  27. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Good points, all, Kit; I too am anxious to see what happens at Tesla in the next couple years. They’ve got to start making/banking money pretty soon (seems to me) for them to survive.

  28. Bob Wilson Says:

    Tesla has already decimated the $100k car market. The more affordable Model 3 brings that down to the next tier.

    The existing Tesla models are selling fast enough that the Federal subsidy will be gone before a Model 3 shows up. But the Model 3 is low enough, Tesla won’t need it.

    In 2017, we’ll get to choose between: (1) Prius ECO; Pacifica plug-in minivan, and; (3) Model 3. It is so nice to have choices and two are USA companies.

    Bob Wilson, Huntsville, AL