AD #1921 – Camilo Pardo Designs Car for Local Motors, IndyCar Ditches Unique Aero Kits, Mercedes Teases New Maybach

August 11th, 2016 at 12:07pm

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- Continental Wants Autonomous Coalition
- Mexican Market Sizzles
- Camilo Pardo’s 3E For 3D Printing
- My Oh Maybach
- On a Wing and a Prayer
- Red Hot Manufacturing

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14 Comments to “AD #1921 – Camilo Pardo Designs Car for Local Motors, IndyCar Ditches Unique Aero Kits, Mercedes Teases New Maybach”

  1. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I’m still not convinced on Local Motors claim to make a dent in the automotive market (anytime soon, or later for that matter). But I will, for sure, be watching AAH later and seeing if my opinion will change. Don’t get me wrong, I am a proponent for 3D printing, just not a majority of an automobile. JMO or my two-cents; whichever the least. I’m still waiting on something (more) from the opposed cylinder engine (it’s been years since first mentioned with little progress, again IMO, on its acceptance).

  2. Lisk Says:

    It’s a shame Indycar & NASCAR have become spec racing series. Racing used to be about innovation, now it’s about fairness. If you come up with a better solution to the problem, you should be free to implement it. F1, for all the draconian regulations, still allows teams to build better mouse traps. In Indycar, teams used to build their own chassis. As for NASCAR, the “aero wars” would have never happened. Cars like the Superbird, Charger 500, and Ford Talladega would have missing from our history books. Even in the early 80s, the sleek 1983 Thunderbird popped up, forcing Chevy to build the Monte Carlo SS & Aerocoupe and Pontiac, the Grand Prix 2+2.
    Real racing is not a bunch of identical cars running around.

    As for Mercedes & Maybach, can someone in marketing remind them of the last disaster? Did Maybach even sell 1,000 cars during it’s last try?

  3. Buzzerd Says:

    That’s interesting news about the hot stamping. As a firefighter I see some pretty bad collisions that people can walk away from because of technology like that. Bad news is that when you do have to extricate people it’s getting more difficult and departments are having to upgrade equipment more often to keep up with changing materials.

  4. John McElroy Says:

    #3. Buzzerd, you’re absolutely right. Most Jaws-of-life cannot cut through UHSS. Upfitters tell us they can’t even drill holes in it.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2 I grew up during the “golden age” of Indy and NASCAR racing, the 1950′s and 1960′s. It was much more interesting with multiple chassis builders for Indy, and real cars in NASCAR. The down side, was that a lot of drivers were killed. I still fondly remember the time when I looked forward to the Indy 500 radio broadcast months in advance, and went to the track on pole day several times.

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The Maybach was/is for those with lots of money who want a Rolls-Royce experience, without being so conspicuous. There don’t seem to be many such people.

  7. Rick W Says:

    @1,
    I’ve been wondering the same thing regarding the opposed piston engine that has been discussed in depth over the years with the Top People responsible with company(s)designing, engineering and building these engines on AAH before.

    During those interviews it seemed that the introduction of these types of engines wouldn’t be that long in coming to market. I remember one of the men saying that they were entertaining a possible contract with the US military, but I’ve not heard any more about it since then, which has been about 2 years now, IIRC.

    I must admit that I don’t subscribe to any automotive magazines and mostly rely on Autoline.tv for all my automotive information. So I’m sure I have missed some press reports about the progression of these various companies.

    Maybe John and Gary could do an AAH in the near future to discuss the progress of the research and development of what seemed to be a promising engine design for the industry.

    Thanks for listening to us little people out here in podunk and look forward to your response.

    Rick W.

  8. Rick W Says:

    And one more thing.
    I totally enjoyed your AAH show on Local Motors.
    I think they will have the success they are looking for not only in the small production of cars in micro-markets but also their efforts in the autonomous small passenger buses in certain markets around the world.

    We all talk about Cars, Airlines and such in the terms of cradle to grave, but they have totally introduced the true Cradle to Cradle concept.
    Very exciting and interested to see how they do on their path to an eventual IPO.
    Will certainly be looking for their ticker name on whatever exchange they may end up on.
    Seems they are on the right path and paving the way for other companies to possibly join them in the future as it pertains to manufacturing complete products using this technology.

    And as was mentioned, it has the very real possibility to keep jobs in this country producing the products we use every day.
    Why manufacture GE appliances and other products (as was mentioned during the interview)in Mexico and elsewhere when they can be made here, in the great US of A employing US citizens. I’m all for it.

    Very educational show for me and want to thank you for taping that show and asking all the right questions.

  9. MJB Says:

    #2 Lisk – Mercedes’ last Maybach disaster was due entirely to the awfulness of that design. Though its interior was stellar, that part that’s seen by the masses was not.

    Trust me (#6 Kit), There is no shortage of folk in that demographic (over 8million millionaire households & over 500k billionaires in the US alone). It’s one thing to be inconspicuous about one’s wealth. It’s another to be seen in a car who’s designers tried so hard to make it inconspicuous, it ended up conspicuously unappealing – resembling a second generation Hyundai.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #9 To me, the Maybach was inconspicuous more like an S-Class at Rolls-Royce prices,than a Hyundai at Rolls prices. Either way, the Maybach didn’t appeal to many of those rich people.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #1, #7 Could it be that the opposed piston engine has no advantages over regular engines, except being “different,” but has the disadvantage of being more complex?

  12. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Watched the show (AAH, Local Motors) and while I laud their optimism, I was a little put back on their arrogance. They are a little over the top on thinking that their way is the right way; I think that they need to partner with the ‘big boys’ and mutually develop better parts. I don’t see thousands of small manufacturing sites producing (to the volume) of what is currently produced. I see a niche market (in the niche market); that’s where I think they might make inroads.

    Kit, if I recall the opposed cylinder engine, what they were supposedly offering was better mpg and less complexity. Yes, an update on their progress would be welcomed.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Yeah, I’d like to hear a progress report on the opposed cyl engine too. The complexity I remember is two crankshafts, geared or chained together somehow, for a one cylinder engine. It strikes me a little like the Fish carburetor that would make a ’58 Buick with a one-speed automatic get 60 mpg. OK, I’m exagerating the claims for the Fish carburetor, but they were unbelievable, for good reason.

  14. Ukendoit Says:

    EcoMotors last update on their website is almost a year old. In October 2015, they announced that Bill Gates and the founder of Sun Microsystems were investing in their OPOC engines, and China’s Zhongding was teaming up with them to build a huge plant with potential to produce up to 400,000 engines. All sounded like a bright future; then no news for a year. Is that because they are too busy or because they folded?