AD #1923 – Civic Hatchback Details Revealed, Sierra Club Slams EV Marketing, Titan Gets 100,000-Mile Warranty

August 15th, 2016 at 11:47am

Runtime: 6:56

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- No Credit For You!
- Aussies Approve 5.9GHz for V2V
- Civic Hatchback Details
- Sierra Club Slams EV Marketing
- Titan Gets 100,000-Mile Warranty
- Tesla Removes Autopilot References

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24 Comments to “AD #1923 – Civic Hatchback Details Revealed, Sierra Club Slams EV Marketing, Titan Gets 100,000-Mile Warranty”

  1. Tuck&Roll Says:

    So, now it’s the sales pitch? Face it, EV sales are down and will continue to stay there as long as the poor electric technology continues. This automotive technology failed in the first part of the 20th, for good reasons. And even though the technology is light years ahead it continues to not be accepted by the public. The infrastructure is not there, and whipping VW to provide it will not put Humpty Dumpty back together again. The tech break through has not been found. Find another reason sales are poor besides unleashing crazed salespersons on the car buyer.

  2. Bob Wilson Says:

    Having test driven a Leaf in Huntsville, it was pretty evident they are ‘reluctant’ advocates. In fact, I’d visited the BMW dealer and Toyota and realized the first is mostly not informed and Toyota has no clue. Toyota will sell a Prius but not if they can get you into one of their gas-only cars.

    So how do I share driving 352 miles in one week using ‘free’ chargers? It is the functional equivalent to not buying groceries and eating just their ‘free’ samples. Smart shopping centers and vendors realized that us well compensated EV owners are the types of customers they like to have … so the free chargers make sense.

    Bob Wilson

  3. GM Veteran Says:

    Looking at the new Civic Hatchback and Coupe, it appears that Honda, (and Toyota with their garish new Prius), are employing big fans of the Transformers movies in their styling departments.

    Its interesting to see the correlation between the Sierra Club’s rankings of best and worst EV marketers, and the length of time the brands have been in the EV game. The longer they have been selling EV’s, the better they are at it.

  4. Bob Wilson Says:

    #1 – I agree the EV only does not make sense. But the plug-in hybrids are all over the map in EV-vs-gas operation. In my case, I bought an end-of-lease car with the greatest EV-to-gas range and never looked back.

    In about two weeks, my wife and her dogs will ride 700 miles … about 25 miles EV and 675 miles on gas. It will also mean we can sell our last Prius.

    Around town, the BMW i3 gets $2.50/100 miles while the Prius gets $3.50/100 miles. On the highway, the Prius wins but we don’t make our living on the highway.

    Bob Wilson

  5. Buzzerd Says:

    The Chevrolet dealer here is not a Volt dealer, the investment necessary to become an approved dealer wasn’t worth it to them.
    You would think if GM wanted to sell more of these cars they would make it easier or at least more financially attractive to the dealers.

  6. Buzzerd Says:

    anyone watch John Oliver’s show on the sub prime auto loans? Interesting, you can find it on Youtube.

  7. Lisk Says:

    I hope the Civic hatchback can make an impact in the American market. It would be great to see the car do well, thus encouraging other manufacturers to join in. The styling isn’t hatchback-ish and this may be the only reason it succeeds. The downside is the Civic HB won’t be as stiff as a coupe or sedan, thereby not as sporting. I fear this will once again be another failed hatchback experiment. Too bad.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It’s great to see a Civic hatch return to the U.S. It may be on my shopping list when the time comes to replace my Prius. It has the hatchback versatility I like, and with the number of miles I drive the Prius, the operating cost wouldn’t be a major thing.

    As far as plug-in hybrids, so far, there is no place to plug them in where I spend 2/3 of the year in Florida. If that changes, I’d certainly consider one.

    #4 @Bob Wilson, let us know how your i3 does on you road trip, both mpg, and general impressions. I always wrote off the i3 REx as a pure EV, with a limp-home mode, but it sounds like it may be much better than that on gas. You can inform us.

  9. gary susie Says:

    So what you are saying if i wait awhile till car sales drop i can get a better deal o a new one. How long do you think it will be before sales slow?

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I just sat in a new pickup for the first time, my friends extended cab, 2wd F-150. What is with the “lift kit” suspension on a basic 2wd truck? My friend is in reasonable physical condition, but put “steps” on the truck, because it is so much higher, and harder to get into than the 2001 Silverado it replaced.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 That is, I sat in a new pickup for the first time “in a few years.”

  12. BobD Says:

    Chevy is offering a Cruze hatchback in 2017, although I’m not overly impressed with the styling (back end chopped too much). With that said, it may still attract some buyers who were looking for a CUV such as the Trax. I have a 2016 Cruze sedan and it is a very good ride with very good fuel economy.

  13. Steve W Says:

    The reasons for poor EV sales should be obvious. 1) Except for Tesla they are too ugly to be seen in 2) You can’t venture far from home and come back without a recharge which at the very least for a partial charge would take 30 minutes and that’s assuming you can find a charging station!

  14. Brett Says:

    #13
    I could drive the crummiest EV (the Mitsubishi) for a week to work and home on a single charge.

    The new Civic hatch looks like a dog squatting to defecate. I prefer the chopped off back of the new Cruze hatchback, personally.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 Between the Cruze and Civic hatch, and Prius liftback, how long is the floor with the back seat folded down? OK, maybe most potential buyers don’t care.

  16. W L Simpson Says:

    Ev’s as a whole are too cluttered & complicated.
    Too many batts , too much weight . Some are downright ugly , trying to say look at me! I’m an EV !
    again , again & again—motor in or at every wheel , minimal batts, constant duty linear gen , NO plugin! KISS KISS KISS !
    Anybody wanna buy my final project ? 80 MGB resto-mod
    Started learning the trade at age 15–70 years ago !

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Pure EV’s are as simple as cars get, mechanically, with a one-speed transmission with no clutches, bands, torque converter, etc. The electronics are fairly complex, but even more complex hybrids, like Prius, have proven the electronics to be very reliable.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16 Do you have a description of your MG, and photos you can link?

  19. C-Tech Says:

    On the credit issue with SwapLease is this more an issue with SwapLease’s customer base or the overall market?

  20. Frank Nelson Says:

    #7 Lisk, the hatchback is going to be the basis for the Honda Civic Type R which will be out in 2017. It’s allegedly going to have north of 300 hp. This hatchback must have some structural integrity if they will use it for this type of car. Extra gusseting, more high strength steel, more adhesives, etc.

  21. Roger T Says:

    I live 20 miles from the office, and my Volt gets me there and back on a charge. Since I bought my Volt a charging station has been made available at work – 1/2 off on my charge bills. I’m now worried the gas in my tank will go bad, it’s been 5 months since I last refueled.

  22. Chuck Grenci Says:

    #21 Roger

    Are you using a gasoline stabilizer; it would be a good idea if you did (especially with E-10 fuels). I believe your Volt will start (on its own) while you have the ignition on, periodically, to keep fresh fuel circulated in the engine.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    From my experience, the issue of gas “going bad” seems highly exaggerated. For years, I have been burning only about 1/2 tank of gas a year in my van, and parking it for 7 months without running it at all. I always top off the gas before parking it in the fall, but use no stabilizer. In the spring, I re-connect the battery, and it starts right up.

  24. W L Simpson Says:

    Kit –putting it on Ebay tomorrow ,installed pics today textured finish BRGreen