AD #2010 – FCA Partners with Waymo, Karma to Build the Atlantic, Ford GT Rolling Off the Line

December 19th, 2016 at 11:42am

Runtime: 6:31

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- EU Wants Faster Dumping Response
- Karma to Build the Atlantic
- Waymo Gets OEM As a Supplier
- California Picks Fight with Uber
- Chevy Teases New Traverse
- Ford GT Rolling Off the Line
- Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi to Share EV Costs

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20 Comments to “AD #2010 – FCA Partners with Waymo, Karma to Build the Atlantic, Ford GT Rolling Off the Line”

  1. Lex Says:

    I really enjoyed the last AAH #359 – “Pacifica Goes Electric”. When will FCA put this EV technology into other vehicles? I have been advocating this type of plug-in-hybrid technology for sometime now. My only questions is why did FCA need to modify the internal parts of the PentaStar 3.6 Litre V6 for this version of the Pacifica?

  2. Drew Says:

    I wonder why the Atlantic has 2 panes of glass in each rear quarter panel. It looks like they are trying to accommodate the forward pane to retract -or – they are designing in commonality with a 4-door variant.

  3. Barry T Says:

    Is it just me or does that Fisker 2 door look like the old four-door with the rear doors welded shut? Doesn’t appeal to me but I wish them well

  4. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Minus the orange, that Chinese crossover doesn’t look too bad; now if China is ‘dumping’ then Europe needs to come down on them full force.

    The GT still looks fabulous, though with a continued production and multiple model introductions, they are diluting the exclusivity that they once commanded.

    The new Traverse needs to be good (very good); the silhouette is intriguing, and since the old model is starting to get a little long in the tooth, should be welcomed by fans of the ‘bow-tie’.

  5. MJB Says:

    General question regarding autonomous vehicles:

    Is it too early to know yet just how much of the bulk we’re currently seeing atop of these test vehicles will be native to the final packages on production vehicles to come? Because, aside from looking quite odd, I’m imagining a few scenarios where that contraption would need to be engineered around:

    - Winter. I see enough car owners who are too lazy to brush the snow off the hoods and roof tops of their cars now. So even if the final variant of these mechanisms is encapsulated in some clear, monolithic plastic casing, good luck getting people to ‘do right’ and brush the snow off of it every morning before leaving for work, and every evening leaving for home.

    - Roof-Mounted Bike Racks, Canoes, Kayaks, & Such. Need I say more?

    I’m sure viable solutions will abound. We’re an inventive bunch. But it’ll be interesting to see how these things are worked around once all the dust settles.

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #1 The engine in the Pacifica hybrid would, presumably, use Atkinson cycle tuning to maximize fuel economy in the hybrid. That means different cam timing, higher geometric compression ratio, and probably other changes from the standard engine.

    I assume that the new Traverse will be similar to the new Acadia, and will be lighter, and somewhat smaller than the old one. The main weakness of the outgoing one is that it is too big and heavy, for the amount of room it has.

  7. Nathan Friedland Says:

    How does the police pull over a fully autonomous vehicle when the people in the car have no steering wheel, gas pedal or brake pedal?

  8. Jonathan Says:

    I’f the EU doesn’t enforce a 35 percent tariff and a requirement for joint venture with a European company to sell cars in Europe they are on the road to extinction.

    Move fast or be destroyed by the Chinese tidal wave..


  9. MJB Says:


    You had me for a second there. But then I realized, Why would the police ever have reason to pull over an autonomous car? Surely not for breaking traffic laws. It’s autonomous…

    Now, (not saying they should, but) if drug traffickers are smart, they’ll start sending their shipments with autonomous cars – knowing they’ll never be pulled over. ;)

  10. Drew Says:

    If the new Traverse is to have more 3rd row leg room, and that silhouette looks quite long, I believe the new model will be much bigger than the GMC Acadia… perhaps bigger than than the present Traverse, but similar or lighter in weight.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 Yeah, probably a stretch version of the Acadia.

  12. Lisk Says:

    From the interior shots I’ve seen of autonomous cars in motion, I noticed a lot of wheel movement as the car travels down the road, more so at low speeds than high. I would imagine that’s due to the purely digital controls being used. It reminds me of the fly by wire systems used on aircraft where the elevator and ailerons are constantly moving as the plane travels along.
    Wouldn’t this kind of system be harder to control on icy roads where small but quick continual corrections are made, rather than an “experienced” human analog at the wheel?

    Good to see the Ford GT coming off the line. I’m not a great fan of the car because I don’t think it has earned a pedigree to charge $400,000 for the car. Makes the NSX look like a bargain and a Corvette Z06 look like you can pick one up at the buy here – pay here lot.

  13. merv Says:

    nice to see Raj Nair driving the first GT off the line,and as a Canadian,it’s nice to have the car done here

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’m still amazed at how much press the Ford GT is getting, considering the low volume, and unafforable price for most of us. It looks like Ford is getting their money’s worth in publicity. A new Ferrari doesn’t get that much attention, even with twice as many cylinders as the Ford.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    When I hear about a car called Atlantic, I think of this one, not a Fisker:

    That Atlantic is my favorite concept car of all time.

  16. John Humm Says:

    Isn’t it interesting that the first new Ford GT is just now rolling off the assembly line, though the LeMans organizers allowed it to run – and win – the 2016 24 Hrs in its class. What ever happened to homologation?

  17. GM Veteran Says:

    The Fisker Atlantic show car was a four door sedan, midsized as opposed to the full size Fisker Karma. Fisker also showed a concept for a two door, retractable hardtop convertible called the Sunset. It is a very beautiful car. All are easy to find on Google Images.

  18. GM Veteran Says:

    Its hard to imagine that Karma is going to build a midsize two door production car. The volume would be so low that it doesn’t make good business sense for a small volume manufacturer like Karma. If you look carefully at the image in today’s report, you can see the cut line for the back door at the fender. The door handle is integrated into the top, rear corner of the door at the pillar.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 It seems that, these days, the only companies that can build production mid-size 2 door cars, are those that are able to charge escalated prices because of reputation, like M-B and BMW.

  20. Roger T Says:

    In the teaser photo, the new traverse looks like a Toyota Sienna.