AD #2026 – Ford Updates the Mustang, Top Selling Small CUVs in 2016, Hands-Off Road Trip of the Future

January 18th, 2017 at 11:53am

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- Ford Mustang Updates
- EPA Gives BMW Green Light for Diesels
- MINI Introduces New Countryman
- Chevy Bolt On Sale Nationwide in September
- Top Selling Small CUVs in 2016
- Hands-Off Road Trip of the Future

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18 Comments to “AD #2026 – Ford Updates the Mustang, Top Selling Small CUVs in 2016, Hands-Off Road Trip of the Future”

  1. BobD Says:

    In the small CUV list, if you add the Trax and Encore together (basically the same vehicle), that is 151,000 vehicles on the same platform, moving it to the top of the list. Are there others in the list that share the same platform?

  2. XA351GT Says:

    Well I contributed to the Crosstrek sales. My wife and I bought one for her daily driver in Feb. Great car she loves it. Just the right size for what we wanted and needed. We visit the Philly Auto show every year and since 2012 or 2013 every time we went she always kept going back to it as the one she liked best. So when we were finally ready to buy we knew exactly what she wanted and everything she wanted on it.

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    That seems strange that they would quit putting the V-6 in Mustang. That is/was the best engine for people who just want a fairly sporty car with decent performance, but who don’t feel the need for the V-8.

    Also, surprising to me, is that the Patriot is the best selling small crossover, and Compass is 4th best. It’s surprising, because those two are almost universally considered worst-in-class, or nearly so, whether you ask CR, or enthusiast oriented reviews. I guess the Jeep name has a lot of value, and Patriot and Compass are relatively cheap to buy.

  4. XA351GT Says:

    BobD the same argument is made every year about the Chevy/GMC trucks. It is based on model not platform My guess is all 3 of the Jeeps are on the same platform or will soon be.

  5. Brett Says:

    “The Smocky Mountains”???

  6. buzzerd Says:

    We liked the Crosstrek when we were shopping, thought the only it needed was more HP, interior was a little blah at the time also. Bought something else.

  7. Ron Paris Says:

    I really don’t understand the logic of the “small CUV” list as it mixes B and C segment vehicles in which case the Mazda CX-5 should be listed with sales of around 100K.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I like the Crosstrek, for that type of vehicle, but I like the similar Impreza hatch much better. It is basically the same thing, but without the lift kit and body cladding, so it would handle better, and get a little better mpg.

  9. Roger tocchetto Says:

    Wow I’m vso eu surprised to see Jeep Patriot at the top. It is a roomy, yet antiquated and slow vehicle, pretty rough around the edges. I would have never thought.
    The other Jeep that surprised me in the list was the compass, yet I’m not sure if the 2017 model is out yet, that vesion looks much better.

  10. Albemarle Says:

    We have both a Crosstrek & a Forester. Love them both, mainly for their all wheel drive. Living where we do, with 5 m of snow annually, you can really tell there is a difference between drive systems. Eyesight also works better in bad snow than radar as it doesn’t get covered.

    On the Mustang introduction, I think they wanted to introduce the car at a quieter time after the other introductions so they would get better media coverage. I think it worked. The Mustang has gotten good coverage without the me-too 20 car at a time introduction.

  11. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Maybe the new Mustang is a better car but still would rate the refresh as mild. The four and the eight are both performance-type engines so maybe that is why a third (the V-6) was just good business sense to drop.

    I’m with Kit that it seems the Patriot and Compass had earned pretty mediocre ratings; maybe they lowered the price and got sales (from that).

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Mustang’s dropping the six, should help sell more Camaros.

  13. Bobby T Says:

    Aren’t a lot of Patriot and Compass sales to rental fleets?

  14. Dwagner1239 Says:

    The Patriot and Compass are probably moving because of the $99 leases. Less than a Starbucks a day.

    Not in the market for a Mustang, but wouldn’t ever consider a 4 if I was, or are they thinking of the extreme aftermarket (like the 900 hp EVOs on YouTube) outfits doing modifications? How about some tech to brag about, like a modified 2.7L EcoBoost from the Edge or F series? Alfa is claiming 505 hp from a 2.9L V-6, so 400 should be easy.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The four in the Mustang was an option over the six, but most reviewers seemed to like the six better. It’s hard to figure why they are dropping the six.

    The 2.7 turbo would work well in a Mustang, but what would be the point? In an F-150, the 2.7 performs about the same, and gets about the same real world mpg as the simpler V8. If boosted to get 450 hp, it would perform impressively, but would need the highest octane premium you could find.

  16. Ukendoit Says:

    #1) The Jeep Compass and Patriot are on the same platform too, so they would remain at the top of the list. I have seen many of them and Renegades around, but I wouldn’t have guessed them either. I think everyone is right that the cheap price and Jeep name helped the Compatriot numbers. They keep saying they are going to drop the Patriot, but I doubt they will while its at #1. I do know 2 family members with Patriots and they are happy with them and had no problems.

  17. John McElroy Says:

    #5. Brett, congrats eagle-eye. Seems like you’re the only one who noticed that Valeo video referred to the Smocky Mountains, not the Smoky Mountains.

  18. Chris Says:

    If Ford needs someone to do a long term test of the 2018 4 cylinder Mustang, in a cold coastal Canadian climate I would happily volunteer!