AD #2090 – Shanghai Auto Show Reveals, Honda to Make Short Wheelbase Pilot, Why Investor is Going After GM

April 18th, 2017 at 11:36am

Runtime: 6:53

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- Mercedes Concept A Sedan Hints at Future Style
- I.D. Crozz is VWs First EV Crossover
- AAA Study Says Americans Want EVs
- Lincoln Offers Lessees Chauffeur Service
- Honda to Make Short Wheelbase Pilot
- Why Investor is Going After GM

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21 Comments to “AD #2090 – Shanghai Auto Show Reveals, Honda to Make Short Wheelbase Pilot, Why Investor is Going After GM”

  1. David Sprowl Says:

    AAA study goes to show how bad studies are conducted and displyed. Real world results are not coming close to this studies results. As to MB’s design, save for the “trick” head lights looks like a modified copy of a Ford Fusion.

  2. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Why would AAA even bother with this study? As was pointed out,just look at the sales figures = study done.

    MB and their headlights: looks like they are going psycho-delic.Must be for the rich hippies…

  3. David Sprowl Says:

    Hail Mary. Maybe. I doubt this deal will happen. What it looks like is a Ford set up where one class gets better benefits ovef the other. Yea it is not the best idea

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Maybe the people who said they would buy an EV in the survey don’t know how much they cost, how much range they have, or that you need a place to plug them in.

    As far as hybrids, as they become available in more market segments, sales will increase dramatically, since, like a regular car, you just put gas in it and drive, only it gets much better mpg. Now, if you want a jerky shifting alternative to a Prius, Hyundai will sell you one. There are still very few mass market hybrid CUV’s, though.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I see a market for the shorter Pilot, those who want a short wheelbase minivan, but without the convenience of sliding doors. If they’d build it with sliding doors, it would be great. Yeah, that’s just me.

  6. Bradley Says:

    I think the news story about the Honda Pilot is incorrect. Honda will be making a CRV based truck like the Ridgeline.

    Yes. I am trying to start rumors. A truck based CRV would get a lot more attention than a shorter Pilot.

  7. Steve Henderson Says:

    Hey Sean I like the lines of the Mercedes. As for the headlights….Just so they work when they are supposed to. The only thing I wish Mercedes would change would be their trademark symbol on the grill. And no I don’t own one.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I like the lines of the Mercedes, but don’t like the vertical bars in the grill.

    If this car ends up replacing the CLA, it will, hopefully, be a better car. The CLA does not have many Benz attributes, except price, though it is attractive.

  9. Drew Says:

    1. MB has lost their way in terms of styling. The tail ends from the C-pillar aft are droopy disasters. The front end are fine. But I suspect the concept headlamps will have a challenge getting through the maze called FMVSS 108… and I suspect it’ll be distracting.
    2.Research neophytes like AAA rarely tell respondents about the price/cost of the alternatives. So, on an unconstrained basis, I’m sure they got got those Pollyanna results.

  10. Albemarle Says:

    The only reason to buy hybrid is to save on gas. At today’s gas prices, and the premium of hybrids, it’s a tough sell and always will be at these economics.
    I think the EV is different. I expect as more models get introduced, and the 200 mile range becomes common, they will grow in popularity because the range fits the need.
    Home charging is key. I have no interest in an EV if we have to find and use public charging, and I believe most people agree. Gas stations just aren’t that inconvenient. We have a regular car for longer trips.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 I like one hybrid car, Prius, for more than the gas mileage. I like the utility of the liftback, and tbe smooth, impossible-to-abuse powertrain. Also, some gadgets seem to “trickle down” to Prius, before they become standard on other cars in their price range. A base 2017 Prius has adaptive cruise control. I could be wrong, but that is probably rare in $25K cars.

    If they sold a non-hybrid Prius, with a manual transmission, for $5K less, I might have bought one.

  12. Len Simpson Says:

    This type will eventually rule

  13. Steve Says:

    Maybe the public is waiting for an EV which is clearly more cost effective than a gasoline powered car.

  14. Ziggy Says:

    $30 an hour seems like a bargain if she looks as good or better than the model in the commercial and has the right skill sets from that special training.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    12 It will be a gas hog on tbe highway, compared to other hybrids. We should soon get confirmation of that. When electric motors and generators are 98% efficient, series hybrids will be competitive. Tbat is unlimely to ever happen.

  16. Lex Says:

    I believe the short wheelbase Honda pilot is great news. The new 2017 Honda CRV is terribly under powered with the smaller turbo charged engines in the higher trim levels. You can only get the non-turbo in the LX base model. This was very bad planning on Honda’s part. A shorter Pilot will only eat into Acura RDX sales.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The 1.5 turbo in the upper trim CR-V’s makes more power than tbe NA 2.4 in the base vehicle, and performs accordingly. It has competitive performance in the class.

    If you want something wider, heavier, and thirstier, the short Pilot might be your thing. I’d expect the V-6 Pilot to tow much better than tbe CR-V.

  18. Roger T Says:

    People like the thought of owning an electric or hybrid car but the choices out there are not appealing enough (Bolt), or not affordable (Tesla), and just not enough practical models to choose from. I am super curious to see how the Pacifica plug in sells, that would tell us whether this AAA study has any merit.
    The Mercedes headlight looks silly to me, these are too expensive of items nowadays, imagine with fancy UV coloring, doesn’t add much value to me. Maybe I’m just getting old.

  19. David Sprowl Says:

    If the string battery proves out, electrics have a fighting chance

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 Bolt and Tesla also have a problem of not being available, even if you want on. You have to go to a boutique in a big city mall to buy a Tesla, and Bolt is sold only in a handful of states, so far, at least.

  21. Daniel Busch Says:

    WOW Mercedes Benz is lusting after Buicks in their Concept A Sedan. Might be a future cost saving move to play off of Buick ads, and I heard that Buicks sell well in China – BRILLIANT!