AD #2149 – Could Ford Buy Lucid Motors for Lincoln? VW to Undercut Bolt & Model 3 Price, 2018 Hyundai Sonata Updates

July 18th, 2017 at 11:51am

Runtime: 8:38

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- Could Ford Buy Lucid Motors?
- GM Extends Bolt Plant Shutdown
- VW I.D. to Undercut Bolt & Model 3 Price
- Scania Tests Autonomous Platooning
- Ford Grooming Next Head of Design?
- Drug Dealers Stuff Fusions with Weed
- 2018 Hyundai Sonata Updates

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19 Comments to “AD #2149 – Could Ford Buy Lucid Motors for Lincoln? VW to Undercut Bolt & Model 3 Price, 2018 Hyundai Sonata Updates”

  1. David Sprowl Says:

    With GM halting production of the Bolt, Kinda hard to imagine VW will have any better luck even at 8K less in starting price. Buyers whose only car is electric will be far and few in the US until infrastructure can catch up.

  2. MJB Says:

    Sean, I was completely unaware that there were ANY cars shipping without spare tires. In these cases are mfrs simply leaving the option of obtaining a spare (and loading it into the trunk) up to the buyer?

  3. Sean McElroy Says:

    @MJB – I think for every vehicle that does not offer a spare tire, there is a way to get it, a jack and lug wrench. I’m just not sure if it’s wrapped into a separate option. Most that don’t offer a spare have at least a fix-a-flat bottle and most have a cheap air compressor, sometimes the two are combined.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    There is a very simple way that GM could sell more Bolts, sell them at more than a handful of locations. They don’t sell them in Indiana or Florida, so I suspect there are many other states where they don’t offer them for sale.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2, 3 Also, a number of cars come with run flat tires, and no fix-a-flat, compressor, etc. Among them are Corvettes, and many BMW’s.

  6. JWH Says:

    #4 – Kit – I believe Bolts are not sold in Florida & Indiana just to make sure Kit can’t get one. I found one report “” that states Florida in July & all states by September. It does have caveat that timing can change.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #6 I wouldn’t buy one, because I would have no place to plug it in at my condo in Florida. I know people in the area, having houses with attached garages, who might buy them. It looks like we should soon find out how they sell in Florida.

  8. BobD Says:

    GM’s original announcement was the Bolt would be available in all states by September, but that has been moved up to August, due to slower than expected sales in the early states. GM’s explanation of the staggered roll out was due to special service training for the dealer who are allowed to sell Bolts, and that the training was ahead of schedule. Right!

    The less than enthusiastic sales volume does show that GM was good at forecasting the demand of 30-40k EVs per year. It will be interesting to see if all of the Tesla Model 3 pre-orders turn into actual units sold. It is pretty easy to put down a refundable $1000 on the speculation that you might be able to flip the car if there is a large demand. Putting down another $30k-35k to buy the car is a different matter.

  9. Chuck Grenci Says:

    You could probably slap a Lincoln badge on that Lucid Motors vehicle and you might think it came from Ford from the start (catty and slit styled front/back). And Sean’s comment that it would be more economical to buy Lucid than to create an in-house electric seems spot-on as well. But put me down, as a pass, as to whether I would purchase same.

    I wondering whether GM’s slow launch of the Bolt is somewhat because Tesla has ‘snatched up’ so many of the ‘EV Elite’ with the promise of the “3″. Personally I think the Bolt is superior but Tesla marketing is quite convincing. Put me down, as a pass, for a Tesla (but I’m intrigued by the Bolt).

  10. Deacon Cliff Says:

    More and more high end vehicles ride on run flat tires. I just replaced the run flats on my 2104 CTS and they weren’t much more expensive than non-run flats.

  11. BobD Says:

    #2 – My first-generation Cruze Eco did not have a spare. As a result, the floor panel/carpet in the trunk was a difference design with part of the tire tub designed to store the inflator/compressor and the rest of the area was a square cargo depression (without a cover – but was nice to keep your groceries from rolling around). If you were to buy a tire and jack later, you would have needed to also order the other trunk floor panel if you wanted your mini-spare to fit below the floor level.

  12. Barry Rector Says:

    If you learn more about the vehicles that carried the “extra equipment” from Mexico, would you pass the info along? Curious as to how all this happened that new cars became “mules” for drugs!

  13. Sean McElroy Says:

    @Barry – There are a number of stories out there right now about the “extra equipment” in the Fusions. But I’ve made a note for myself, if I see an article how it got in there I will pass it along.

  14. Mac Says:

    Very disappointed to see Hyundai decontenting the Sonata Limited Ultimate. Eliminated the panoramic moonroof and the heated rear seats. I have a 2016, and these are two of my favorite features the car has. Not sure I’d replace it with another Sonata if these changes remain in effect.

  15. Albemarle Says:

    No idea how the Bolt would sell in Canada because GM has allocated so few. One per dealer with no opportunity to reorder is typical.
    People are so frustrated that they aren’t available they are waiting for the new Leaf. It’s too bad because we love our Bolt. But if we were in the market right now, there is none available in Ontario. And in Canada there is no federal rebate, just provincial so you would give up $14,000 if not bought in Ontario. I don’t need an ev that badly.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 Maybe they de-contented the Sonata to try to sell more Geneses, or maybe Azeras.

  17. omegatalon Says:

    Chevrolet Bolt EV sales are slow despite all the protesters who bashed Donald Trump for withdrawing the United States from the Paris Climate Accord as Sandy Munro said last week on AutolineTV After Hours #385, Americans are slow to adopting to electric vehicles because the price of gas is so cheap as it’s under $2.50 in New York City whereas in Europe like London, England where the price of gas sells for almost $6.00, it might be easier to convince someone to buy an EV instead of gas or diesel vehicle.

  18. veh Says:

    #17: To that point, I’d say post #15 has the right idea. Gas is not cheap in Canada–we were in Canada a couple of weeks ago and fuel was a little more than a dollar (CND) a liter. It would seem to make sense to allocate a few more of them north of the border. Canada historically has been more of a small car market than the US in any case.

  19. Ukendoit Says:

    Re: the drug mule vehicles; back in the 90s in Missouri, a friend and I used to frequent the Chrysler dealership in a rural area where our friend worked. We would often test drive the vehicles and check out the new inventory. My friend was much more versed in matters of ganja. We raised the truck bed cover of a Dakota and he swore it had a strong scent of cannabis. I couldn’t tell if it was a pot smell or just the plastic bedliner off-gassing, but he was convinced someone had transported a large payload hidden in that covered Dakota bed.