AD #2154 – U.S. Looking Into German Collusion, Mazda Introduces New 3-Row SUV, GM’s Q2 Earnings Not Spectacular

July 25th, 2017 at 11:57am

Runtime: 6:28

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- U.S. DoJ Looking Into German Collusion
- VW CEO Criticizes Porsche Labor Chief
- 2018 Mustang Gets Power Boost
- Mazda Introduces CX-8 in Japan
- Some FCA Dealers Fight Demon MSRP
- GM’s Q2 Earnings Not Spectacular

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17 Comments to “AD #2154 – U.S. Looking Into German Collusion, Mazda Introduces New 3-Row SUV, GM’s Q2 Earnings Not Spectacular”

  1. BobD Says:

    Auctioning off the right to buy at MSRP… This also seems like a loophole to avoid paying sales tax on the extra dollars above MSRP. I’m sure some state Dept of Revenues will be interested in investigating this too.

  2. Bradley Says:

    The new Mustangs look great. I am not a pony car fan, but for the first time in my life I can say that.

    It would be interesting if the walls could talk at Ford. As nearly 20 years ago the 4.6liter engine replaced the 5.0liter. EPA regulations was stated back then as the reason. Now Ford is apparently meeting stricter regulations and producing even more power out of their V8s. Is this simply reflective of the industry across the board? Or is this evidence Ford is a very different company than 20 years ago?

  3. Todd T Says:

    Mueller responded by saying “The comments of Uwe Hueck are anything but helpful. The supervisory board certainly needs no lecturing on how it has to do its job.”

    And why is that? Because it has done such and exemplary job? Where the hell is fiduciary duty?

  4. Buzzerd Says:

    if Mueller was correct that the board knew what they were doing an argument could be made – then why are they balls deep in trouble?

  5. G.A.Branigan Says:

    @ Bradley: I would say it’s reflective across the board.Look at the power of V6′s that are NA. Back in the late 50′s and 60′s,these are muscle car numbers.And for the most part,done on reg pump gas.Whoda thunk it…

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #2. Power is increasing everywhere. Chevy pushrod V8′s have steadily increased in power over the years too, along with other engine configurations. Manufacturers continue to improve fuel systems, head design, etc., increasing power and efficiency, even as the engines get cleaner.

  7. Lisk Says:

    It looked like Ford’s 302 or (5.0) reached their epoch in 1969-70 with the Boss 302. 290hp was the quoted gross hp number, achieved with tunnel port heads, a huge carb, and nearly straight exhaust. While the stated hp number was nowhere the actual power peak, it would be the highest for a quite while. 1976 witnessed the worst Ford had to offer, with only 129hp on tap.

    Today’s 5.0L engines are incredible, full of exotic features that used to be reserved for the Italian exotics and race cars. They can idle in traffic all day and wake up instantly. I know power has been creeping up over the years but with 460 net hp on tap, the 2018 5.0L is nothing but amazing.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Will Ford start putting N/A V6′s in Mustangs again? They should. That would probably be the best engine for most people, as the V6 is in the Camaro.

  9. Chuck Grenci Says:

    There is a big difference between collusion and cooperation. I wonder, specifically, who was harmed, helped or trod upon. If involving diesels, the automakers side-stepped environmental protocol and hid it, then I can see collusion. If the automakers got together to collaborate on an item, beneficial to all participants, eliminating redundancies and maybe getting the best product for the best price and best environmental outcome and making it more timely, then that is cooperation……….and should be lauded. The ‘piling-on’, of the regulating agencies, makes them look like they are looking for the cash (fines).

  10. John McElroy Says:

    The fact that Opel and Ford of Germany were excluded from these meetings shows that it was collusion. They weren’t part of the “club.”

    Mueller should have never been given the top job at VW. Remember, he’s the guy who told reporters at NAIAS that VW never broke any law or did anything wrong with its diesel emissions. He’s $22 billion wrong so far, with the total sure to go higher.

  11. Albemarle Says:

    So some manufacturers cheated on emissions. So each country they ever sold to gets to fine them, then jail the executives, then sue them corporately and personally in civil court, then figure out if they ever talked to each other and charge them with collusion. What’s next?

    This is an enormous overreaction. If we do this about emission cheating, why haven’t we hung and quartered the Takata boys? Surely safety ranks higher than pollution. And if 1/4 of the effort spent to find fault with the diesel scandal was spent on airbags, I bet we’d have a long list of executives who knew stuff but kept quiet except amongst themselves.

  12. rick bradner Says:

    Did anyone else notice the historical references in the dash “capture” of the new Mustang?
    1964.5 mls – first year of production
    289 mls – E – size of first v8s…

  13. G.A.Branigan Says:

    @ # 12: I won’t swear to it,but I think the first V8′s offered in the 64 1/5 Mustang were 260′s.I had a 65 1/5 K model with a 289 hipo.That was rated at 271 hp if I remember it right.In reality,I think it was more like 310,or 315 at the crank.

  14. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Make that 64 1/2 and 65 1/2.Duhhhh.It’s one of those days I reckon ;{>

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 The number of premature deaths from the NOx emissions are hard to quantify, but they exist. Thousands of people have had non-lethal health issues from the NOx. The Takata airbags have been linked to 11 deaths in the U.S., but I haven’t seen global numbers. Still, the emissions cheating has likely caused a lot more harm than the airbags.

  16. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I looked this up at Rockauto (cause I thought that the first Mustangs only had the 6 and 260-8); turns out they offered four engines, two six’s, 2.8 (170), 3.3 (200) and two eight’s, 4.3 (260), 4.7 (289).

  17. Chuck Grenci Says:

    adding a post script to #16: for the 1964 model Mustang.