AD #2179 – Aston Martin to Electrify Entire Lineup, EV Programs Impacting Low Volume Vehicles, Robo Cars Deliver Pizza

August 29th, 2017 at 11:46am

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- Renault-Nissan Partners w/ Dongfeng on EVs
- China to Set New EV Quotas
- Aston Martin Going Electric
- BMW i3 Refreshed, Gets Sport Model
- EV Programs Impacting Low Volume Vehicles
- Ford Robo Cars Delivering Domino’s Pizza

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13 Comments to “AD #2179 – Aston Martin to Electrify Entire Lineup, EV Programs Impacting Low Volume Vehicles, Robo Cars Deliver Pizza”

  1. Don B. Says:

    I hope Domino’s makes more than one delivery with that autonomous car, it would be a waste of resources and energy if they didn’t.

  2. BobD Says:

    The pizza experiment seems more like a publicity stunt than actual research. The article says the vehicle is actually “manually” driven, rather than autonomous driven while on the road. It also suggest the primary focus on the experiment is to judge if customers are okay with having to go outside to pick up their pizza, rather than delivered to the door. This has nothing to do with autonomy. So basically, Domino is seeing if they can get away with inconveniencing their customers to eliminate a driver.

  3. Lambo2015 Says:

    Sean, Is Ford and Renault-Nissan partnering with the likes of Zotye and Dongfeng because those companies offer some advantage in the electrification of vehicles, or is this to satisfy Chinese government requirements for doing business there?

    My guess is they (anyone outside China) needs a Chinese partner and will teach, train and share technology with these companies until they are capable of going it alone. At which point we will be pushed out and undercut. Which at that point we should require Chinese cars to have a US partner and certain percentage of labor content to be sold here in the states but we all know that wont happen.

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    I think its great that Dominos is working with Ford to gage the acceptance/interest in autonomous pizza delivery. Even if its not really fully autonomous.
    It will be one of those crazy trivia questions in 2030 when Autonomy is a reality and they ask, “When was the first autonomous pizza delivered”? and the answer will be, way back in 2017 but not really.

    Domino’s should just skip right to using Drone delivery.

  5. Chuck Grenci Says:

    If the Domino’s store has to purchase these autonomous cars, they probably won’t be able to get away with just one (in a busy location), so I wonder how much more that pizza is going to cost when the price of a pizza delivery specific vehicle is added to the equation.

  6. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Unless you already own an i3 I think you are going to be hard-pressed to be able to see/know the difference between current and refreshed. And I don’t think that the refresh is going to boost sales any either.

  7. MJB Says:

    So, does this mean we no longer need to tip the delivery guy?

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    What keeps the first pizza customer from taking more pizza than he/she ordered? Does the vehicle have individual compartments for each phone number?

  9. Steve W Says:

    BMW has can’t fooled me! The car looks just like the old one to me!

  10. Sean McElroy Says:

    @Lambo2015 – I don’t think Ford and Renault-Nissan are partnering with Chinese companies on EVs because they “offer some advantage in the electrification of vehicles.” Nor do I think it’s solely to satisfy the Chinese government. I think it’s got to do with grabbing more market share in the fastest growing market in the world. Foreign OEMs need to form a joint venture with a Chinese OEM to sell vehicles in the country. They are limited to two joint ventures. But with the push to electrification in China, the government is allowing a third joint venture as long as it has a new name and only produces electric and plug-in (I think plug-ins are included) vehicles. So, now we’re seeing automakers, like Ford and Renault-Nissan forming new companies to make EVs.

  11. Lambo2015 Says:

    Thanks Sean, However if the foreign manufacturers have nothing to gain (technology wise) by partnering I doubt they would do it simply for market share either. Each manufacturer is jockeying for position that will allow them to conduct business within the constraints laid out by the Chinese Government. If those requirements were not part of doing business there, foreign manufacturers would just set up shop and dominate the automotive market. No one seems to see the big picture or long term effects of being forced to partner.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Car companies want to sell in China, whatever it takes, because the Chinese market is growing, while the north American, and most European markets will be shrinking.

    As far as technology for electric cars, it is basically “mature,” except that batteries will keep getting cheaper. If anyone comes up with a real breakthrough in batteries, they will sell to everyone, if they can produce enough.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 The i3 will continue to be a niche car, even more than most EV’s, because of the price, about $44K for the base car, with a little over 100 mile range. The range extender adds 80 miles or so. Maybe more than most cars, the way to buy an i3 is pre-owned, as our contributor Bob Wilson did with his off-lease i3.

    Probably the biggest improvement BMW could make to the i3, would be to give the range extender version a bigger gas tank. Bob mentioned working on that, for his car.