AD #2193 – China May Drop JV Rule for EVs, Mack Introduces New Class 8 Semi, Cars That Deliver Themselves

September 19th, 2017 at 11:40am

Runtime: 9:29

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- China Considers Dropping JV Rule for EVs
- Porsche Reveals New Mission E Details
- Mack Introduces New Class 8 Semi
- Cars That Deliver Themselves
- Designing New Iconic Details for BMW

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22 Comments to “AD #2193 – China May Drop JV Rule for EVs, Mack Introduces New Class 8 Semi, Cars That Deliver Themselves”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    China may have an ambitious EV plan but I wonder if upgrading their electrical supply is part of that plan. They don’t currently have a nationwide power grid. They cannot share excess or shortages among the 6 major grids that do exist, which causes frequent outages.

  2. GM Veteran Says:

    Another potential major change to the auto industry with the advent of autonomous vehicles:

    The day may not be too far away when vehicles will leave the assembly plant fully gassed or charged, and drive themselves to the appropriate dealership rather than being shipped on a truck. The only limitation would be the range provided by the tank of gas or battery.

    For longer distances, they could be shipped by train as they are now, and then drive themselves to the dealership from the rail head. The transport companies may not like this, but I bet the car companies might.

  3. Lambo2015 Says:

    Sean you have to love Mack for being honest. On a car they flatten the bottom of the wheel and say its to improve entry and exit. But hey just go ahead and say what it is “Extra belly room” for us fat Americans. :-)

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    #2 Dealership? Just have the car drive itself from the plant to the consumer. Go online and spec your car and have it show up a few days later. I like it.

  5. Buzzerd Says:

    The head tried explain the graphic detail but I think his inspiration came from the Batman movies.

  6. Barry Rector Says:

    Watch out Tesla, the Porsche Mission E is gunning for you!! Porsche buyers will be able to get their sports cars, SUVs and green cars all from one dealer!!

  7. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Self delivered vehicles should remain to the dock or rail yard (or other delivery system that is close to the factory); how many would want ‘there’ brand new car arriving at their house or even dealership with hundreds of miles on them.

    What I saw on Porsche’s electric, at least the side glass area was a Wayne Carini moustache.

  8. Dan Turnpaugh Says:

    Just got my 2018 Chevrolet Silverado picked up a week ago, it would have been a lot of miles from Silao, Mexico to Kokomo, Indiana for it to have driven its self here and cross the border.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    1934 miles, and 1 day, 6 hours according to google maps. Your truck would have quite an adventure.

  10. Lambo2015 Says:

    #7 Doesn’t mean it cant drive itself to the rail yard and then from the rail yard to your home. Id be okay with a few hundred miles >200 to avoid the destination fee.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    That 200+ miles makes it a used car, with an extra $2000+ depreciation, depending on the car.
    Yeah, maybe that is changing, a little, with all of this “dealer trade” stuff replacing factory orders.

  12. Lambo2015 Says:

    Only depreciates if you would try and sell it once it arrives at your home which seems ridiculous.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    True. Just “general principles.” I don’t like buying cars sight unseen, acquired by dealer trade either.

  14. Chuck Grenci Says:

    There would be litigation issues if any paint chips, windshield chips, etc. occurred during delivery. Plus a dirty car, someone would have to detail it prior to sending it on its way (that would be a fiasco in itself) and also, I’m guessing the delivery charge (that is currently added) will remain or at least only be slightly reduced. This is my conjecture; I don’t seeing long range delivery happening.

  15. Len Simpson Says:

    I think the new class of semi tractor should have a powered treadmill, to give the driver/observer something to do between loading docks

  16. Len Simpson Says:

    why hasn’t anyone brought up the subject of powerplant pollution caused by millions of chargers overloading the system by pure ev’s & their I/2 ton of batteries being charged every night? Nissan’s new app of small constant duty generator & very few batteries is the most beautiful solution possible & would expedite the reduction of fossil fuel usage

  17. Len Simpson Says:

    Chuck reminds me that my first title after leaving Dad’s ‘apprenticeship was NewCarGetready at a Ford Dealership–62 years ago

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Part of the reason some goverments are encouraging use of EV’s, is to “export” the pollution from big cities, where the pollution is a problem.

    As far as greenhouse gas emissions, it depends on the source the power.

  19. Lambo2015 Says:

    #16 Yes and China which is the largest contributor of Co2 emissions uses coal to generate something like 73% of their electricity.

    It would be nice to see the comparison of emissions of 300 mile trip using gas vs the electricity generated by coal needed to propel a similar size EV 300 miles.

  20. Lambo2015 Says:

    The problem is the emissions are not just one gas. Found this statement in the following article.

    We should note, however, that for certain non-carbon smokestack emissions–including nitrogen oxides (NOx) and sulfur dioxide (SO2)–that mile driven in an coal-powered electric car is worse than one in a modern gasoline car.

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Here is a good article about relative carbon emissions for EV’s vs gas cars, in countries around the world.

  22. Lambo2015 Says:

    Great article Kit. Not sure if you go back and see this as I don’t tend to go back after the next AD is published.
    However even the comments below the article made a good point that when looking at the overall carbon footprint they often leave out the emissions created to drill, extract, transport and refine crude oil. Even beyond that they leave out the emissions required to generate the electricity emissions required during the refining process. The other thing I see them often neglect is over the life of a ICE engine or say 100k miles the car should get about 10 to 20 oil changes so another 10 to 20 gallons of refined formulated oil. Plus transmission oil. However I don’t know what all lubricants are in a full EV vehicle and their service intervals.