AD #2239 – Market Share Winners & Losers, New Brake Rotor Cuts Dust, 1st Quick-Release Steering Wheel?

November 22nd, 2017 at 11:50am

Runtime: 10:43

0:30 U.S. Market Share Winners
1:07 U.S. Market Share Losers
1:28 ZF Develops Modular Rear Axle
3:02 New Tungsten Brake Rotor Reduces Dust
4:09 FCA to Test Alternative Fuels
4:40 First Quick-Release Steering Wheel?
6:20 You Said It!

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19 Comments to “AD #2239 – Market Share Winners & Losers, New Brake Rotor Cuts Dust, 1st Quick-Release Steering Wheel?”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    I’m all for less brake dust and would gladly pay 3x the price for a new set of rotors that would cut it by 90%.

  2. Dave Thompson Says:

    alternatives to the lengthy and high pressure sales environment to become available including the service department’s sales approach

  3. Lisk Says:

    Back in the mid-70s Grant marketed a removable steering wheel as an anti-theft device. After the steering wheel was removed a locking hub was placed over the steering shaft to keep car thieves from driving away.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3 Was that before “the club”?

  5. Lisk Says:

    #4) I’m not sure when “the club” came out but I thought it was the early 80′s but I’m pretty sure there was a device that operated the same way since the 60′s. I remember seeing them in the J.C. Whitney catalogs.

  6. MJB Says:

    The iDisk sounds great and all, but I’ve gotta say that ever since I switched to ceramic pads (over 15yr ago) the amount of brake dust ending up on my wheels has already been cut by about 90%

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Apple will probably sue Bosch for using the name iDisc.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6, MJB, Do disks wear faster with ceramic pads? I assume that the pads wear slower.

  9. Drew Says:

    Happy Thanksgiving to all.

    I can support iDisc if both rotor and pad life are increased, braking performance is not degraded, and my wheels stay cleaner. But today’s fad for grey or black wheels may negate some (poor taste IMHO) people’s motivation for iDisc.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    When EV’s take over the world, brakes will last almost forever, with most braking being of the regenerative type.

  11. Chuck Grenci Says:

    That ZF rear-end certainly looks slick and if an automaker is looking for an easy(‘r) way to electric it might be just the thing. Wonder as to what a fairly sophisticated, as shown, system would cost.

    The article on brake rotors was also very interesting and insightful; the rotor is only half of the equation so I wonder what the brake-dust from the pads does to contribute to particulates. But if the rotor lasts longer that is certainly a good thing for the consumer (and the environment).

    Happy Thanksgiving to all my Autoline brethren (you all certainly brighten up my day).

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I always assumed that the brake dust deposited on wheels was from the pads, more than the rotors, but maybe not. Either way, less is better, especially since I’m sure it is not good to breathe, even though asbestos is no longer used in the pads (that I know of).

  13. Ctech Says:

    Happy Thanksgiving.

    As I shop for new rotors for both my Dodge magnum and Volvo C30, I am intrigued by a rotor that lasts 2x as long, even if it costs more.

  14. Brian Sheaffer Says:

    Ford designed the Energis with poor battery cooling and management. Charging while air temps are even in the 80s can cause the battery to exceed it’s thermal “danger zone” – and, while it won’t run on battery if it’s too hot, it will NOT stop charging. I lost over 25% capacity within the first 1.5 years of ownership because I charged during a hot summer (and I know of numerous others with the same problem). Ford warranties the battery, but does not define what degree of battery capacity loss qualifies, and ignores any claims or questions regarding capacity loss. I’ve been, in general, very happy with my Energi. But not with Ford.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’ve never needed to replace a rotor, but I rarely have a car more than 100K miles. Do rotors actually wear out?

  16. Bob Wilson Says:

    About Ken Foster’s battery degradation, I asked the C-MAX forum about it (see web link) and they report excessive air-cooled battery temperature. Overheating was a problem with the early, air-cooled Leaf batteries and found in the early, air-cooled Gen-1 Prius, NiMH batteries. My one engine failure was an air-cooled, VW microbus engine because a dip stick, wipe rag blew into the cooling air impeller.

    Air cooling can work but only if careful attention is made to temperature management and monitoring. Done badly, air cooling can go dreadfully wrong, very quickly.

    Bob Wilson, Huntsville, AL

  17. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Good morning everyone. I hope you all had a great T-Day. I know I certainly did ;}>

    I ran across this article this morning and want to share it. It poses some interesting scenarios for the upcoming ‘autonomous vehicle’ craz.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/11/23/self-driving-cars-programmed-decide-who-dies-crash/891493001/

    I know it’s off topic,but that never stopped us before of continuing on going conversations that we all express a certain interest in.

  18. Ctech Says:

    @ #14 Yes brake rotors can and do wear thin, or most likely get warped beyond the point of being unsafe to resurface. Both of my vehicles are well over 120k miles.

  19. veh Says:

    #14, I remember back in my service advisor days seeing many cars come in with deep gashes in the rotors because the brake pads had worn down past their rivets. And that was back in the day when rotors weighed about ten pounds each and were meant to be turned a few times during their lives.

    One particularly memorable van had rotors that were so abused, the disc had separated from the hub and was just rattling around inside the wheel (hi, my car is making this loud clanking noise…)