AD #2242 – New Jeep Wrangler Details, Lincoln Renames MKX the Nautilus, PSA Wants Refund for Opel

November 29th, 2017 at 11:47am

Runtime: 7:27

0:28 PSA Wants Refund for Opel
1:10 Daimler Improves Truck Driver Alertness with Lighting
2:23 New Jeep Wrangler Details
3:20 Subaru Unveils the Ascent
4:20 Infiniti Reveals QX50
5:33 Lincoln Renames MKX the Nautilus
6:40 Lincoln to Launch Subscription Service

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35 Comments to “AD #2242 – New Jeep Wrangler Details, Lincoln Renames MKX the Nautilus, PSA Wants Refund for Opel”

  1. David Sprowl Says:

    Is the industry finally giving up the alphabet naming of products? I hope so.

  2. Mac Says:

    Wonder why the 8-speed (Aisin, presumably) was chosen over JV 9-speed? Ford is taking its sweet time with that unit.

  3. Sean McElroy Says:

    @David Sprowl – I can’t wait for the new naming structure at Lincoln make its way down to the sedans. Lincoln has a rich history of names it could choose from.

  4. David Sprowl Says:

    @2. The 9 speed used by several OEM’s in a word just sucked. The transmission was in constant hunt for the right gear for the conditions present on the road. At least 2 OEM’s have given up on the ZF 9 speed.

  5. David Sprowl Says:

    @Sean – Will Lincoln even keep sedans. I’m apparently the odd duck vehicle buyers. I like the smaller pick ups with a long bed, and I’m wanting to replace a convertible with – a convertible. patients I guess. And yes Lincoln has deep reserve of names to resurrect.

  6. Bradley Says:

    8 Speed CVT.

    Is this just Marketing or what is going on here?

  7. Sean McElroy Says:

    @David Sprowl – I believe Lincoln will keep its sedans. And I would not be surprised to see a larger flagship above the Continental once it has its full compliment of SUVs and if sales are descent.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Autoweek is saying that the new Wrangler will gain weight, at least in some configurations. One wonders why, with aluminum and magnesium replacing steel for much of the body. The new one is a little, but not much bigger.

  9. David Sprowl Says:

    @ Bradley – the 8 speed CVT is still a CVT, but with programed “steps”. It may be programed to adjust within a given gear ratio to adjust to road conditions. The biggest advantage is lighter weight and MPG improvements. The disadvantage is its still a CVT

  10. XA351GT Says:

    HAHA Good luck PSA. You bought a pig in a poke and now you want to bailed out for not doing your homework!? If your going to spend a million on anything you should damn well know whether or not your are getting what you think you are. Why do they think GM was dumping those albatrosses in the 1st place? If you are that dumb you deserve to get hosed.

  11. Bradley Says:



  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 The ZF 9-speed transaxle, also built under license by Chrysler, uses two “dog” clutches in place of friction clutches, making it difficult to get good shift quality. I’ve heard fewer complaints recently, so maybe tweating of control software has helped improve it.

  13. Lisk Says:

    Even though it’s tradition and it wouldn’t be right to offer a Jeep CJ/Wrangler without removable or soft doors, how do they get by with meeting side impact standards? I would think an older truck with a more squared off front end would have no trouble fitting in the opening between the a-, b-, & c-posts on a low angle side impact. The older CJs had a higher sill and narrower opening.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    One would hope that the stupid, gimmicky “shifting” of the Subaru CVT can be turned off. With that, you lose some of the performance and efficiency benefits of the CVT, just so you can have a little jerkiness.

  15. Lambo2015 Says:

    GM misled PSA about Opel’s CO2 challenges? What? They didn’t know what the new European standards would be? So they want a 60 to 80% refund.. ha ha good luck with that. Sounds like maybe PSA didn’t do their due diligence. IMO.

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    The Nautilus seems like a great name for a boat or something that’s bad its getting better or less naughty, -Nautilus.

  17. Lex Says:

    To my eye the new Subaru Ascent looks like a Nissan Rogue from it’s side profile view. Not very innovative on the part of Subaru Design Team. Will the next generation Subaru Forester be just a scaled down version of the New Ascent?

    Glad to see that Lincoln is giving up the Alpha Numeric naming scheme used by so many OEMs. I wonder what Honda is going to name it’s new five passenger smaller version of the Pilot? The Honda Pilot Sport or Passport are two reasonable names.

  18. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I would think that the PSA sale was final and a monetary adjustment seems out of line. Could have G.M. actually made a good move (in selling).

    Aviator to MKX and now back to Nautilus; I like it (and wished more manufacturers would go back to naming vehicles names not alpha-numerics).

  19. Lex Says:

    My follow contributors to Autoline, when is the best time of year to purchase or lease a new vehicle? I am thinking of trading in my current vehicle for one with the latest tech features like backup camera, Bluetooth, surround view, panoramic roof, Apple Carplay, etc, LOL. Would I be better off do a deal in December to take advantage of the end of the calendar year sales or waiting until summer when the next year models are arriving in the showrooms?

  20. Lisk Says:

    Somehow I think PSA is just having buyers remorse. I can’t think GM/Opel was that far off on the European emission standards as GM still sells cars in Europe. I’m quite sure with GMs global reach, the emissions testing and development was shared among their various worldwide brands. If the current engines won’t meet the future CO2 standards does that mean PSA doesn’t have the talent to integrate their power teams into Opel products? Maybe the French Gov’t should assist PSA by selling some of their surplus WWII French Army rifles; never fired, only dropped once.

  21. Lisk Says:

    19) For the best deal I’d wait until the last day of the year. Everybody is looking for that one last sale and the Mfgs put the pressure on dealers to help the Mfgs meet their objectives. Unless you keep your vehicles 6-7 years, don’t get caught in the “rebate” trap. There is no way you’ll be ahead buying year old product and try to keep up on the depreciation cycle. Also if it’s last years model, that usually means its been sitting for six months of so getting “lot rot”. Try to buy something that is fresh to the dealers lot.

  22. buzzerd Says:

    ” lot rot” ??? these are cars not fruit.
    I think the ” best time ” depends. If you plan on keeping it a while then September is good but selection will be small. and get a 17.
    If you plan on turning it over in 4 or 5 years now is a good time and get an 18, otherwise you are buying a 1 yr old vehicle that will be worth that much less on resale

  23. Lisk Says:

    22) “Lot rot” is the dings, scratches, wear, baked on dust & dirt, and “square tires” cars get on dealers lots from setting around. It’s not from being careless on the dealers part, just from cars being left outside for months and folks walking around them touching, handling, rubbing, and test driving them. Even though it’s a brand new car, sitting is never good for them. If you really take care of your cars, these are cars you should avoid.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    When I hear the word “nautilus,” I think of a submarine, the first nuclear powered submarine which entered service in the 1950′s when I was in grade school. Younger people might not have heard of it.

    As far as a car name, I like Nautilus better than MK-whatever, but somehow, there would seem to be better animals to name a car after, than one that lives underwater, and can barely move under its own power.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    23 Also, the batteries of cars that have sat for months will generally have a much shorter life than in a “fresh” car, because it will have run down multiple times.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Buying a “last year’s” car at the end of a model year can be a good deal, for someone who plans to keep the car a long time, but such a car will instantly have thousands of dollars of extra depreciation, depending on the price of the car. Also, more than in the past, it can make sense to pay extra for the latest model year, as new features become standard. An example is that adaptive cruise/automatic emergency braking is becoming standard in some cars that are otherwise carry over models.

  27. Chuck Grenci Says:

    The “Nautilus” was also Captain Nemo’s submarine in “Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea” so there is also that tie. Its name evokes an adventurous nature so that’s not a bad thing.

  28. MJB Says:

    YES!!! :)

    Thank you, Lincoln, for being bold enough to nix the alpha-numeric nomenclature that your German nemesis coxed you into adopting so many years back. Welcome back from your slumber. ;)

    And I must say, I honestly believe Cadillac will follow suit also within just one product cycle. They’ve got just as much (if not more) ‘heritage’ tied up in vehicle names of yore that are now lying dormant.

  29. Lambo2015 Says:

    28 At least with Cadillac the names made sense. Especially if you knew the heritage.
    TS= touring sedan
    STS = Seville TS
    CTS = Caterea TS
    DTS = Deville TS
    ETS = Eldorado TS

    But yes I will be glad to see the names return too.

  30. Drew Says:

    @19 – I believe the best time to lease is in December when residuals are high and sales motivation is also high.

    I believe the best time to purchase is in August or September when residuals start to slip, but cash/APR deals are most incentized to clear-out inventory for the upcoming model year.

  31. Earl Says:

    It took the Chinese to get Lincoln to finally give up on that “MK” labelling. The Chinese will soon be the largest buyers of vehicles and Detroit is listening. It will be interesting what the new label on the MKC will be.

  32. wmb Says:

    So it doesn’t matter what gender is running the company and making decisions, in the end it’s just business?!

  33. Mark Says:

    Please tell me Lincoln naming a vehicle ‘ Nautilus’ is a joke. A terrible one at that.

  34. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I always liked the name Zephyr, both on my aunt’s 1937 car that I barely remember as a kid, and when the name was used for the top-of-the-line Fusion, before the nonsense letters took over.

  35. Lex Says:

    I want to thank Lisk, buzzerd, Kit Gerhart and Drew for your insightful advice on purchasing or leasing a new vehicle and when to do it.