AD #2258 – Acura Teases All-New RDX, Accord Engineers Shrink Hybrid Package, Porsche & Aston Test Residential Market
December 21st, 2017 at 11:46am
Runtime: 6:42
0:30 Renault Forms JV for Chinese LCVs
1:08 Acura Teases All-New RDX Prototype
2:19 Jeep Wrangler Gets a Tool Kit
2:55 Accord Engineers Shrink Hybrid Package
4:49 Consumers Ready for Subscription-Based Ownership?
5:37 Porsche & Aston Martin Test Residential Market
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On today’s show… Honda engineers came up with a clever way to add more trunk space to the new Accord Hybrid… Porsche and Aston are expanding their brands way beyond the automotive industry… and Acura teases the all-new RDX. All that and more coming right up on Autoline Daily.
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RENAULT FORMS JV FOR CHINESE LCVs
The Chinese market for light commercial vehicles, or LCV’s, is closing in on 3 million sales annually and demand is increasing for European style vans. So Renault and Chinese automaker Brilliance are forming a joint venture to build LCVs in China starting in 2020. The JV will manufacture vehicles for Renault and Brilliance’s Jinbei and Huasong brands, in three segments, minivans or what they call MPVs in Europe, as well as medium and heavy vans. The companies are aiming to sell 150,000 vehicles annually by 2022.
ACURA TEASES ALL-NEW RDX PROTOTYPE
Yesterday Honda showed a new Insight Prototype, today Acura is teasing an all-new RDX Prototype. For the first time, the crossover was designed and developed in America and rides on a new, Acura-exclusive platform. It appears much more shapely than the current model and funny enough, has one of those “shark fins” we were talking about yesterday. It also wears the brand’s new signature grille along with a sleek set of headlights. The interior is all-new and features a similar gear and drive mode selector as the NSX. The user interface and operating system were designed from a clean sheet as well. Like the Insight, the new RDX Prototype will make its debut at the Detroit auto show.
Honda faced a real challenge in developing the new Accord Hybrid and that’s coming up next.
JEEP WRANGLER COMES WITH TOOL KIT
We love when car companies add thoughtful touches to their vehicles and Jeep is one of the best. Every new Jeep Wrangler comes with this little tool kit in the center console. It has a socket wrench and several Torx bits that are used to remove the roof, fold down the windshield, adjust the rear view camera, and take off the doors. In fact the door hinges have “T-50” cast into them so you know exactly which Torx bit to use when you want to go for that open air driving. It’s small touches like these that cement the brand loyalty of your owners.
HONDA ENGINEERS SHRINK HYBRID PACKAGE
Honda faced a major challenge developing the new Accord hybrid. It wanted more trunk space and a 60/40 fold-down rear seat. On the old hybrid, the battery and power electronics, what they call the IPU, were blocking the way. So Honda engineers set out to shrink the package. Battery technology is better so they made it smaller. They also shrunk the electronics. All together the IPU is now one third smaller. That allowed them to move it out of the trunk and under the back seat. There still wasn’t enough room so they made the gas tank smaller, 40 liters versus 60 liters on the old one. The driving range on the new hybrid is actually less than before, but it’s still better than the gasoline-only Accord. And this is a great example of the kind of trade offs engineers have to go through in developing a car. They sacrificed a bit of range so that the car would be more user friendly, and that should help Honda sell more Accord hybrids.
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Coming up next, why in the world are Porsche and Aston Martin designing condos in Miami?
PLEASE LIKE, LEAVE A COMMENT AND SUBSCRIBE
We’ve seen automakers, like Cadillac, Ford, Porsche, Volvo and Hyundai recently roll out new subscription-based programs that lump all the costs of ownership, including insurance, into one payment. This allows automakers to avoid used vehicles pilling up as they come off lease. They can manage which models are included in the subscription program and how often they’re swapped out. With some programs, customers can get in a new vehicle whenever they want. And we may be seeing a shift in consumer preference. One expert says the trend to longer term loans could signal that people are ready to embrace a subscription-based ownership model. How about you? Are you ready to switch over to paying for your car like you pay for your phone?
PORSCHE & ASTON TEST RESIDENTIAL MARKET
For the better part of a century luxury car brands only did one thing. They made luxury cars. But now they’re beginning to discover that their brands have cachet well outside the automotive industry. Porsche and Aston Martin recently designed luxury residential buildings in Miami. The entranceways and public areas use design themes developed by each car company. And if you want them to design your own personal condo they’ll do that too. All you have to do is open your checkbook, but you better be ready to spend millions. And who ever thought we’d see the day when two of the most glorious names in sports cars would turn their attention towards high-end residential buildings?
And that brings us to the end of today’s show, thanks for watching and please join us again tomorrow.
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December 21st, 2017 at 12:28 pm
The subscription based program could be nice if the vehicles are detailed in-between owners. I just wonder about rolling in insurance since most premiums are based not only on the vehicle but the driver.
I do think this will continue to diminish the love affair that people once had with the automobile. Programs like this and ride sharing turn the automobile into more of a public utility rather than something that people take pride in ownership. Aftermarket companies that make custom wheels, tint windows, add car starters and such will have a very limited market. No one will customize a monthly rental.
December 21st, 2017 at 12:55 pm
I’m sure the subscription services lay out what colors, models and equipment levels will be offered, but what if the model you want ins’t available. I sure wouldn’t want to sign up for the Porsche program and want a 911 for the weekend and there only be Panamera or a Cayenne available?
Since I’m from small town Ohio, I doubt I’ll have to worry about the services being offered close to me anyway.
The Jeep Wrangler tool kit reminds me of the key and later the one purpose ratchet that used to come in the 1984-96 Corvettes. Usually the first owner was the only one who actually got one. This seemed to be a pretty popular “souvenir. I wonder if the Jeep toolkit will have the same fate?
December 21st, 2017 at 1:30 pm
Being a dinosaur (& control freak) I’m not a fan of leasing. Only time I rented a car was a BMW 330i from 2001 to 2004. Financially it was what I expected since I bought extra miles up front & turned it in with 44,995 miles on it, however, I still am not a mental fan of leasing. Long way of saying while Subscription Service may work for some, seriously doubt if I’ll ever go in that direction.
Tool kits – BMW had one, & our 1979 Porsche 928 also had one. Nice touch & I give kudos to Jeep for including one.
December 21st, 2017 at 1:50 pm
I appears to me that the New Acura RDX is a more upscale version on the Honda CRV. I hope it now offers Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.
December 21st, 2017 at 1:53 pm
Having the battery and gas tank close together in the Honda Accord Hybrid pose a fire hazard in a rear or side collision?
December 21st, 2017 at 1:54 pm
Re: the Acura RDX prototype, I’ll believe the hype only when I see the finished product in a dealer showroom. After seeing how upscale Honda made the new Accord, I continue to believe that any Acura announcements are simply last gasp attempts to keep the brand relevant.
December 21st, 2017 at 2:28 pm
Sean; Any details on the subscription programs as far as length of ownership? Are the subscribers able to change vehicles whenever they want, or do they have to keep a vehicle for a minimum time frame like a week, month or year? I think many people assume this will be like a ride share and able to change at will. I suspect it will be like short term lease with a minimum 30 day or more per vehicle.
December 21st, 2017 at 5:06 pm
I want to wish all the Autoline family, a very happy holidays and a great New Year. One of the reasons I keep coming back for the excellent news is the way you keep everyone refreshed and happy, taking company holidays as you can. My son works in tech in the U.S. and he will get Christmas Day and that’s it. The U.S., and Canada, really need to take a hint from other modern countries. Quality of life is essential. Well done.
It might be fun to do an AAH retrospective show, looking at how far you have come from the early days, John. I know it would be of great interest to your audience.
December 21st, 2017 at 10:23 pm
Dealers will have fun keeping the sales staff from stealing the tool kits. There’s a reason the nice floor mats are “extra” on some vehicles.
If Porsche and Aston are designing high-end homes, it won’t be long before GM (Corvette, Cadillac, and Camaro) and Ford (Lincold and Mustang) offer home furnishings.
December 22nd, 2017 at 8:22 am
#9 Well maybe the automakers realize that as AV becomes more popular the interior of cars will become more like a living room than a car interior. SO they need to brush up on home interior design.
December 22nd, 2017 at 2:37 pm
#8) The archives on the right side of the screen go back to October 2008. Its not a concise retrospective (which I also would enjoy), but it is fun to occasionally look back and watch an old show.
Its similar to looking back at old car magazines and reading in hindsight how we all viewed the “new vehicles” that are now commonplace or even ones that never came to fruition.