AD #2267 – GM Achieves Major Milestone, Stunning Interpretation of Citroen DS, Why Is FCA’s Stock Price Skyrocketing?

January 12th, 2018 at 11:36am

Runtime: 6:54

0:31 GM Achieves Major Milestone
1:22 Why Is FCA’s Stock Price Skyrocketing?
2:00 Ram HD Production Moves from Mexico to Michigan
2:51 BorgWarner Develops New AWD Solution
3:36 Stunning Interpretation of Original Citroen DS
4:39 Who Will Win NACTOY Awards?

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28 Comments to “AD #2267 – GM Achieves Major Milestone, Stunning Interpretation of Citroen DS, Why Is FCA’s Stock Price Skyrocketing?”

  1. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I never, and I mean never, cared for the looks of the Citroen DS, at least not until now (from the pen of Jean Louis Bui; I whole heartedly agree with Sean that given this design, this will be a winner.

  2. Lambo2015 Says:

    Dont want to get political but moving production from Mexico into the US but even better the northern US is great news, not to mention the 1 billion dollars to be spent and 2500 direct jobs which means just about as many indirect jobs. Then throw on 120 million in bonuses due to tax cuts. Seems like all the right things to me..

  3. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I believe that GM will have an uphill battle, of getting the proper permissions to allowing this on the road. Currently it is illegal for these self driving (autonomous) vehicles from operating without a driver present. This will/may certainly be in everyone’s future (if you are young enough now) but I still don’t think it is ‘ready for prime time’. I believe the road to autonomy will be millions of miles driven, autonomously, but with a driver present, then documented, for these millions of miles driven, that no driver input was required. I won’t get into the litigious issues if even one accident occurs autonomously (despite how much more safer it is than regular drivered vehicles) but suffice it to say; not yet. JMO

  4. Drew Says:

    John, you are welcome to deliver my NAxOTY proxies… Accord, Volvo XC, and Navigator.

  5. Wayne Says:

    Just what we need. A Chinese Jeep!

  6. John McElroy Says:

    #4. Drew. I gave points to all the finalists, but your selection is pretty much how I voted.

  7. Lambo2015 Says:

    #3 I think they will get approval as the government can certainly issue a permit that supersedes the law on a limited basis. If so I think it will most likely be San Francisco. My guess is they will be restricted to inner city areas roads under 35mph.

  8. JWH Says:

    I wonder why Navigator & Expedition are classified as Trucks instead of Utility vehicle? Could be to separate body on frame vs unibody, however, Navigator & Expedition with full interior & no pick up bed sure look like Utility vehicles to me.

  9. Len Simpson Says:

    the proper GM name should be AutoCruiseVehicle —ACV for short

  10. Len Simpson Says:

    Re; Citroen—-owned an SM briefly 25 years ago, I restored it from flood damage , returned it to it’s mother country via eBay.Unique & impressive engineering

  11. John McElroy Says:

    #8. You’re right, NACTOY decided to classify Navigator and Expedition in the truck category because they are body on frame. I don’t agree with that classification. They are utilities.

  12. Lisk Says:

    The interior of the Bolt/Cruise AV without a steering wheel, shifter, and lack of outside or inside mirrors looks totally weird. It should have been pretty simple to use half of the dash from the RHD Bolts on the driver’s side but I noticed there was no glovebox on the left? At first I was meh on the whole AV thing but now that it’s getting closer, my interest is pretty strong. I’ll still keep my cars with steering wheels and clutch pedals, but this is pretty cool stuff.

  13. BobD Says:

    #11 – So John, if you don’t agree with the classification, why not vote for the ZR2. Yes a variation upon an existing truck, but a truck never-the-less. And I suspect the number of unique parts on a ZR2 compared to the standard Colorado are a lot more than one would think (I just traded a 2015 Colorado Z71 for a 2018 ZR2 and was surprised/impressed with how different this truck is).

  14. John McElroy Says:

    BobD. ZR2 is an amazing truck, with a sensational suspension and spectacular AWD system. But it’s a performance variation of the existing Colorado. NACTOY rules clearly call for a significant re-design (as in new sheet metal) or an all-new design. This is why cars like the Mustang GT 350 or Camaro ZL1 were never eligible for the award.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    For NAxOTY, I pick Stinger, XC60, and , and ZR2. I’d pick Stinger, because if it is anything like the G80, which I have experienced, it is a very good car, and its being a hatchback makes it even better. With the ZR2, as John says, it’s just a new version of a non-new product, but the Ford Tall Trucky Wagon vote will be split between the other two.

    They probably put the Expedition and Navigator in the truck category, so they would have more than one entry in the category. They should just stick with car and truck, using the EPA definitions, no matter how silly those definitions are, unless they want to have a coupe of the year, convertible of the year, car-height wagon of the year, etc., etc. While a lot of pickup trucks are sold, there are not very many different ones on the market, and almost no “all new” ones in a given model year.

  16. GM Veteran Says:

    Who is in charge of marketing at GM? They need someone with some common sense.

    Let me see if I have this right. Chevy will continue building the Chevy Cruze for another year or two, more than likely, until sedan sales totally peter out. And next year, they will start production of the Chevy Cruise AV, a plug in electric vehicle which is really an autonomous version of the Chevy Bolt, not to be confused with the Volt, Chevy’s plug in hybrid.

    Is the model name pool really that shallow at Chevy? Perhaps they are slapping the bowtie on too many models and they are simply running out of ideas.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    At least they spell “cruise” correctly for the autonomous car, but yeah, I agree about the too-similar names. It probably won’t be a big deal with the Cruise AV, though, because it will be many years before it, or anything similar, is sold to the general public.

  18. Lambo2015 Says:

    16 IMO I think all of the automakers are scrambling to figure out what to market and plan for. The electronics industry changes at a much faster rate than the automotive industry. They need to design a vehicle with plug n play electronics because by time they launch a new vehicle 36 to 48 months the AV technology has jumped 4 versions if not more. They are all going to struggle with this new technology and how to integrate it into their cars.

  19. JWH Says:

    #16 – Unless something has changed, I believe GM is still wandering in the forest without a chief marketing officer. No surprise to me that confusion appears to reign supreme.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    This is totally off-topic for today’s show, but a good review of the Tesla 3.

  21. Chuck Grenci Says:

    My picks are for the Accord, Volvo and the Chevy (because it is a truck). If the Chevy was never really a viable choice to vote for, because of being just a performance variation, well then it should have never made the list. Since my pick is null and void, I’ll then go with the new Explorer, as it is the more mainstream model that will appeal (and sell) to more of general public.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #21 If they hadn’t included performance variations and SUVs, there wouldn’t have been even one entry for truck, unless I’m forgetting something. They really seem to need a new “system” for these awards.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Actually, they should probably go back to the old system. Pickup trucks, and the various tall wagons with lift kits are “trucks.” Sedans, coupes, convertibles, low roof wagons, and hatchbacks are “cars.” There would still be some confusion with minivans, and slightly tall vehicles like Kia Soul, etc. How about just one award, “light vehicle of the year,” defined as some maximum GVW?

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Chevy is going to have a proper diesel in the Silverado 1500, an in-line six.

  25. Chuck Grenci Says:

    And next year shouldn’t be a problem (for NACTOY): new Silverado, new Ram and new Ranger. They better vote for a real truck in 19.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 Yeah, very true. This year, they shouldn’t have even had a truck award, since they separated out most of the tall wagons, but next year should be the best truck competition since they’ve had NAxOTY.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I read that the Ranger will have one, and only one powertrain in the US, a 2.3 turbo, and 10-speed automatic.

  28. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I just read of Dan Gurney’s passing; RIP

    A true car guy; raced them, designed them, built them (and always the gentleman)