AD #2297 – Peugeot Reveals The 508, Congress Wants to Open New VW Probe, Will Lincoln Introduce a Performance Car?

February 23rd, 2018 at 11:53am

Runtime: 6:55

0:29 Ford Promotes Kumar Galhotra
1:00 Takata Reaches $650 Million Settlement
1:31 Congress Wants to Open New VW Probe
2:33 Peugeot Reveals The 508
3:23 MINI to Build EVs In China
4:29 Will Lincoln Introduce a Performance Vehicle?

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21 Comments to “AD #2297 – Peugeot Reveals The 508, Congress Wants to Open New VW Probe, Will Lincoln Introduce a Performance Car?”

  1. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Those arrow tail lights on the mini,both facing in. Should be fun when using the turn signals…

  2. Sean McElroy Says:

    @G.A. – Those are pictures of a electric concept MINI showed recently and if you put the two side together it forms the British flag. Not sure they would actually make their way to production.

  3. Chuck Grenci Says:

    The Peugeot looks good but what else is it bringing to the table; need more than acceptable/good looks these days, especially if you want to make inroads (in a segment).

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    There will be a wagon version of the new Peugeot 508, which should be a very nice car.

  5. Frederick Schmidt Says:

    The new Lincoln front end design. I saw several on I80 yesterday and well design, like or dislike is subjective, to me it looks better on TV than on the road. If this is the new face of Lincoln, its not very engaging. It appears to me like lets do this for now and we will upgrade/enhance in a year. If anything its a step backward. There are designs between the Lexus thimble and the Lincoln. Timeless designs like BMW and MB are where they need to go.

  6. Lisk Says:

    Refreshing to see that Lincoln is smartly going after the market. I hope they concentrate on the core product and spend the money that would have been wasted a performance image on a bunch of smaller crossovers. Build the core then go after the niche. Cadillac failed at this. The V-series compete with every other luxury brand in that segment, but the segment is too small for any significant impact.

    The 508 is just too bland for this to be their re-entry vehicle into the U.S. market. I really don’t like the profile from the A-pillar forward. The pedestrian friendly hood line raises it up to give it an awkward appearance. VW, Alfa, and Volvo do it much more gracefully.

  7. G.A.Branigan Says:

    @ Sean:
    Wouldn’t it be a hoot if they did make it into production,lmao.

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    Lincoln would struggle to make a performance sedan with the limited power-trains within FoMoCo They have gone after the fuel economy and downsized engine selection leaving only the 5.0L and 5.2L mustang engines. They could probably dump one of their boosted V6s in a lincoln but that would not deliver the smooth refined power they want.
    Maybe its a good choice considering is a limited market. Cadillac has never broken 5000 units of the CTSV even when it was sold in a Coupe, Sedan and Wagon version. Most sales have been around 2500 a year. So maybe Lincoln is doing whats best for investors and not so much what would be good for gathering excitement or interest in the brand.

  9. Todd T Says:

    As a guest on Autoline I recall my estimation of VW’s exposure would be $70 billion, and would drag on for a decade at least. Had they handled the crisis in a smarter (less obtuse) way they could have reduced their exposure to the amount they have paid up to this point, and have all this behind them. They could have customers THRILLED with the brand. Instead, their “good riddance” settlement with owners only served to further alienate those customers and everyone they know. As it is, VW’s image will be like an anchor weighing down every launch they have for the next decade at least.

  10. Sean McElroy Says:

    @G.A. – sure would! I think they are clever.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Lincoln doesn’t have anything to base a serious performance vehicle on. All they have is a bunch of FWD-based sedans and crossovers, and the huge, heavy.Navigator.

    As Lambo said, while Cadillac has offered some good performance variants with the “V” cars, they haven’t sold, and are probably money losers. Lincoln shouldn’t attempt that game. The products wouldn’t sell well, even if they were good, but they probably wouldn’t be that good, given the starting points.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2, 7, 10 I read somewhere, maybe Autoweek, that the union jack tail lights WILL make it into production with the 2019 refresh. I’ll try to find the article.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

  14. Alexander Crabitses Says:

    Joy Falotico has absolutely no product or marketing experience (based on her Linkedin profile) and all of the stellar progress that has been made by Kumar Galhotra at Lincoln stands a chance of coming to a standstill due to her inexperience in this area.

  15. Bob Wilson Says:

    Congress wants to investigate VW? H*ll NO!

    1) They did not investigate and discover the cheat.
    2) Fines and adjudication have already been levied.
    3) There is no “international” treaty that requires USA meddling.

    It is a Congress that is complicit in gutting the EPA and NHTSA mileage targets. This is a total waste of time and money.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 Exactly

  17. wmb Says:

    While I understand Lincoln’s position and their desire not to create a vehicle that won’t sell, it is interesting to me that they have a very powerful V6 in the Ford GT, was close to 650 horses, that I will wonder would fit under the new Lincoln Continentals. Or under the hood of a Lincoln version the all-wheel drive Ford Explorer. Or under the hood of a Lincoln version of the Ford Mustang sport Coupe and convertible. While most of these things might be off the shelf and therefore not cost very much money (As compared to designing and engineering something from scratch), it makes no sense to produce them if people will not buy them. But that doesn’t stop someone from dreaming that they would!

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17 Yep, the engine from the Ford GT has lots of power, but probably way too much power for the transaxles used in Continental, Explorer, etc. It should work with existing Mustang hardware, though. Would they call a Lincoln Mustang Cougar, as the last “upscale” Mustang?

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    People at R & T really don’t like the sound of turbocharged engines, whether 4, 6, or 12 cylinders.

  20. Lambo2015 Says:

    #17 & 18 the Ford GT gets the same 3.5L engine that is offered in the F-series (standard in the Raptor) Its just increased boost and tuned to get the higher HP. I think they did some other things like dry sump too but basically same motor. Again though Lincoln wants a smooth refined power delivery and offering a sport version is in direct conflict with that target. The Vee vesions of the Cadillac’s have a stiffer ride and harder shifting and balances that sport and luxury pretty well with transmission and ride selections but with performance tires its still a stiffer harder ride than the typical Caddy. Ford could do it I just think the return on investment isnt there for them.

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    They could use a less boosted 3.5 turbo in some of the transverse engine Ford/Lincolns, and get by with it, but it wouldn’t buy many extra sales. They already sell the Continental with a 400hp 3.0 turbo. From what I’ve read about the Continental, their top priority should be to maximize “luxury,” as in ride quality. C and D, and maybe others say the ride is on the harsh side, given the car’s intended market.