AD #2340 – Bosch Announces Diesel Breakthrough, BMW Reveals iX3 Concept, Lexus Unwraps New ES

April 25th, 2018 at 11:43am

Runtime: 8:22

0:29 Bosch Announced Diesel Breakthrough
3:14 BMW Reveals iX3 Concept
3:38 Lexus Unwraps New ES
4:16 Kia Unveils YI PAO And K5 Plug-In
5:03 You Said It!

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26 Comments to “AD #2340 – Bosch Announces Diesel Breakthrough, BMW Reveals iX3 Concept, Lexus Unwraps New ES”

  1. Todd T Says:

    For all the diesel doomsday talk, it’s been obvious that Rudolf’s invention is far from obsolete. Beyond, simple technologies like this one there are also water injection technologies that could further reduce emissions and increase power. These still fall in the “mad hatter” area of ideas, but there could be real promise. The low-end torque available from diesel is just something that is too hard to give up. Ironically, it’s what people love about driving electric as well. Until all electricity is made from renewable, it will never match the efficiency AND emissions of diesel over the life of the car.

  2. Wim van Acker Says:

    @2, exactly, and does not require large quantities of hard-to-mine rare earth metals, of which the mining is currently practically a Chinese monopoly.

  3. Albemarle Says:

    I remember that Bosch was the designer of the software that VW used for emission cheating. Excuse me if I am not totally enthusiastic about their next idea. It will work well, on official testing, but what about real world situations.
    Fool me once… etc.

  4. Frederick Schmidt Says:

    Gas and diesel are not going away and will maintain their share of the market. Until range/recharge time issues are solved for most people they don’t make sense. The true cost for EV’s are too high and you must add in the cost for recharging whether or not its at you home. Never see real figures on those costs. The only concept I have seen for these issues of range /reharge time is the electrolyte refill/exchange technology. If it ever becomes realistic then EV’s make sense.

  5. Buzzerd Says:

    The Bosch technology is exactly why we need government regulations, with out the regulations much of this technology wouldn’t exist because there would be not need.

  6. Barry T Says:

    John, You have been a clear and lucid presenter of the various “emissions” issues, but today’s show clarifying gas vs diesel vs electric might be your best yet. It has always bothered me to see “ZERO EMISSIONS” tags on EVs, to the point of thinking maybe it’s even illegal or false advertising! How about “Remote Emissions” until we can get the overall rating system we need?

    ALSO – you and your team killed it with Sandy Munro, congrats. I even went back and watched most of the show a second time, it was so enjoyable.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I watched the entire Sandy Munro After Hours show, and it was great. I can’t get over how enthused Munro was about the Tesla circuit board. I have a question, though. What is all of that stuff for? Is it the logic for “autopilot”? That looks like an awful lot of electronics, just to manage power and regenerative breaking for a pure electric car. It looks like a lot, even for a hybrid, which needs much more complex controls than a pure EV.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    We need EV’s that get their power from overhead wires, rather than from expensive, heavy, limited-lifetime batteries. I remember buses in Indianapolis when I was a kid that worked that way. Of course, electric trains with overhead wires are still used, and the power infrastructure is much simpler for trains.

  9. G.A.Branigan Says:

    @ #3: I agree with what you say but wasn’t Bosch told by VW to do what they did? I seem to remember the blame ended up on the suits at vw,but maybe I’m wrong. As for their new system developments,I’m all in,IF it isn’t another dog and pony show by the Germans.

  10. George Ricci Says:

    The phrase Zero Emissions Vehicle (ZEV) was created by California Air Resources Board (CARB). They use the phrase ZEV for electric and hydrogen vehicles. 95% of all the hydrogen made in the US is made from burning fossil fuels. So I agree with you that it is unethical to call them zero emission vehicles. Unfortunately this government agency is using tax payer money to deceive us and additional 13 states follow CARB – Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington, as well as the District of Columbia.

  11. Jim Says:

    Hey John, are you sure the newly redesigned Lexus ES350 won’t be available until Sept 2019 as you stated in today’s broadcast? I understood they would be available this Fall.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 California’s push for EV’s is mainly about the desire to clean up the air in big metro areas, which EV’s do, but by exporting the emissions.

    I fully agree with John, though, that it would be nice to know the entire greenhouse gas footprint of vehicles, including fuel use, manufacturing, recycling, etc. Heck, I might drive a Cruze or Civic hatch, rather than a Prius, if the Civic and Cruze were more environmentally friendly, overall.

    Of course, getting more information is not going to happen in today’s USA, when regulations are being eliminated, rather than added. At least the feds aren’t going to bring us such information in the next ~3 years. Maybe California, or the EU will compile information about the real environment impact of making batteries and motors, producing electricity, transmitting electricity, etc.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The nose of the new ES looks better than most applications of the Lexus spindle, at least to me.

  14. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Seems like Cadillac is catching up: I see that Spring Hill (that builds XT5 and Acadia) is adding a third shift beginning in September. With the XT4 on the way, and a recently seen XT6 (spyshot) wringing in another SUV, Cadillac’s portfolio should be pretty well represented. Johan’s demise might make his legacy look a lot better than his abrupt leaving did. Personally I think he was on the right track (but short-sighted GM execs throw the baby out with the bath water again).

  15. Dave Thompson Says:

    Perhaps the Bosch injectors can go into diesel ships & locomotives which emit far more emissions than automobiles

  16. John McElroy Says:

    #3 and #9. If you go to the transcript of today’s show and click on the headline to the Bosch story, it will take you to their press release, which addresses real world driving emissions. Also, Bosch issued a new code of ethics that prohibits employees from developing software that can detect when it’s being tested. Your concerns are legitimate, but it sure looks like Bosch is making up for past sins.

  17. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I don’t know about locomotives but diesel ships don’t use the diesel fuel that cars/trucks use. These big diesels use bunker fuel, which is just about one step away from tar (nasty stuff). Well maybe not all, but some do.

  18. martin Says:

    Uh BMW? Hi, yeah, you might want to send someone out to take a look at the front of ANY KIA before you commit to that new grille design. Sorry, I don’t like it at all, The kidneys are sacred, just like the hoffmeister kink, hopefully you’re not planning to do away with that too….

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Maybe Johan’s replacement will bring back some names for the cars, like Sedan de Ville for the CT6, Seville for the CTS, and Cimarron for the ATS. Just kidding about Cimarron, but why not to other two? As far as the crossovers, maybe the XT thing needs to stay. There are few well known Cadillac legacy names, and they were used on cars, not tall wagons. Eldorado might be a good name for a mid-size or large coupe, if they made one. Maybe Fleetwood would sort of work, for a large CUV.

  20. Wim van Acker Says:

    @16: exactly. Large vessels use Bunker C oil. it is virtually solid at room temperature and has to be pre-heated to 220-260 F before fuel injection into the cylinders.

  21. Wim van Acker Says:

    @16,19: the only fraction heavier than Bunker C Fuel Oil ends up on your driveway or on roads.

  22. MARK TILTON Says:

    I think Bosch had the last big break thru— in DEISELS and heading for the Big House with the VW CRIMINALS !!!

  23. JWH Says:

    #8 – Detroit (actually South East Michigan) used to have a fairly expansive trolley fleet – While it was gone when I came here in 1966, I’ve been told it used to run to Ann Arbor & even Flint. Guess who managed to submarine electric trolleys since they sold & profited on buses at the time? – GM of course. Fairly expensive to build such infrastructure again.

    EV’s – Totally agree that Zero emission classification for these is terrible & of course a lie. Maybe if I had my own windmill or solar panels – Obviously would need to factor fixed costs into the equation.

  24. Len Simpson Says:

    Again, & again, I believe this is the perfect compromise https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/nissan-e-power-combines-gas-and-electric-but-not-like-a-typical-hybrid/

  25. Anthony Parisio Says:

    John,
    Lets us also include the Co2 created in the mining, refining and transport of the fuel for a car. This metric is a real number few seem to account for in the carbon footprint of a car.

    Also why does no one mention the carcinogens that are the particulates in the exhaust of gas and diesel cars? Benzene is known to cause leukemia. Co2 is not the only problem caused by combustion cars.

  26. Bob Wilson Says:

    The only green I care about is what I use to drive my car. To believe rattling a “CO{2}” voodoo doll will drive off EV buyers is wishful thinking.

    California is trying to avoid air fouled by carcinogen coated particulates, lung eating NOx, and fuel vapor hydrocarbons. They also realize the best fuel is the one not burned in their air. Now if they can just get a handle on wild fires.