AD #2455 – Volvo S60/V60 Impressions, NHTSA OKs Adaptive Beam Headlights, Rinspeed Shows Off microSNAP

October 12th, 2018 at 11:34am

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Runtime: 8:42

0:28 NHTSA OKs Adaptive Beam Headlights
1:02 Full Tesla EV Credit Still Available…For Now
2:15 Volvo S60/V60 Impressions
4:01 Rinspeed Shows Off microSNAP
5:06 GM Using 3D Printers on Factory Floor

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26 Comments to “AD #2455 – Volvo S60/V60 Impressions, NHTSA OKs Adaptive Beam Headlights, Rinspeed Shows Off microSNAP”

  1. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Adaptive Beam Headlights sounds good but with some lighting systems already costing in and around a thousand dollars (extra) I fear that these systems will just be for the high-end buyers, at least initially. Good headlights need to be for everyone.

  2. Cozy200 Says:

    Daytime runnings for all vehicles. Such a simple item

  3. MERKUR DRIVER Says:

    I forsee the day when there is a camera fault, sensor fault, or some other electrical fault where the owner won’t or can’t spend the cash to fix causing the adaptive lights to stay in high beam mode. That will be fun for everyone. Even with manual switches I see people every day running with high beams on all the time which is very unpleasant.

  4. Bob Wilson Says:

    Damn, I saw a local Ford dealer ad on TV this morning. G*d damn, there was a GM ad too. So our new style guide is to curse when a car maker tries to increase sales?

    Perhaps we should find something better than “damn” to express grudging astonishment.

  5. Drew Says:

    I’m very curious. Tesla says they can deliver a car before the end of this CY if it is ordered this week. Does this mean they have already built the hundreds of thousands pre-ordered Model 3s, including the $35k entry model variants? In other words, what has happened to all those pre-orders? A cynical person would theorize the $35k units aren’t profitable enough to build, and Elon would rather recruit new, more profitable configurations/orders while holding on to the (over 1 year old) $1000 deposits from each of the $35k orders. This can add up to tens of millions of dollars. How can Elon get away with this?

  6. Brett Cammack Says:

    It has been explained by Tesla that they cannot built the “cheap” Model 3s immediately or they will go broke. They have to make/sell the more expensive Model 3s to cover the initial production nut and get their economies of scale in play.

    So, if you order one of the expensive ones that they’re building now, they can probably built it for you by year-end. One of the “cheap” ones? Well, you’re going to have wait until the business case is made for them.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    When I checked the Tesla web site a week or so ago, it said you could get the $50K rwd long range Model 3 in 4 weeks.

  8. Drew Says:

    Tesla is being very disingenuous if they are holding well-aged $1000 deposits on the lower content/price models, but not building them and prioritizing the build of Johnny-Come-Lately higher content/price recent orders. I can easily imagine a non-political state AG taking legal action against Tesla.

  9. Bob Wilson Says:

    I visited the Nashville Tesla store in September to see all of the unsold Teslas only there weren’t any. The sales rep told me they could get one in 4 weeks. Apparently there are some ‘standard’ configs they can build and deliver rapidly.

    The $1000 deposit is refundable and the EV market is ‘flooded’ with Tesla competition. No deposit is being held hostage and there has already been one Model 3 suit dismissed.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    From the web site, you can get an RWD long range Medel 3 in 4 weeks. The options are color; all except black cost extra, and the two levels of “autopilot.” The second level doesn’t exist yet, but it’s cheaper if you pre-buy it. You can order two different 4wd versions, but they take longer to get. The cheapest 3 you can order now is $50K in basic black, with no options.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I found that the way $35K becomes $50K minimum is, $9K for long range battery, and $5K for “premium” interior. The latter includes vinyl rather than cloth seats, power seats, and some other things. The $1200 destination charge makes it $50.2K.

  12. Larry D. Says:

    And when you thought the beaches are safe again…

    it has been a year since I heard any hype about the stupid 3-d printers, but my luck runneth out today. If GM thinks that by that gimmick it will become competitive and solve any of its serious problems (but not as bad as Ford’s), it has another thing coming. Oh, and wake me up when I can buy a 3-d printer that can print me another 3-d printer! (why not?)

    AAH this week was 100% unwatchable for me, the snake oil salesmen from Ford were there the whole time, unlike the usual format, half our for the guests to peddle their stuff and a half hour of serious discussion among the regulars, which I would watch.

    In other news

    Another VOLVO????? It is such a JOKE! The chinese owned outfit makes like 100 models, and every month in the US market it never sells more than 9,000 (at best!). the AWESOME TESLA with just THREE models sells 30,000 (or at least 21,700, last month), and I bet their average transaction price is WAY higher than the almost-luxury VOlvo 4 cylinder Coffeemakers.

    So, it would be nice that the new models tauted here had some proportionality with the importance of their makers in the US market, and VOlvo today is UTTERLY unimportant, It may sell less units than even LINCOLN!

  13. Larry D. Says:

    I subscribe to a few mags via my frequent flyer account, so I just pay $2 a year each for Car and Driver, Road and Track, and Popular Mechanics, whose latest issue I got yesterday.

    I went on the web to find a link to the articles but the site, even using its search feature, did not produce any. PM site is open, you don’t need a subscription.

    This latest issue had a section named “In Defense of Elon Musk” (not that he needs any, I add here), written by several authors and spanning his huge array of businesses, just ONE of which is Tesla Motors.

    It starts on p 68., ending with “We need people who have IDEAS. We need people who take RISKS. We need people who TRY.”

    Then a section “I want to go to Mars” (I don’t so I did not read it yet) and 2 other articles about SpaceX (which I am impressed with), and finally

    the first one about the Tesla S titled “…HE REDEFINES AMBITION”, noting that last year the Tesla S ALONE sold more units in the USA than ” ..the S class, the Panamera AND the A8, COMBINED. Are we taking Elon Musk seriously yet?”

    The auto critic who writes in PM is Ezra Dyer, well known and respected. Musk hired designer FRANZ VON HOLZHAUSEN from Mazda, where he did not achieve the stellar success he found in this (then) unknown upstart TESLA.

    and many more articles and opinion pieces, that the Tesla Critics would sure enjoy reading. Go to your local public library for a free read.

  14. Chuck Grenci Says:

    12, I agree that the AAH this week (the Ford Edge and ST) was a infomercial. Helpful if you wanted to learn about the new model but not a typical AAH with interactive and current automotive industry discussion.

    However disagree that a 3-D printer, closely integrated on the assembly line, couldn’t be helpful in on-the-run corrections, which would certainly be timely (as the speaker described).

  15. Larry D. Says:

    Now y’all eat your spinach, so when you grow up you can, too become the Global Director of Manufacturing Integration at General Motors, like Dan Grieshaber.

  16. Larry D. Says:

    14 I don’t think you really disagree with my exact phrasing of my comment re the hype about the 3d printers solving GM’s problems. It may help, but is it worth another full half hour ATW show? I think not.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    12 3D printing is very useful for making a few parts, especially parts with complex shapes. It’s easy, and cheap with many kinds of plastic. 3D printing can be done with metals, but I haven’t been involved with that.

    For high volume parts, I don’t see how it makes sense, at least in its present form.

  18. Larry D. Says:

    The OLD GM stood for “General Motors”. What does the “NEW GM” stand for? “Generally Mediocre”? “Generally Meh?”

    With very few interesting exceptions (like the Corvette), name ONE of the 100 GM models that is a really “GOT TO HAVE IT” model, and for which, IF they had it, they would charge an arm and a leg?

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    A lot of GM vehicles are competitive in their classes, but yeah, Corvette, and properly equipped, Camaro are the only GM products that are “exciting.” I like some of the Cadillacs, but as has been discussed here, they are priced with the Germans, but they need to be priced lower.

    As far as GOT TO HAVE IT, though, how many Hondas, Nissans, or Toyotas fall into that catagory?

  20. BobD Says:

    On the promise of the $35k Model 3… That was really a $27.5k EV after the federal tax credit. With the tax credit is being phased out, the promise of a cheap Tesla EV is gone. And for Telsa to promote that time is running out, you better step up and buy the $50k version to get the full tax credit, that is really disingenuous. My guess is that some of the $35k hold-outs will order the more expensive version, but many others will say, enough is enough, and ask for their deposit back. I think 2019 will not be kind to Tesla as production will exceed demand.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    I was looking at the rest of that issue of Pop mechanics and it has a ton more of “driven” stuff. There is an unsigned paragraph of the new Lexus LS500 which does NOT have the old 5 lt V8 but a 3.5 6, (the anonymoys writer bitches a little about this) and does not look as good as the previous LS460 before the spindle grille, but the writer claims that “as always, the LS makes you feel like you are driving a car that costs about five times as much”. Given the base price of the LS500 is $75,995, so at least $80 with options, this makes the other car worth $400,000. This is MORE expensive than not just any S class or 7 series or Bentley, it is even more expensive than ANY ROLLS except the top model PHANTOM.

    So is this poetic license, or is the writer as weak in 1st grade arithmetic as some of the grad students at our top Universities?

  22. Larry D. Says:

    I wrote this comment but it was not published, and when i resubmitted it it said”duplicate comment”.

    I was looking at the rest of that issue of Pop mechanics and it has a ton more of “driven” stuff. There is an unsigned paragraph of the new Lexus LS500 which does NOT have the old 5 lt V8 but a 3.5 6, (the anonymoys writer bitches a little about this) and does not look as good as the previous LS460 before the spindle grille, but the writer claims that “as always, the LS makes you feel like you are driving a car that costs about five times as much”. Given the base price of the LS500 is $75,995, so at least $80 with options, this makes the other car worth $400,000. This is MORE expensive than not just any S class or 7 series or Bentley, it is even more expensive than ANY ROLLS except the top model PHANTOM.

    So is this poetic license, or is the writer as weak in 1st grade arithmetic as some of the grad students at our top Universities?

  23. Chuck Grenci Says:

    20, Bob, I think you are on to something. While we won’t know the fall-out of manufacturer’s approaching that magic 200,000 where their credits are at an end, it will be interesting to see if the credits are re-instated, raised or number increased to a higher level. The push continues for the ‘EV’ but the take rate is still relatively low. We’ll probably see other legislation to try to bolster ev or ev enhanced vehicles, i.e., eventual higher fuel standard, perhaps stricter tailpipe emissions or other nefarious guidelines/restrictions.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’d be surprised if any EV incentives are re-instated or extended with our current leaders, except maybe in locations where all of the electricity comes from burning coal.

    On a more serious note, I don’t know that the rebates SHOULD be re-instated. Most of the people using them don’t need the tax rebates. If you are spending $50K and up for what is, in most cases, a second car, you probably don’t need the rebate, and that money could be used to fix bridges, or reduce the deficit. Also, if I understand them correctly, you need to have $7500/year income tax to even use the entire credit.

  25. Chuck Grenci Says:

    22, I also agree with those statements; EV’s will take off when the main stream buyer can afford them which means when batteries are economical enough to compete with ICE.

  26. FSTFWRD Says:

    @22,23. +++ I agree.

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