AD #2521 – Ford Uses VR In Design Process, VW #1 Automaker in The World, F&I Sales Up Last Year

January 30th, 2019 at 11:56am

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Runtime: 7:03

0:28 VW #1 Automaker in The World
1:10 Julia Steyn Leaves GM
1:29 Upcoming Auto Show Teases
2:14 Breaking Down Bosch
3:25 F&I Sales Up Last Year
4:39 Ford Makes Largest 3D Printed Metal Part
5:05 Ford Uses VR In Design Process

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26 Comments to “AD #2521 – Ford Uses VR In Design Process, VW #1 Automaker in The World, F&I Sales Up Last Year”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Adding Mitsubishi to the Renault-Nissan alliance helps them with bragging rights for number of cars produced. Mitsubishi actually sell quite a few cars, 1.55M/year globally, ~40% more than Subaru, just not very many in the U.S.

  2. GM Veteran Says:

    Many automakers have taken stakes in other automakers as they pursue joint projects or savings through cooperative non-product ventures. However, their sales are not reported as a combined figure. Even though Mr. Ghosn has made much press over the years about his Alliance, I don’t see the justification for reporting the combined sales of Renault and Nissan. Since Nissan owns 100% of Mitsubishi, their combined sales makes sense. The Alliance should not be treated as one automaker and should not be counted in the top three or four for total sales until they truly merge into one company.

  3. Barry Says:

    Thanks to everyone at Autoline for braving the cold to produce today’s program! It’s greatly appreciated.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2 Nissan owns only 34% of Mitsubishi Motors, but has controlling interest.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    How do today’s cars with “push button start” behave in extremely cold weather? Do they crank until the battery runs down, if it’s 30 below, and they don’t start? I haven’t experienced one of these “modern” cars in below zero temps, since I’ve been spending winters in Florida since I’ve had any cars without completely manual starter operation.

  6. Lambo2015 Says:

    #5 Certainly your joking Kit; todays cars have little problem starting in the extreme cold as they did in many years past. This mornings temp was -11 with windchills in -30+ range. My Ram sat out all night and I used the remote start without any problem. Not sure if a push button start will crank beyond the initial attempt unless your holding the button down.

  7. GM Veteran Says:

    Kit, thanks for the clarification on Mitsu ownership. It actually makes my case stronger.

    Regarding the push button start, I have experience with three different vehicles with push button start. In each vehicle, the starter only operates as long as you have your finger on the Start button, similar to what happens when you hold the key in the Start position on an “old fashioned” vehicle like my 2013 Sierra. Only -8 degrees this morning at 7:00 am. No wind so it actually felt warmer than yesterday’s 15 above!

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    The F&I sales should be up as those extended warranties sound like a great deal as they are presented. They make them sound like you get so much for a chunk of money that reduces the longer you negotiate. Friend of mine was buying a new Grand Cherokee and the extended warranty started at $3500, when I pointed out that everything on the warranty was already covered for the 3 year 36k miles so they really was only covering the car for 2 more years the price dropped to 2500. Then added that towing and rental was covered by insurance for an extra $3 a month the price dropped to $1500.
    She ended up buying it at that point but I felt bad for anyone who just paid the $3500.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6 The push button start on my MINI and Corvette do the same when you push the button, as your truck would with remote start, they crank until the engine starts with a single, brief push of the button. In “normal” temperatures, they start with very little cranking, but in International Falls Minnesota, when it’s -40, that might not be the case.

    7, GM Veteran, all of the vehicles I’ve had with push button start crank until the engine starts, rather than the button working like “crank” position with a key on an older car. I had one car, a 2006 Malibu Maxx that did that with the key. One quick twist of the key made it crank until it started.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    8 I’ve never bought an extended warranty, but I get a lot of direct mail trying to sell them to me, including for cars I haven’t owned in years. One thing common to these mailings, is that there is no way to get a price without calling, and no doubt being given a high pressure sales pitch. If the mailing shows a web site at all, it is not possible to get a quote through the web site.

    Extended warranties on cars must be a very profitable thing, like paying $150 for a 4 year warranty on a $1000 TV that isn’t likely to fail, and if it does, the failure will probably occur during the factory warranty. No wonder dealers want to get heavier in that business, as other service work declines.

  11. ArtG Says:

    5. In my Lincoln MKZ, you can crank the starter for a total of 60 seconds. It doesn’t have to be for 60 seconds straight. Any combination of 60 seconds without starting will disable the starter for 15 minutes. After that, you’re limited to 15 seconds crank time for 60 minutes.

    Other than that, it’s like any other car.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 Does it normally crank until it starts with a short push of the button or key twist, or does it crank only while you hold the button/key?

  13. Dan Says:

    Still don’t understand the thinking of moving the Detroit International Auto Show from January to June. Since manufactures tend to release new vehicle models in the last quarter of the year, does that mean a June auto show will be full of last years models and nothing new premiering?

  14. ArtG Says:

    Kit- Yes. A brief push of the button. No need to hold it.

  15. buzzerd Says:

    Wife’s cruze has been starting no problem, was -26C during the day here. Remember wind chill doesn’t really matter for this discussion. Wind chill is kind of just a rate of cooling.

  16. ChuckGrenci Says:

    All my GM vehicles with push button start only required one quick stab at the button to initiate the the starting sequence. I did have a nostart on my STS once, and if I remember correctly, the starter stopped after about 5 seconds (but it did stop trying, of that I am sure).

  17. buzzerd Says:

    Normally if your car won’t start in the cold it’s because of a weak battery which would stop the vehicle from turning over much anyhoo.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I remember a no-start with my 1984 Pontiac Sunbird, using the “official” starting instructions, which were to crank without touching the gas pedal. It was about -10, and it fired a little, early on, but then quit firing, and got badly flooded. I’m pretty sure it would have started, had I stepped on the gas a little when it tried to start the first few seconds of cranking. It had throttle body injection. They’ve come a long way since then.

  19. WineGeek Says:

    That Skoda CUV reminds me of BMW for sure

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    When VW bought Skoda, I thought it might be just to gain easy access to the emerging Eastern European market, and they might drop the brand after a while, but it seems to be working for them.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    -17 F this morning when i arrived at my office, and much worse windchill-wise. The 12 year old Merc diesel started right away on the first try, to my great relief. The worst is over for this cold, when I drive home I expect it to be 0 F or so, or – 10 with windchill, and then it will be ridiculously warm (rain on sat!) I wonder if the battery is the original 2007 or was purchased later, but before 2016. I had it free tested at O Reilly’s last winter and they said it was OK but needed some more juice.

    To be safe, I did not use the seat heater even at the lowest of 3 settings, and no heat until the windows fogged inside and I turned on the A/C

    I wore the same light clothes I wear in winter every day (leather jacket, shirt, cord pants, short boots, thin gloves (isotoner), with the exc of a hat I wore the last 2 days, but the face was still uncovered, if I covered that it would be quite tolerable, but it was exposed (painful).

    This was the coldest since 1874. 140 years +! Chicago beat Antarctica. Climate Scientist Al Gore (a Nobel winner no less) declined to comment.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    21 Do you need to wait a few seconds for glow plugs to heat in the cylinders before cranking your engine? When I had my diesel VW, I never started it in extremely cold weather, but I think the manual said to wait a certain length of time before cranking the engine when it’s cold, or maybe there was an indicator light to tell you.

    It is highly unlikely that you have the original battery, at least from my experience. The battery in my 2010 Mini lasted 8 years, but that is the longest I’ve had a battery last.

    Maybe Al Gore should have commented. While the MI and IN temps were well below normal, the temperature at the south pole is about 60-70 degrees above normal.

  23. Larry D. Says:

    22 I do not remember any such advice in the manual, however I have not consulted the 700 page opus (which the dealer also provides in convenient PDF form when I am away from the car). In the morning I start it from the closed garage, where I put the car in the colder days of the winter.

    In the 740iL I bought in 2005, it had the original 1998 battery and it worked fine until Feb 2008 when it refused to start one morning I wanted to drive to Wash DC, and had to take the old 1990 Accord 5-sp coupe instead. (the 740 was ideal for long trips, and excellent around town too, except for the MPG which I could care less about). On my return I took it to a shop to check the battery, they charged me an hour labor to see if there was any power losses, could not find any, then gave me a new battery which, I learned only in 2015, was not the right one for that big car, and resulted in all kinds of winter inconveniences, having to jump start it several times, with friends or wasting AAA Calls. Finally I replaced it again at O Reilly’s who gave me the right battery and this was the end of any starting troubles for that car. I did not go to that Euro something independent mechanic again, it was recommended to me. There was no satisfactory BMW mechanic in town, even including the dealer, who sometimes had smart mechanics and sometimes not.

    My heart goes out to the South Pole whose temp is about 60-70 degrees above the -200 it should be. Al Gore should keep his mouth shut indefinitely, he is NOT a Scientist, but he plays one on TV. He did very well getting into this racket.

    For anybody who knows anything about science, it is AMAZING to see how they treat this as if it was a popularity contest. they speak of a “consensus” of scientists as if this is how scientific issues are resolved. When Galileo argued that the Earth moves around the Sun and not vice versa, he was the ONLY one to claim so, at risk of being burned at the stake, and the “consensus” of the scientists was the opposite.

    The Global Warming crowd (which has renamed itself the “climate change” crowd is anything but scientific. It assumes that ALL the change is due to Human Activity, and it does not even ask if this tiny temp rise of 0.5 degrees C is a bad thing. What if we are before the next ice age? it ALSO points the finger at the WRONG people, it accuses the industrial nations of being guilty of the ‘change’ while in truth it could be easily reversed if only the worst polluters on the Earth, India and like nations, who emit horrendous gases, would do what CHina did to control and reduce their HUGE populations.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’m inclined to believe scientists who say there is global warming/climate change going on, caused by human activity, and it’s not a good thing, at least as quickly as it is happening. I won’t be around long enough to see my home town in Florida depopulated because of sea level rise, but today’s children may be. I agree that Al Gore is not a scientist.

  25. Larry D. Says:

    I listened to the morning 5 min video from Autonews and I don’t know how i missed it, they mentioned Tesla made $152 mill in Q4, if i remember well, and Musk stated he expects a profit in every Q in 2019, which sounds much better than his December statement that they would lose $ in Qs where they had loan repayments.

    More important to me than these modest profits is that he also stated that Model 3 production will be at 7,000 units a week. This is HUGE for a vehicle in this price range, where the most successful rival, the 3 Series, sells this kind of units in a MONTH.

    there seems to be a misconception that once the Model 3 demand is satisfied, Tesla production will plummet. The 3 is an important model, but not the only ace up Tesla’s sleeve.

    Their first entry into Crossover territory is with the model Y (WHY?), I believe, where again they follow the same correct marketing strategy, introducing the bigger and more expensive 3 row version first, to satisfy those willing to pay a lot, and later offering more affordable versions and smaller ones too.

    January Sales tomorrow should suffer because the extreme cold affected 80 mill people in the Midwest. I did not go to any shop despite my employer closing down for yesterday and today, did not want to risk too many starts in extreme cold weather and drain the battery.

    Back to the sales, they will suffer in the Midwest, so logically Tesla, whose big sales states are CA (half its sales) and other warmer weather states like TX and FL, will not be hurt, and consequently should have a big meaty share of the sales pie for Jan 19. (even meatier than it had in Dec and before)

  26. Larry D. Says:

    25 Correction the Q4 profits were $139.5 mill and not $152 mill as I wrote from memory.