AD #2539 – Peugeot Shows Off New 208, BMW Makes Vehicle Interaction Easier, Lexus Hits Big Milestone

February 25th, 2019 at 11:41am

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0:07 BMW And Daimler Partner on Mobility
1:02 GM to Continue Making Impala and CT6
1:39 Lexus Hits Big Milestone
2:20 Peugeot Shows Off New 208
3:19 BMW Makes Vehicle Interaction Easier
4:20 How to Make an Electric Hot Rod

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35 Comments to “AD #2539 – Peugeot Shows Off New 208, BMW Makes Vehicle Interaction Easier, Lexus Hits Big Milestone”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    BMW and Diamler throw even more money at autonomous ride sharing. It still amazes me how much money is being thrown at these two concepts that will never work globally. Autonomy and ride sharing will most likely never expand beyond major cities that are in perfect climate conditions.

    Maybe I just like simplicity in my vehicles but the BMW interaction is not anything I would be interested in having. Sounds like a solution to question that no one asked for.

  2. ChuckGrenci Says:

    In addition to the delayed closing of GM’s Detroit-Hamtramck plant, and according to an article at the GM Authority site, more than the initial 275 CT6-V’s will be produced for the ’19 model year. Also announced, according to that article, a second generation CT6 is also in the works.

    Hey Peugeot’s 208; I don’t hate it (at least it looks good). IMO

    I really didn’t care much for when the automobile started talking to the driver (via voice; I think that started sometime in the ’80′s) and fortunately that mostly went away; and I certainly don’t want to talk to my car either (give me a button please). If I’m seen talking to someone/something while driving alone, I fear that my sanity, which may already be subject to scrutiny, would be confirmed as a no-doubt reality (that I’ve lost it).

  3. Albemarle Says:

    I have enough problems with our cars asking what we want when we’re just having a conversation. Imagine how annoying it would be to have it also interpreting simple hand gestures! Reaching for your coffee gets a lecture on the history of the coffee bean. Turn right at this corner would make a restaurant reservation for the six people in the car.

  4. Drew Says:

    That BMW interaction might sound like great technology, but if it is anything like Alexa, it will be subject to misinterpretations. Automotive misinterpretations can be very distracting while driving… and can be potentially dangerous.

  5. Phred Says:

    The real Hot Rod question is “can or how” do I mate an auxiliary electric system “hybrid” for fast burn outs and quarter mile type speed burst!

  6. Lambo2015 Says:

    #5 Find any youtube videos on how to tub a Tesla S? At some point your limited to tire adhesion.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It is apparently pretty easy to make an electric hot rod, if you don’t need to go very far. There were very quick electric dragsters a decade or so ago.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’d think it would be hard to maintain quality in a plant like Detroit-Hamtramck, where the employees know they will get the axe in a few months. I wouldn’t think morale would be too high.

  9. Buzzerd Says:

    Generally I just need machines to do what I tell, most of the time when they start guessing or ” interpreting ” my commands swearing follows.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The first “talking cars” I remember, were Chrysler K cars, maybe just the fancier versions. No one liked it then, and probably very few people like it now. I don’t use voice recognition either, even though, from what I’ve heard, it works pretty well in Corvettes like mine.

  11. merv Says:

    electric hot rods,not quite main stream yet but i’m sure soon. an e copo camaro is currently running in the 9′s which i find pretty impressive

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Electric cars are ideal for impressive 0-60 times. You have instant response, and 4wd, good for quick standing start acceleration, is simple to do, with a motor for each axle, or even a motor for each wheel. Also, since electric motors have maximum torque at zero rpm, you don’t need a shifting transmission, saving milliseconds wasted while a conventional transmission shifts. Of course, if you do many of those sub 4 second 0-60 runs, you will quickly run out of battery, and not be able to go very far.

  13. Larry D. Says:

    12 Drag races and jack rabbit starts are usually a quarter mile or so long. It is completely unrealistic to assume that anybody on this planet who goes on a 500 mile trip would want to do it in 1/4 mile drag races, where battery would be an issue.

  14. Larry D. Says:

    2 “..If I’m seen talking to someone/something while driving alone, I fear that my sanity..”

    That was my first reaction when I first saw some young guy in a suit walking down the street, gesticulating like a lunatic and talking into the air, to apparently nobody, not even into his cellphone, to later realize he had one of these little horn like devices up his ear and was talking to a tiny mike near his mouth.

    A comedian once commented why God is not talking to people any more, like he or she did in the old times (“Abraham! Get your skinny ass off your couch, take your son to the forest and slaughter him for me, would you?”), and then concluded that maybe he still does, to all those people walking down the street gesticulating and talking back to nobody in particular)

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 No argument here. If I had a Model 3 performance, I would “get on it” occasionally for fun, maybe the most fun would be staying with a Z06 Corvette up any remotely legal speed, but driving “for range” most of the time.

    If you use the performance for an extended time, like on a track, you might need a long break before driving home. R and T did a track test with a Model 3 performance, and got about 1/6 the normal range, when doing laps on the track.

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    #8 The quality systems that are used today provide a much better handle on what is going on out on the manufacturing floor. Besides the fact that many of the GM workers in Hamtramck will most likely have the option to transfer to another GM plant if they actually close their plant. I still believe they will use this closure to negotiate with the UAW and may still keep the plant open. They dumped a ton of cash into that plant during the Volt launch. So sure they might have a few folks who no longer care but most may stay with the company even if the plant closes.

  17. Lambo2015 Says:

    15 That 1/6 is a pretty high loss considering the ICE cars probably only lose 1/2 their range with track testing. Did they state a fair comparison?

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #17 Here is the article:

    I found a discussion about track day mpg on Corvette forums, and most people seemed to be getting about 4 mpg, so that would be about 1/6 of what I get in normal mixed driving. One guy on the forum say he got on 2 mpg with a Z06, but on a track where he reached 150 mph. Others on the forum thought there was something wrong with the car that got only 2 mpg.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Here’s the Corvette track day mpg discussion:

  20. David Sprowl Says:

    I have 3 GM vehicles with voice tech. All three of them need drastic improvement.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    Another case study for your Automotive Failure 101 course.

    At first I thought this would compete for the sizeable livery market, dominated by the Lincoln Town Car not long ago. But not at… $133,000 a piece. I’d rather have a S class 600 with 600 hp and 750 lbft torque. Seriously.

  22. ChuckGrenci Says:

    The first sentence of the article was a little funny in my mind: Hyundai has Mercedes in it’s crosshair; well maybe, but it is a thousand yard shot and their gun isn’t sited in by my evaluation. Opulent interior maybe but still not ready for prime time in my opinion. I will give it to Hyundai though, their efforts are grand and they do make some ‘hits’, so the automotive world better watch out; but not just yet (on this one).

  23. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Change Mercedes to German and sited in to sighted in. Sorry, my bad (AND NO EDIT AVAILABLE).

  24. Larry D. Says:

    22, 23 they keep trying, and losing billions while at it, the Koreans. Not even Lexus, quite a successful luxury car maker, has ever attempted such an expensive limo.

    And a major fault of Hyundai is they keep changing their logos and symbols for their brands. This limo has, yet again, changed the Genesis Grille to one with a bent lower line.

    The Hyundai Logo looks like a variation of the Honda “H”. The grilles keep changing. THis is killing their cars re recognizability etc.

    They should look at the established automakers, Ford has the oval, GM the bowtie, Toyota the trademark circular logo, VW the initials, BMW the kidneys, Merc the three-pointed star and the radiator. Hyundai Kia have NOTHING, and they keep changing what little they have.

  25. Larry D. Says:

    Jerks will be inconsiderate jerks, even this Tesla X owner, who either is a terrible parker, or purposely blocked THREE superchargers so he can use one. Or both.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Even worse, I’ve heard about people parking Lincoln Navigators, etc. that way at charge stations.

  27. Larry D. Says:

    26 I hope these were not brand new top line $110k Navigators, and that they were fully insured, the ire of the people needing a charge might severely damage them

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    27 Yeah, my thought exactly

  29. Lambo2015 Says:

    24 Hyundai Kia have nothing because they are always too busy trying to copy other makers designs rather than establish their own identity. Its always changing depending on what maker they are trying to replicate.

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Kia has had a “signature” front end for a few years, but I saw a picture of the new Soul, which seems to have abandoned that look. Why?

  31. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Kia also tried the K900 (first intro’d as K9; ironic, as it was received as a dog). Wondering if Kia/Hyundai threw a couple darts, Genesis/K900, to see if one or both would stick; so far, neither but especially the K900 not making inroads.

  32. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The “canine thousand” name was panned by nearly everyone. What were they thinking?

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Well, “canine hundred”

  34. Larry D. Says:

    31 In my weekly Sunday visit to the public Library here I saw a car I had no clue what it was, largish, a bit like the Panamera, it took me a while to figure it was the Kia Stinger. The grille was a bit like a Kia, when i saw it I thought it must be one, still did not know which model.

    Hyundai and Kia have tried not 3 or 4 but maybe a dozen times.

    Hyundai 250 or sth.
    Hyundai Azera
    Hyundai Genesis
    Kia Stinger
    Kia 900

    I am sure I forget 6 more H-K attempts at luxury or near luxury cars.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Stinger is similar to G70, but is a liftback.