AD #2560 – Tesla Already Raises Model Y Prices, Order Pizza From Your Car, Fiesta & Focus Getting 48-Volt Hybrid System

March 26th, 2019 at 11:39am

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Runtime: 7:32

0:07 Tesla Raises Model Y Prices
1:44 Vehicle Sales Down in South America
2:25 Forecast Calls for March Slowdown
3:08 How GM’s Heritage Center Picks What Stays & Goes
5:31 Order Pizza Right From Your Car
6:20 Ford Fiesta & Focus Getting 48-Volt System

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31 Comments to “AD #2560 – Tesla Already Raises Model Y Prices, Order Pizza From Your Car, Fiesta & Focus Getting 48-Volt Hybrid System”

  1. Larry D. Says:

    I checked out the GM Heritage Center last week on the web and was disappointed to see it is not really a museum, there are no hours for individual public, but you can reserve the place for large groups (above 30 people if I remember well) at a cost of $10-15 a head.

    There is another very impressive collection about 90 min drive from here, Stahl’s collection, which is open to the public only Tuesdays 1-4 PM. (no admission price, donations)

  2. Larry D. Says:

    South Am sales, total of 580,000, but only for 2 months, so maybe 6 million a year. Still, all of SA is only 20% of what a good year in China sales is.

  3. Sean McElroy Says:

    @Larry D – I need to get to Stahl’s collection. I’ve heard the same as you say, that it’s impressive, but I’ve never been there.

    And if you haven’t had the chance or heard of the Gilmore Car Museum, it’s another great place in Michigan to check out. But make sure to carve out a lot of time. That place is huge.

  4. Larry D. Says:

    3 @ Sean, I saw a 22-min video of Stahl’s collection, there is a half-hour program on PBS where the host visits interesting sites in MI, and he was there earlier this winter (or maybe it was a rerun). Maybe it is on the PBS site. It airs Thursdays 8 or 8:30 PM. The cars were mostly US-made, and included some very ancient ones.

  5. Larry D. Says:

    4 I believe the program is called “Under the radar Michigan” and it’s at 8:30 PM each Thu.

  6. Larry D. Says:

    https://www.pbs.org/video/chesterfield-stahls-automotive-collection-eqehex/

    here is a short video. The collection includes memorabilia and music

  7. Larry D. Says:

    6 good video, just watched it. They are also open the 1st Saturday of each month from 11 AM to 4 PM. So Sat April 6 they are open.

  8. Drew Says:

    I have been to all three venues… Gilmore, Stahl’s, and GM Heritage Center. They are all worthy of any car enthusiast’s time. The Gilmore is a near religious experience.

    My bucket list includes three other venues… Peterson, LeMay, and Hershey… but attendance at all three is unlikely. Can anyone offer advice to help my prioritization effort?

  9. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Can I assume the South America numbers can maybe be tied to, in a word, Venezuela. They couldn’t have sold too many in that politically ravaged country. I wonder, if my guess is correct, what the actual environment (sales wise) that South America represents.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Speaking of car museums, another great one, less than 3 hours from Detroit, is the Auburn-Cord-Duesenberg museum in Auburn, Indiana.

    http://www.automobilemuseum.org

    Just the building, an art deco factory showroom is great.

  11. Larry D. Says:

    9 half of the South Am economy is Brazil, Ven is much smaller, even smaller than Argentina.

    8 I’ve been to Peterson (Petersen?)’s in LA when I lived in the LA area in summer 2003 for 7 weeks. Good collection, saw my first RR Phantom VII (the BMW one) there, plus lots of other RRs. Also saw Nethercutt collection, had some very luxurious floors with ultra-expensive cars from the 30s etc, and a much larger lot with many others, this was in Sylmar, I believe, where they grew olive trees earlier.

  12. Larry D. Says:

    Just checked out Gilmore, from April to Nov it’s $15 adults and $10 kids. 9-5 and 9-6 Sat. about 2 hrs west of Detr and another 2 east of Chicago. Was it worth it?

  13. Larry D. Says:

    10 yes, that’s a famous one and I have not seen it yet.

  14. Larry D. Says:

    8 it depends where you live. LeMay is in Seattle (Tacoma), Peterson and Nethercutt in LA (a 24 hour drive south from Seattle on I5).

    If you’re in the Midwest, it is easier to drive to Stahl’s, Gilmore and Cord-Duesy and see all of them, 1-2 hours drive each way.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Here is an list of passenger car sales by country, for 2017.

    https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/passenger_cars_sales/

    Interestingly, showing only ~6.1M for the US, it appears to list only actual cars, not SUVs, CUVs, and pickup trucks. Venezuela sold 4506, so there weren’t many cars sold there, even before things were as bad as now.

  16. MERKUR DRIVER Says:

    I love the Gilmore Car museum. I go to it a couple of times per year and can always see something different each visit. They place is enormous. Last year they were offering rides in their classic cars which was very special. They stated that they will be doing that again this year. I also have one of my cars stored there for the winter. Needless to say, I love that museum.

  17. Drew Says:

    @16 – The Gilmore cleanses my soul… as does nature’s beauty in Utah, Arizona and western Colorado.

    I have also been to the Auburn/Cord museum. Wonderful.

  18. Bobby T Says:

    Another museum in the area is the Studebaker Museum in South Bend. They’re in a new building since I visited several years ago. Good museum, but not on the caliber of the Gilmore or the ACD.

  19. Larry D. Says:

    From today’s “Top Gear”

    “The Tesla Model 3 outsold the BMW 3 Series, Mercedes-Benz C-Class and Audi A4 across Europe last month, according to new data from JATO. Twitter, prepare yourself.

    Yup, the new Model 3 sold 3,630 units in February, which was apparently more than The German Big Three did.

    It also topped the pure electric vehicle charts, outselling the Renault Zoe, Nissan Leaf, BMW i3 and Hyundai Kona.

    We’re told the sales of the Model 3 came mostly from private registrations rather than fleet.”

  20. Larry D. Says:

    19 if the European market did not sell more than 3,630 C class or A4 or 3 series (smaller cars are much more popular there than their bigger and more expensive siblings the E, 5 and A6 etc), then it must be in really bad shape.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    19, 20: A popular comment on the article says:

    “Funny enough they only started delivering the Model 3 around the middle of February. March will be way more crushing. Pent up or not – people will see them on the road and word of mouth will create a few questions to ask the incumbents.

    14 (up votes)
    •”

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    20 In Germany, the BMW 1, 2, and 5 all outsold the 3. I was a little surprised about that. This is 2018 data, so Tesla doesn’t show up.

    https://www.best-selling-cars.com/germany/2018-full-year-germany-best-selling-car-models/

  23. Larry D. Says:

    22 the 1 and 2 should outsell the 3 in Europe, they are smaller and more affordable. The 5 is a bit of a surprise, but the reason is that it is more popular than the 3 as a corporate “executive car”. Likewise the E and the A6, also used in Govt fleets (top officials get an S or an A8 or a 7) and a ton of taxis for the E

  24. Larry D. Says:

    ps 22 the Feb 19 data were not just for Germany, but for “Europe”! They seemed awfully low.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Neither the 3, nor the C, nor the A4 made the top 25 for all of Europe in 2018. Mostly smaller cars, from non-premium brands ruled. Only one model of any type from the “German Big Three,” actually the German Premium Three made the top 25, the Mercedes A-Class at #23. Do you know where the Tesla 3 ranked overall for last month in Europe? It will be interesting to see the numbers after it has been sold there for a while.

    https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2018-full-year-europe-best-selling-car-models-in-the-eu/

  26. Larry D. Says:

    25 of course, obviously they did not, they are not Corollas or Golfs! Did you really expect them to be best sellers? In the US market, likewise, nobody compares $100k Tesla S and Xs with.. Accords and Camrys, not even with E and A6, but with the flagship models, the S and the 7 and the A8, and the S destroyed them.

    All I got is that Top Gear article today. And the success of the 3 is despite it was sold only for the second half of Feb, as the comment said.

  27. Larry D. Says:

    25 How come the Corolla did not even make the Top 25? (they sell the Auris there which is a variation of the corolla) but the tiny Yaris did. The Golf dominates sales despite its higher price than the smaller Fiesta and the cheaper Renault Clio, but more interestingly, the VW Polo (which is the size of a 1988 Golf or more) was high up too. If you add the Skoda and Seat VW owned Golf and polo Variants, VW really dominates the Euro market.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    26 “of course, obviously they did not,” Whatever. I would have expected one or two “premium” cars to make the top 25, but they didn’t.

    27 I remember a time, maybe in the ’80s, that the top 5 or 6 brands in Europe were within a couple percentage points of market share. As I remember, VW, PSA, Renault, Ford, Opel/Vaushall, and maybe Fiat were pretty close, all around 10-12% For a number of years, though, VW has dominated overall in Europe, and probably in most individual countries. They “bought into” some of it with Skoda and Seat, but they would dominate, even without those brands.

  29. Larry D. Says:

    28 No, not “whatever”. Nobody in his or her right mind would expect a $50-60,000 car that went on sale just for two weeks in Feb 2019 in Europe to sell as much as the $20-$25,000 econoboxes everybody can afford there.

    Your top 25 list includes not only several poor quality cars from France and Italy, but also two (!!) cheap Romanian exports from Dacia, which makes very low-quality versions of Renaults. I assume the sales include poor Eastern Europe nations.

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    29 Whatever. I wasn’t talking about the Tesla 3. I was surprised that not even one “premium” car, like C-Class, A4, or any BMW made the top 25.

    I couldn’t find what all countries were including for that list, but yeah, it probably included some eastern countries. Dacia sells in western countries, though.

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Here’s some Euro data that includes both the countries counted, and February, 2019 sales numbers by brand and model.

    https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2019-february-europe-new-car-sales-market-analysis/