AD #2562 – Daimler & Geely Announce Smart JV, Kia Previews Future Design in Seoul, Viewer Feedback on Rivian

March 28th, 2019 at 11:33am

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Runtime: 6:27

0:07 Daimler & Geely Announce Smart JV
0:53 Ford to Exit Russian Car Market
1:27 VW In Talks for Stake in Ford’s Argo
2:12 Ford Makes It Easier to Find Used Vehicles
2:58 Kia Previews Future Design with New Concepts
3:59 Viewer Feedback on Rivian

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17 Comments to “AD #2562 – Daimler & Geely Announce Smart JV, Kia Previews Future Design in Seoul, Viewer Feedback on Rivian”

  1. Larry D. Says:

    We know that the “Dumb” (or “Dumbo”) Smart has been around for more than 20 years, and has bled Daimler Billions and billions. Yet it is still alive. Why? Only because of the monumental Ego of the econ and auto illiterates who champion it inside Daimler-Benz.

    Now it seems D-B has found an even bigger fool, GEELY, with deep pockets. They will lose still more billions. Maybe at the end they should learn some lesson from all these debacles, namely that you should leave Automotive design to the experts INSIDE Daimler-Benz and not be fooled by some cockamammy proposal from the late Hayek, the Swatch guy.

  2. ChuckGrenci Says:

    For the Formula 1 crowd: qualifying 11am’ish Saturday on ESPN2 and race 11am Sunday on ESPN2. This will be the Bahrain GP.

  3. Brett Cammack Says:

    That grill on the KIA “Masterpiece” is painfully garish and unattractive. Sort of like if Liberace designed an new grille for an H2 Hummer.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The smart makes more sense as an electric city commuter car, than as a slow, not particularly high mpg gas car. I don’t see how it makes sense to keep the smart name, though, even if there is a market for such cars in China, or elsewhere.

    2 The timing for watching the Bayrain F1 qualification and race is much more friendly for we in North America, than for the Australian race two weeks ago.

  5. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Maybe the Geely group are buying into the Smart for the structure and other dynamics; wasn’t the Smart exceptionally strong (cage wise). And I have to agree, that as an electric (in China), they just might have a more winning combination than the original mission Daimler embarked on earlier.

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Smart car was originally a Swatch idea, but they decided to stick with watches.

  7. w l simpson Says:

    Remember when “made in Japan” was a dirty word?
    Japanese products were NEVER as bad as China’s metal , no matter where you find it. Tested the little Buick made there, a tin lizzie.

  8. gary susie Says:


  9. ChuckGrenci Says:

    8, Yeah, but they could have an open coffin at the funeral; I don’t think a Smart could go that fast. ;) But point taken.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    A smart actually did pretty well in crash tests, but with the small crumple zone, and the light (compared to other cars) weight, it wouldn’t be very good in an actual crash with another vehicle.

    I read that they now have power steering standard, in an under 2000 pound rear engine, rear drive car. The one thing I liked about the one I drove a few years ago was the feel of the non-power steering. The single clutch automatic transmission stood out as annoying. It will be much better as an electric car.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 Little Buick? I guess you mean Envision, the only one made in China?

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 Envision is the only one made in China, and sold in the US, that is. The littler Buick Encore is from Korea.

  13. Larry D. Says:

    In the news today: A Tesla Supplier in Korea buys a shuttered GM plant there:

    Tesla supplier agrees to buy GM Korean plant for EV manufacturing

    “..A South Korean supplier of Tesla has agreed to buy a shuttered factory from General Motors’ local unit to start contract manufacturing of electric vehicles, possibly for the U.S. and Europe…”

  14. Larry D. Says:

    Is this the start of the demise of amateurs buying $60,000 pickups they never needed in the first place?

    It’s the Affordability, …!

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 I’m surprised no one, or apparently not many people mentioned that these huge pickups won’t fit in garages, won’t properly fit in parking spaces, and won’t get around corners very well on some city streets.

  16. ChuckGrenci Says:

    14, So they surveyed 1100 owners; what was the demographic? And, what did they sell last year; 5-6 million? Some of those generalizations may have some ‘grip’ but I’m not putting a lot of credence to this article either.

  17. Larry D. Says:

    The huge numbers of pickups sold in the US are utterly ridiculous. Only maybe 10% of their buyers really need a pickup for their farm or ranch. Our secretaries drive F150s and live in condos.

    If the 60s muscle cars became extinct in the 70s-80s, you can bet the farm these pickups, which are not half as fun to drive, will perish also, sooner or later.