AD #2624 – BMW Packs EV Tech into A 5 Series, Carmakers in Europe Face Big Fines, Mitsubishi Moves North American HQ

June 26th, 2019 at 11:43am

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Runtime: 6:29

0:07 Mitsubishi Moves North American HQ to TN
0:31 Carmakers in Europe Face Big Fines
1:17 Hyundai To Offer Lyft Rides to Customers
2:07 Ford Puma Now a Crossover
3:07 BMW Packs EV Tech into A 5 Series
4:38 BMW Drags Feet on Battery Cell Production
5:23 Japanese Dominate ‘American-Made Index’

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29 Comments to “AD #2624 – BMW Packs EV Tech into A 5 Series, Carmakers in Europe Face Big Fines, Mitsubishi Moves North American HQ”

  1. Albemarle Says:

    Sean, quick!! Edit the last item on your news. You didn’t mention the world perfect, almighty ‘T’ company in your report. Don’t you know they have to be always mentioned?

    I expect some name calling, capital letters and misspelling coming up. You were warned.

  2. Bob Wilson Says:

    Four years ago, Sandy Munro called the BMW i3 the “Model T” of our time. The BMW promptly chased off the engineers who built it. Since then, they have gone retro and it shows.

    I’m reminded of a going away party I attended in the 1980s sitting the back when I realized ‘the wrong people are leaving.’

  3. MJB Says:

    I certainly hope Hyundai decides to do the right thing by the customer and simply eat the cost of these Lyft rides themselves.

    The dealers will already be helped by not having to keep new cars on hand to use as loaners, then turn around after one to two years and sell those loaners off as pre-owned. But the dealers will also save on insuring and maintaining those fleets. They shouldn’t try and make it seem as though they are doing the customers some huge favor by hailing the Lyft rides, unless they are also footing the bill.

  4. Wmb Says:

    That Puma really looks good! If it comes to the US, I hope it has AWD. I wife’s HR-V will need replacing in the next couple years and that vehicle would be on a very short list (especially in that shade of blue)!

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 Isn’t Ecosport about the same thing?

  6. JWH Says:

    #3 – Even if Hyundai does not explicitly list the cost for the Lyft/Uber rides, the customer will be paying for them in the total price they pay for service.

    Goes along with the “free shipping” we see on items purchased on-line. It’s buried in the price. Once again, it’s rare to find a “free lunch”.

  7. Larry D. Says:

    2 I know you have an i3, but Munro was 100% wrong to call it the EV model T. This OBVIOUSLY is the game changing Model 3, and it even sounds like the other name. You own one of these too, so you know.

  8. Larry D. Says:

    what, if any, value is in the name “Hyundai” as far as autos are concerned? For me, next to NOTHING. They bring nothing to the game, except maybe slightly lower prices vs far better competitors in their segment. If I ever wanted to buy a car like the ones they make, I’d buy a Honda, and if no Honda fit the profile, a Toyota or even a VW. And of course if we are talking about their 10 failed attempts to have luxury cars, there there is even less hesitation. Porsche, M-B, or BMW any time, even an LS 460.

  9. XA351GT Says:

    Not surprising that Mitsubishi is moving to TN. They are a low or no income tax state. People are fleeing from states like Cali,NY,NJ,and IL in the thousands as they try to get away from paying for all those states “freebies”.As those states continue to transform into Socialist utopias those with the means and ability are escaping.

  10. XA351GT Says:

    The Puma looks to be the size of the Hyundai Kona. The ecosport is bigger.

  11. Victor West Says:

    If you look at California traffic it a myth that people are fleeing the state. Housing starts and traffic are still increasing. You get what you pay for where you decide to live.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 Huh? Kona is longer and wider than Ecosport. Kona is a little lower.

    9 Mitsubishi is moving to Tennessee, because they are partnered with Nissan, who has been in Tenn for years. People, including myself, are fleeing Indiana, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Michigan, and some other states, to get away from the crappy winter weather.

    Here’s an actual chart of states people are moving from, and to:

    https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/the-surprising-states-people-are-moving-to-and-from/

  13. Drew Says:

    Did The trunk space suffer in the EV conversion of the BMW 5-Series?

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 Wasn’t the i3 mainly an exercise in the use of new materials?

  15. Larry D. Says:

    2 I find that nonsense by Munro ( that the i3 is the EV model T) quite disturbing, far more disturbing than his earlier critical view of the Model 3, and then only a month or so later, its glowing endoresment.

    I don’t think I will take what he says seriously in the Future.

  16. Larry D. Says:

    Mitsubishi should move to Mississippi. Rhymes better too.

  17. Larry D. Says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU4-7e1iiYc

    Yesterday I posted Doug De Muro’s take on the E38 (1995-2001) 7 Series, which he claimed was the best sedan ever or something, but gave a total score of 53. This is his review of the 2020 mid-range 750iL (not the V12 760) which still starts at 115k and while he is not thrilled by it, it gets a total score of 64. (asI said his grading favors newer cars).

    In 2026, I could get this 2020 car for $15k, which will probably be half the price of the Nissan Versa in 2026. But should I? The awful grille alone is a deal killer.

  18. Larry D. Says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-62Dr1JgAh4

    interestingly, the car Doug bought for himself was an 2012 E class for $44k, CPO w warranty. It is also a 500+ HP AMG E63, and a WAGON.

  19. Larry D. Says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV8zzGPdYXc

    And this is a review of my 2008 E Bluetec diesel, for comparison

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 That’s a great car, from back when M-B would sell we Americans E wagons without 4wd.

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #20 should have referenced 18, about the 2012 AMG E-Class wagon.

    17 The Genesis G90 must be better than the “best luxury sedan ever,” as it got a 61. Yeah, Doug’s point scores don’t seem to make much sense, but his videos are interesting.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The video about the G90:

    https://youtu.be/o8b5EnnbRLw

    He really made fun of some of the gimmicks, with good reason.

  23. DonWagner1239 Says:

    As for the Cars.com AMI report, I have one of those 2019 Jeep Cherokees (Limited model). My Monrony shows 69% US/Canadian content and 20% Mexican for major parts content. Engine and transmission U.S. It was between getting a Cherokee or a Compass. The more powerful V-6 decided it, but I can’t deny that the Compass being assembled in Mexico was a factor. I am currently thinking about replacing our second vehicle with a Hemi powered Jeep Grand Cherokee since it would be assembled right nearby in downtown Detroit. But, checking a typical sticker, I see the legendary Hemi is from Mexico! And, Larry, I looked at what Cars.com had to say, but no Tesla report. WTH?

  24. DonWagner1239 Says:

    As for the Cars.com AMI report, I have one of those 2019 Jeep Cherokees (Limited model). My Monrony shows 69% US/Canadian content and 20% Mexican for major parts content. Engine and transmission U.S. It was between getting a Cherokee or a Compass. The more powerful V-6 decided it, but I can’t deny that the Compass being assembled in Mexico was a factor. I am currently thinking about replacing our second vehicle with a Hemi powered Jeep Grand Cherokee since it would be assembled right nearby in downtown Detroit. But, checking a typical sticker, I see the legendary Hemi is from Mexico! And, Larry, I looked at what Cars.com had to say, but no Tesla report. WTH?

  25. DonWagner1239 Says:

    Sorry, must have hit the Submit twice. Didn’t mean to.

  26. Larry D. Says:

    21 His scoring method puts too much weight on recent options, which makes the oldies get lower scores, even though he named the 95-01 E38 the best lux sedan ever. Add the much higher HP numbers of new luxury cars, and their “Doug scores” get even higher.

    I guess new car dealers can use his scores to justify paying $115k for the ugly-grilled 750, and their buyers to not feel like total fools for paying said $115k.

  27. Larry D. Says:

    21, 22, if you compare Doug’s scores of a 2020 Genesis 90 costing $75k and a 2001 BMW 750iL V12 which costs only $5k or less,

    so you can buy a FLEET OF FIFTEEN of them for the same $ you paid for the Hyundai, if Doug omits this huge fact from the comparison, he is really dishonest.

    So the correct comparison is between a $4k 1998 740iL like mine, which was is book value when donated in June 2017, and the 100k mile Corolla sedan our handyman just bought for $3.5k Euros.

  28. Larry D. Says:

    1 “BLUCHER!”

    Now make that frightened horse sound.

  29. Lambo2015 Says:

    BMW dragging their feet on battery production is probably a good decision. If its an expensive investment to produce your own batteries and if each manufacturer attempts to do that you have lots of small plants producing small volume. Obviously makes sense to let a Tier supplier make the investment and produce large quantity of batteries for many manufacturers. Especially if its a technology that has a high probability of changing very soon like batteries do. So yeah you pay a little more for the battery but ovoid the huge loss when that technology is obsolete.
    I think many of the manufacturers would be wiser to use this approach for EV and AV technology.
    Kind of like when flat screen TVs first came out. Who knows who made the first one or even cares, but once developed every manufacturer had one available and the cost to buy dropped like a rock. So that huge investment to have AV might be a plug and play system you’ll buy for a fraction of the investment. IMO