AD #2647 – Mustang GT500 Powertrain Details, 2020 Nissan Versa Impressions, Motorcycles Enjoy High Profit Margins

August 5th, 2019 at 12:05pm

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Runtime: 8:59

0:07 Renault In Talks to Reduce Nissan Stake
0:43 Mustang GT500 Powertrain Details
3:36 Motorcycles Enjoy High Profit Margins
4:17 Weekend Racing Results
5:57 IndyCar To Start Using Hybrids In 2022
6:02 2020 Nissan Versa Impressions

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39 Comments to “AD #2647 – Mustang GT500 Powertrain Details, 2020 Nissan Versa Impressions, Motorcycles Enjoy High Profit Margins”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    Sean I think if you check to see the profit margins on snowmobiles, jetskis, boats and campers you will find similar results. A motorcycle is a not typically a main mode of transportation and being a luxury purchase allows for better profits.

  2. Larry D. Says:

    Sean, John,

    I think in this episode, Nissan took you to the cleaners, Your Nissan Versa “impressions” were nothing of the sort, but rather a blatant free commercial by the two Nissan Employees, who obviously only try to say something good about this most god-awful of god-awful econoboxes whose (very limited) success was being the lowest-priced hatch in the US, sometimes priced as low as $10,000, while cars costing 50% more, also hatches like the brilliant Honda Fit, had actually much less room inside.

    If i were you, I would either show your audience your own, unbiased impressions of this vehicle, or charge Nissan with a 2 min commercial, like all your other regular advertisers on these videos. Unless the two spokesmodels/spokesengineers from Nissan were willing to be interviewed by you, and NOT the usual soft Larry King type interviews Auto CEOS are treated to, but the tough questions you all should be asking them.

  3. Larry D. Says:

    (I meant to post this on today’s show but put it by mistake on last Friday’s show)

    While the Hyundai group did fine in July US Sales, selling 8,000 units more than last July, its “Genesis” division, ALL Genesis models together, sold a mere 1,586 units.

    For those of you that follow US auto sales numbers, these are embarrassingly low, tiny numbers, EVEN if ONE model, the FAILED (100%) 3-series fighter G70, accounted for all these measly 1,586.

    And this is despite all the really undeserved “Employee of the month” awards the auto press flooded the G 70 with!!!

    To further enlighten those not familiar with typical sales numbers:

    The 3 series used to sell about 10,000-15,000 units a month.

    There were about 20 attempts by different makers to make a ’3 series killer’, and all failed miserably, except one, the AWESOME Model 3 by the amateurs from TESLA, which routinely sells 14,000-22,000 units (BY ITSELF) PER MONTH.

    As they say, “If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again” But in the Case of Hyundai, they have tried 15 times to sell an allegedly luxury car to the US buyers and every time they failed, miserably. So they should follow Murphy’s Law on Work that starts with the above quote, and continues with “then stop. No sense making a fool of yourself”.

    I am curious how John, Sean, and the regulars here comment on the above Hyundai Group Luxury DEBACLE.

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    So the muscle car battle is still strong, Challenger breaks 700 with the hellcat Ford releases the 500GT with 760 and GM offers the Hennessey Camaro through dealerships with 1000 HP. Some pretty impressive numbers for “production vehicles”.
    Obviously not very practical but this battle will provide some interesting runs at the dragstrip on stock night. Oh wait you typically have to have a roll cage installed in you run under 11.0 sec or over 135mph at least at Milan dragway. Something these cars can likely do.

  5. Brett Cammack Says:

    What do the insurance premiums run for one of these 700+ HP muscle cars? Assuming clean record, no points, non-California/New York resident.

  6. JWH Says:

    Sean/John – Agree that it would be much better to have Jack Hallauer provide his analysis (& opinion) along with the Nissan employees commercial.

    In addition, seems like it would also be fair to charge Larry D a commercial fee for his daily Tesla genuflecting.

    Have a good week.

  7. Earl Says:

    #3. To add to your comments about Hyundai’s (want to be) Luxury Group they are getting some of their dealers to spend mega bucks on showrooms and stand alone facilities to flog these so called Luxury models. Reminds me of FCA.afew years doing the same to some of their dealers to put up separate facilities to sell Fiat (piss pot) 500’s. Then again Honda did the same when they came out with their Acura line in the 80’s.

  8. merv Says:

    and in other racing news,John Force won win number 150 in Seattle

  9. Larry D. Says:

    6 wrong again. Never let the facts come in the way of your SLANDER, Horse and Buggy man.

    I am in no way affiliated with TESLA. So there is NO reason for anybody to…. charge me for SPEAKING THE FACTS to the likes of you, whether you never learn or not.

    PS I bet you sell Genesis losers for a living?

  10. Larry D. Says:

    7 Very true. And Acura is another failure of the Japanese to challenge the German Dominance of the US (AND World) Luxury Auto segment.

  11. JWH Says:

    #9 – Couldn’t quite understand what you were trying to say because of all your YELLING.

    Have a good one.

  12. Drew Says:

    @6 – Great responses.

  13. Albemarle Says:

    I like to take advantage of being retired, so I have a drinking game with Autoline comments.
    Take a drink for ‘loser’, god-awful’, ‘amateur’, ‘failure’ or other unnecessarily derogatory term.
    Take a sip for each unnecessary capitalization (designed I think to get your attention because you obviously have the intelligence of a sloth).
    Do not take a sip for misspellings or bad grammar because this is just a chat.
    It’s become an expensive game lately.

  14. Sean McElroy Says:

    If you’d like to have a pissing match, please do it somewhere other than our comments section.

  15. Larry D. Says:

    9 ask me if I care, slander boy.

    keep shoving the facts under the rug, horse and buggy dude.

  16. Larry D. Says:

    13 I am sure you prefer Lawrence Welk, as the late ROss Perot used to say, everything is wonderful, right, even the Genesis G 70 and the … Nissan Versa, eh?

    Everybody gets a participation trophy. These are our times, I guess. Excellence is out the window and does not matter, mediocrity and lousiness is just as well for Albemarle?

  17. Lambo2015 Says:

    I get to drive a lot of different vehicles for work as we don’t have “company cars” so we use a rental company. I never know what I’m going to get and often get free upgrades just based on what’s available. I also get the occasional econobox like the versa. I was given a Nissan Versa and drove it right back and swapped it just about anything else they had. The comments in todays show you get what you pay for is a perfect definition of this car. It will get you where you need to go and seems to be a reliable car. Just do not plan to enjoy getting there. It is about as versatile as a house key.. Does what its supposed to do and not much else. Even what it does do well is pretty standard for all other vehicles.

  18. GM Veteran Says:

    Sean, unless I missed something, this adds up to 850 hp rather than 900. Thanks for another nice daily update though. Its normally the highlight of my day!

    “And speaking of racing, starting in 2022 Indy cars will use 2.4 liter V6 engines with 800 horsepower, 50 more than the 2.2 liter engines used today. And they are going to be hybrids. That means they’ll have an electric motor that will add another 50 horsepower. All together drivers will have 900 horses to tap into.”

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I thought the segment on the Versa was honest. It basically said, the Versa is not very good, but it’s cheap, for a new car.


    19) Agreed. There is a segment of buyers that truly just need a cheap reliable driver. They are willing to put up with a lot of things that many on this comment section would not put up with as long as the cost is low.

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3 Lincoln sold 10,000 Town Cars a month in 1994. Since 2012, they have sold zero. Yes, tastes in vehicles change.

    As far as Genesis, they started off with three sedans, while Americans are buying mostly trucks. That, alone, did not help their brand much, and people aren’t yet ready to buy $50K+ Hyundais, no matter how good they are. Toyota sells $100K+ cars, and VW sells $2M+ cars. It’s hard to get established in those markets, though.

  22. Tom Cain Says:

    How could you possibly ignore John Force winning his 150th Funny Car Wally in your racing report? Still racing Funny Car at 70 years old, John Force is THE MAN!

  23. BobD Says:

    Interesting that the Ford PR people hyped, “It needs those longer bolts, in part, because the in-cylinder pressure is much higher than the GT350, over 1800 psi vs about 1150 psi.” The only way this makes sense is that the longer bolts have more thread engagement, which only means the GT350 engine must have not used standard design practices and was actually under-designed. If the original design had the proper engagement then longer engagement would not make any difference, and the only way to improve the clamping is using larger diameter bolts/threads, higher strength bolts (although the block threads are probably limiting), or more bolts.

  24. bradley cross Says:

    New teen drivers do not need a new car.
    Perhaps buy a used Nissan Leaf (if range OK) or a 4 year old Corolla/Civic or Versa if money is tight.

  25. Larry D. Says:

    19 I did not bother to waste my time on the commercial. There is informative (and possibly honest) advertising and there is BS advertising (such as TOyota’s bunch of clowns jumping up and down and saying… “what a feeling” of all things, as if Toyota products generate ANY feelings to anybody).) Regardless, both are commercials and both should pay.

  26. Larry D. Says:

    21 Come on, with a mass market model like the 3 series challenger G 70, to sell (all models combined) 1,586 units in one month, where the model 3 alone sold over 13,000 in the same month, is nothing short of a Titanic Sized Disaster. Even worse than VOlvo’s consistently pitiful sales, at least they sell 8,000 a month and not 1,500!!

    And I don’t think Genesis is sold in Europe, so it must be bleeding billions, but Hyundai is a huge conglomerate and they don’t care losing a billion here and there.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    26 It looks like Genesis in Europe, sort of, at least in the UK, but a writer for Autocar was not impressed.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 I like the Toyota feeling of getting great gas mileage and nothing ever breaking, but yeah, the ads are really silly, like most ads.

  29. Lambo2015 Says:

    23 Bob good point. I was also wondering the same thing as longer bolts would only fix a problem of the higher pressures were pulling threads. More or a larger diameter would certainly provide a better seal. I also wondered what an extra active layer in the head gasket means? “Active” makes me think it can flex as I’m sure they are using stretch bolts and this extra layer may allow for some expansion?

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    23,29 That engine shouldn’t need anything more “special” than any number of 2 liter turbo fours engines, which would have similar cylinder pressure.

  31. Lambo2015 Says:

    30 Difference is on a 4cyl you would only ever have one cylinder on the compression stroke per head. But Ford firing order is 1,3,7,2,6,5,4,8 with 1234 on one bank and 5678 on the other bank. So you have two cylinders on the compression stroke at the same time. Obviously not at the same position but still two building pressure.
    I’m not sure if the flat plane crank is the same I’d have to look into it.

  32. Larry D. Says:

    27 Had a look, it did not give the name of the model but from its 5 meter length it must not be the compact G 70 but the mid-range G 80. ( About E class size, most Euros don’t buy the S class size ‘exec cars’.)

  33. Larry D. Says:

    29 You appreciate these benefits rationally, you did not actually jump up and down and had any actual ‘feelings’, let alone the amazing ones alleged by the silly ad

  34. Larry D. Says:

    27 With only 7 dealers in all of the UK to sell the G 80, it looks like a pilot project instead of a real sales effort.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    34 it is RHD, so they must be trying to sell it in other markets, like Australia, New Zealand, and maybe Japan. AUS might be more receptive than other RHD markets, since the similar “home grown” cars from Ford and GM are no longer made.

  36. Larry D. Says:

    35 if it is 50,000 pounds in the UK it should be around 100,000 $ AUS or NZ. When I went to Sydney for a conference, my host was driving a Nissan. Did not see lots of luxury cars there except for an ancient Rolls Phantom V which was some government official’s state auto.

  37. Lambo2015 Says:

    30 On the flat plane crank the firing is a balanced altering from right to left so it shouldn’t see the pressures a cross-plane crank engine would see.

  38. Larry D. Says:

    Τhe first one with About $2 mill US takes this silver hearse “wagon”, ‘Shooting brake” or whatever.

  39. Kit Gerhart Says:

    37 Thanks for the info. That’s what I thought. Each bank, separately, would fire like an I4.