AD #2680 – Rivian Gets Big Order from Amazon, 1990 VW Cabriolet Converted to an EV, BMW May Cut Thousands of Jobs

September 20th, 2019 at 11:49am

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Runtime: 6:41

0:45 UAW Strike Forces Supplier Layoffs
1:17 Rivian Gets Big Order from Amazon
1:55 BMW May Cut Thousands of Jobs
2:19 FCA And Nissan Test Smart Charging
3:17 Lexus Introduces First Ever Yacht
3:59 1990 VW Cabriolet Converted to an EV
5:04 Ford Falcon “Barn Find”

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45 Comments to “AD #2680 – Rivian Gets Big Order from Amazon, 1990 VW Cabriolet Converted to an EV, BMW May Cut Thousands of Jobs”

  1. Larry D. Says:

    If I wanted a Lexus Yacht, I would want it with a bulletproof-reliable Lexus or Toyota engine; do you really believe I would accept it with….. a Volvo engine????

  2. Gary Susie Says:


  3. GM Veteran Says:

    I like the front fascia design of the Amazon delivery van much more than that of the Rivian pickup and SUV. I wonder if they would consider a last minute design change . . .

    Not surprised that the yacht maker contracted by Lexus to build their design decided to use a Volvo Penta powertrain. Not only do they have a long and enviable record for marine installations and reliability, but they also have a large service and parts network set up. For the handful of yachts Lexus will sell, they would be foolish to attempt to use their own engine, controls and outdrives.

  4. ChuckGrenci Says:

    The Falcon had me for about half of the presentation then I got suspicious and started looking for appearances that looked like a model. (my first hint was the intensity of the close ups; a real showing would probably had a scan backing for a view of the whole car)

  5. lambo2015 Says:

    A bit surprised that some suppliers are just now being affected. We ran production 1st shift only on Monday and have been down since. With just in time delivery not sure why its taken a week for other suppliers to feel the affect.

    The Lexus Yacht looks nice but lets be serious. They did not build this thing other than allow the licensing for some boat manufacturer to use the Lexus name, hence the use of Volvo engines. Toyota has been making Marine motors over 25 years so if they built it they certainly would have used their engines. Very nice all the same!

    Congrats to Ron Grosinger for a very cool idea that is typically reserved for college and universities. That would certainly be a fun project and show kids how math and science apply to the industry. It can be very difficult to explain what some of the very technical jobs entail and allowing kids exposure to this is so valuable.

  6. lambo2015 Says:

    1 “do you really believe I would accept it with….. a Volvo engine????”

    Yea you would have to, cause that’s the only engines available. I’m guessing Toyota doesn’t have a large enough Marine motor for the yacht and went with a tried a true marine application Volvo. Not saying Toyota couldn’t do it better but why bother for the what? 100 boats it might sell.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    In case anyone isn’t aware, the Volvo boat motors are from the truck company, not Geely who has Volvo cars.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

  9. Larry D. Says:

    3 I agree. I have no idea why RIvian bothered with the stupid pickup anyway, they should have introduced the van instead, and other segments where EVs make sense.

  10. Larry D. Says:

    7 Volvo reliability was abysmal 35 years before it made cars in CHina.

  11. JWH Says:

    #10 I realize you know much more than I do, however, very satisfied with our 2004 V70R. No need to reply with your all capitals shouting response. Have a good weekend.

  12. Tom Rae Says:

    I am glad that the Yacht has no signs of the hideous Lexus grill.

  13. Larry D. Says:

    Real Yachts are Sailboats. Those motorboats are just noisy nuisances.

  14. Larry D. Says:

    Did Rivian enter the USPS next mail truck competition and did not make it to the finals, or didn’t it bother to waste its time with it?

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 I had a Laser racing yacht for a few years.

  16. Jim Haines Says:

    Here in the Wash DC area we used to see Falcons like those in the eighties just with euro headlights as they still made them new in Argentina long after they moved on here but the Embassy got them sent up here for many years for staff to use

  17. Larry D. Says:

    16 I first learned to sail in a “Tech Dingy (sp)” in the summers of 78-79, which included three capsizings in the Charles, or rather two, the third was me losing my balance as I took the little boat to the dock and fell in the water head first, I believe (lucky I did not hit any structure under the surface). In 78 I was rail-thin (169 lbs or less at 6 1″) and was dizzy for having skipped lunch to go sailing

  18. Larry D. Says:

    16 this is more like what I had in mind. The first (and probably current too) owner of this one was also in the area and did his UG in the same dept. where I did most of my grad studies.

    He later had a company where, if you invested $55 million, you’d end up with $5. (not thousands, just five bucks). Some haircut.

  19. Larry D. Says:

    I meant 15, not 16 the last two posts.

    My first cousin’s (the one in Amsterdam with same first and last name as me but 17 years younger) father in law, who helped me last Aug 18 with the summer home E320 (had to write a guarantee letter for me to the Govt there) was the secretary of the sailing (Yacht) club of the old country, located in a spectacular high location with a great view of the sea, and died suddenly last Nov (aneurysm) and left a “Dragon” type boat, worth only $10k but needing a crew of 2 plus him to sail, plus a small Merc C 180 Compressor from 2004 or so, worth less than $4k today. His widow does not want to sell the car, and they are trying to sell the boat, I think.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 I assume the charters include a crew. You’d need some really good credentials to rent it w/o crew.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    20 Have not tried it so I wouldn’t know. My ex-navy friend and wife, a few years ago took 3 other couples from their Arlington VA neighborhood and chartered a sailboat in the old country for a week or two, with its crew, and toured the coast and islands. It’s a hard life, but it was soon over.

  22. lambo2015 Says:

    20 As well as $200,000 per week.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 Yeah, that would be a major deterent to most of us.

  24. MJB Says:

    #1. Volvo Penta engines are the standard fare in the motor yachting industry. They were the first with joystick controls that essentially make docking (and un-docking) a 70′ yacht so easy a novice could do it with no more than an hour of practice.

  25. MJB Says:

    I could tell it was a model the moment I could see how the light was bending through the plastic windows. So in other words, about 9 or 10 seconds in.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 The Volvo Penta gas stern drives use Chevy engines, but does Volvo make the big diesels used in that “Lexus” boat, or would the engines themselves be Cummins, Cat, or something?

  27. Larry D. Says:

    22, 23 I am 100% sure that my friends from Arlington VA and the other 3 couples who chartered a yacht for a week or two did not pay $20,000 a couple, let alone $200,000. The boat may have been half the size of the one in my link, but was still very enjoyable.

    Many of my colleagues here OWN sailboats, small to medium, really nice, and one of them who passed away this year used to take me on cruises on weekends, he had a 32 footer and the other guests were from the sierra club

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The main sailing I’ve done was racing on a inland reservoir. I raced my laser a few times, but not enough to get very good at it. I’ve crewed on some larger boats that race with 2-4 people, which is fun.

  29. Kit Gerhart Says:

    More Tesla, Porsche, and the ‘Ring. It’s a fairly long article, but good.

  30. Larry D. Says:

    I was very surprised when I first sailed in the Great Lakes, and even before we went out in the big ones, on lake Charlevoix, with less than one foot waves, where Jack W and his family had a summer home and he docked his boat there, north in MI, I got seasick for the first time in my life at 36 or so, while I never got seasick in large boats and decent waves. So I attributed it to the beer I had with lunch, it went away in a couple mins, and the next time we sailed, I only ate solids for lunch, and still, I was seasick in the little lake again! It went away very fast, but it puzzled me, I thought I must be allergic to the higher frequencies of the smaller boats. Every time, once we got out on the big lakes, no seasickness at all. He had a book in the boat that claimed 90% of all people get seasick.

  31. Larry D. Says:

    29 I took a quick look. I am not much of a racing fan, but marketing wise this helps Porsche probably more than Tesla, since far more people know the 8 year old Tesla S and practically nobody knows what a Taycan is.

    But the 7 seater large sedan S is not the gun to bring to a serious racing fight, when the time for serious competition comes, Tesla should bring the new Roadster. And with 620 miles of range advertised, it can do several 13 mile Ring laps.

  32. Kit Gerhart Says:

    31 If serious high performance tires are available big enough for the Model S and Taycan, bigger cars might not be at much disadvantage compared to smaller ones, on that course. Narrower is certainly better in general, but with a mostly high speed course 6 to 8 meters wide, that shouldn’t be a big factor.

    If there are records to be set for multiple laps, probably neither the current Taycan nor S would be too good. From an article I read a while back about the highest performance Model 3, it got 1/6 or less the range going fast on a track, than it would get in normal driving. The Roadster with 620 mile range, if that’s real, would do a lot better than either an S or Taycan for 8 laps on the ‘Ring. I find this stuff interesting, but as a buyer of cars for road use, WTF difference does any of it make?

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    30 I’ve sailed small boats, as mentioned in #28, and took a few Windjammer Barefoot Cruises before they went out of business, but the closest I ever got to sea sick was on a fast deep sea fishing boat from Daytona, with fairly high frequency motion on semi-rough water. In 1998, I took a cruise on a soon-to-be-retired ~600 passenger ship built in the 1950′s, from Ft. Lauderdale to Manaus, Brazil, and a number of passengers on the semi-rough water got queazy, but I was ok.

  34. Larry D. Says:

    32 Musk always likes to tease the established automakers. Most buyers would not care about these races.

    33 My father knew a lawyer working for a cruise line and he took a 7 day free cruise in a similar ship to the above, and later (in 77) they gave me a freebie too, but not the 7 day I wanted, but two smaller 3 and 4 day cruises instead (Mediterranean). Don’t remember any rough seas, I’m sure if they were many of the passengers would get sick.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I don’t know how many people here watched the Singapore GP, but is it just me, or is Charles LeClerc quite the spoiled brat to be so angry about finishing only 2nd because of a pit decision, and Vettel really hauling on that lap after leaving the pit? Maybe Charles should quit Ferrari, and get a ride with Williams.

  36. Larry D. Says:

    “people don’t want sedans”? No, they don’t want LAME sedans!

  37. Kit Gerhart Says:

    36 Neither would add a lot to the sales numbers, but you can still get manual transmissions, and actual two door coupes with the Civic.

  38. Larry D. Says:

    36, 37 And most importantly, they do it with 100% retail sales, no discount rental fleet sales like everybody else.

  39. lambo2015 Says:

    26 I was thinking the same thing based on the size of the yacht pictured I would expect it to be twin diesels. But a quick google search I found an article on it. Had this to say about the engines.

    “The Yacht’s various electronic systems have the ability to be controlled via smartphone, and propulsion comes from a pair of marine-spec Volvo Penta IPS 12.8-liter engines that can produce up to 1,350 horsepower each. Sorry Lexus fans, no Toyota-spec power this time.

  40. lambo2015 Says:

    Link to the article on the Lexus yacht.

  41. Kit Gerhart Says:

    40 It looks like Volvo, (not the Geely car group) makes the engines used in the boat. This is a similar engine, in basic inboard form.

  42. Larry D. Says:

    “Nobody Loves Carlos”

  43. Larry D. Says:

    41 whadda u mean? Volvo IS part of the Geely Group. Some Volvo cars are even built in China.

  44. Kit Gerhart Says:

    43 Volvo cars is part of Geely. Volvo trucks, Volvo Penta marine, and more are Volvo Group, and NOT part of Geely.

  45. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Volvo cars and Volvo AB have been separate, since Ford bought the car business in 1999.