AD #2722 – Aston Martin Unveils 1st SUV, Toyota Introduces Plug-In Hybrid RAV4, VW Unveils 7th ID Concept

November 20th, 2019 at 12:00pm

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Runtime: 9:24

0:08 VW Unveils 7th ID Concept
1:06 Toyota Introduces Plug-In Hybrid RAV4
1:47 Lexus Shows Off LC 500 Convertible
2:52 Lincoln Reveals Plug-In Corsair
3:35 Nissan Debuts 2020 Sentra
4:31 Karma Reveals Two New Vehicles
5:45 Aston Martin Unveils DBX SUV
6:40 Audi Shows Off Fastback E-Tron
7:26 LIQUI MOLY Introduces Low Viscosity Oil
8:22 Hella Develops High-Res Lighting Technology

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39 Comments to “AD #2722 – Aston Martin Unveils 1st SUV, Toyota Introduces Plug-In Hybrid RAV4, VW Unveils 7th ID Concept”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    My 2018 Camry hybrid uses 0w16 oil, so it has been arounfzd at least 2 years.

  2. Brett Cammack Says:

    Good looking VW wagon. Wish they’d do a two-door wagon. I’m a sucker for those.

  3. Lambo2015 Says:

    Sean; Even though the thinner oils do help reduce engine drag and increase efficiency the other reason is the tolerances used in todays engines require a thinner oil. In fact if you put a 10W-40 weight oil in some of the modern engines that call for 0W-20 you would not just see a reduction in efficiency but may very well destroy the engine as the thicker oil cannot lubricate items like main bearings. Machining has gotten better over the years and allowed for tighter tolerances which has allowed them to reduce the oil viscosity.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3 Also, it’s impressive how today’s engines don’t use oil, even with the really thin stuff. My Camry, with the 0W16, was still at the full mark at the first oil change, at almost 10K miles.

  5. Bob Wilson Says:

    Gosh darn. My 2014 BMW i3-REx only gets 72 mi EV range with a gas engine that gives 40 MPG at 70 mph. The LA show is a little thin (non-existent) in the show.

    Perhaps the existing manufacturers never benchmarked that car?

  6. Buzzerd Says:

    I love the SC2 concept, love it more if it had a motor.

  7. Lambo2015 Says:

    I wonder how these EV’s do in front end collisions. Especially ones that have no engine or electric motor in the front. People tent to think that motor provides some protection. However, they might fair better since they have more space to absorb an impact without a massive engine getting pushed into the passenger compartment.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    5 The i3 REx does pretty well on gas, for using strictly series operation on gas, and using an engine that was designed for something completely different. I assume they tuned it differently for the i3 than for the scooter, but it sill does pretty well. The problems with the car, though, are that it needs a bigger battery, and a bigger gas tank. The other series hybrid now sold is the Karma, that gets truly dismal mpg on gas. The Volt is series at lower speed, and gears the engine to the wheels at highway speed, helping the mpg.

    It looks like the closest replacement for the i3 from BMW will be the i4, which sounds like, basically, an electric 4 series hatch, which be be electric only, not a plug-in hybrid.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 Maybe it would be good to have a big block of some kind of foam in the frunk, just it case, when there is no cargo. The same might apply with the C8 Corvette, Boxster/Cayman, etc.

  10. cwolf Says:

    They put a scad of air bags interiors, so why not put one on the front bumpers of EV’s? Although hitting a pedestrian might throw him into the next block! Maybe that’s not a bad idea either. A jay-walker won’t do it twice.

  11. ArtG Says:

    #7. Modern cars are designed so the engine will go under the car in a severe crash.

  12. Don Wagner1239 Says:

    No engineers in this forum? The front vehicle structure is designed to absorb the impact from various front, angle and side impacts. The insurance industry has come up with their own requirements that just throw the whole thing out of whack. The engine is meant to go UNDER the vehicle and NOT to absorb ANY impact. Mounts to shear off in a crash.

  13. WineGeek Says:

    Sean LIQUI MOLY is late to the game I was buying Mobil 1 5W-30 for my car the other day and noticed that there was a Mobil 1 0W-16 on the shelf. I looked and thought that it was really weird I always learned that you wanted 0W or 5W in the cold then a higher viscosity when the engine was warm. I guess the new engines require less weight when warmed up. The Mobil 1 packaging stated that the oil was for many Hondas and Toyotas. My wife’s Prius has always used 0W-20 which is not far off.

    So I guess that Liqui Moly is really late to the game.

  14. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I’m assuming the C8 has a fully reinforced front forward trunk, and reviewing that first Vette crash (the one with the Ford truck or was it an suv) reports stated that the crash was fairly well absorbed by the Vette even though it was probably totaled. Passenger safety was probably well protected at least in that scenario. I tried to look for any C8 crash test data but maybe that will be delayed until production cars are available.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 Yep, like I said in post #1, my 2018 Camry hybrid uses 0W-16. I think regular current Camrys also use 0W-16, at least the 4 cylinder ones. My 2010 Prius used 0W-20.

    All oil is thinner at high temperature, but the slope of the thinning is shallower with “multigrade” oil, and the wider the difference between the first and second number, the shallower the slope. This sort of explains it, with a simple graph showing the behavior of SAE 10W-40 vs SAE 40 about halfway down.

  16. Don Wagner1239 Says:

    I don’t remember who, but only one person mentioned that there are MILEAGE standards (that Trump wants to ease because there is plenty of oil in this country so OPEC can’t control us like the did in the early 70s) and there are completely different set of standards for EMISSIONS like carbon monoxide, carbon particulates and nitrous oxides. The latter is the one that primarily causes smog and was the first on California’s list to reduce. I retired quite a long time ago, but I remember that there were different exhaust and thermal protection components between Federal and California emissions. Engine performance components and parameters were also different, spark timing, fuel regulation, etc.. I was in the thermal testing game most of my career (included engine cooling as well as being sure the vehicle components and occupants were protected from extremes in heat). I would assume that the same applies now, but 13 more states are complicating the situation. One standard would be good for both emissions and fuel economy with adjustments for the various platforms, car or truck. Interesting that the minivans are trucks as was the (meant to be a Plymouth) Chrysler PT Cruiser. As we all know, diesels are another ball game as VW and FCA found out!

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The NHTSA doesn’t seem to crash test any sports cars. They never tested a C7, nor have they tested a Miata, 911, Cayman, or Boxster. They “sporty” cars, though, like current Mustang and Camaro.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17, reply to #14.

  19. Kevin A Says:

    Is it just me, or does the new Sentra just look like a mildly restyled Honda Civic?

  20. Don Wagner1239 Says:

    While I was typing my 12, ArtG said the same thing about the engine going under. Thanks ArtG.

  21. Don Wagner1239 Says:

    Doesn’t the Aston Martin look like a Tesla Model Y? Has Elon visited England recently?

  22. Don Wagner1239 Says:

    And, no, the Mach E doesn’t.

  23. Don Wagner1239 Says:

    Note that the Ford has rear fender bulges.

  24. Don Wagner1239 Says:

    Will there be comments about the new Nissan or Lincoln from that very far away land? Will check back later. I know they are coming.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22,23 Maybe the bulges are part of what makes it a Mustang.

  26. cwolf Says:

    I spoke with an older guy having a new car requiring 0W-20 oil. After the brake in period, he added a Teflon additive. And as many “old schooler’s” do in the summer is to use a heavier oil. He said he had serious valve problems as a result. I didn’t think the Teflon would make a difference, but since he used another oil, I can only wonder.

  27. cwolf Says:

    I, too, think the bulges, along with the front end and tail lights, make it resemble a Mustang more. I’m not certain I like having a small chalk board cheaply attached to the dash though.

  28. Larry D. Says:

    5 perhaps they looked at the dismal sales and even worse losses the i3 caused BMW and thought again.

    19 look at the Sentra specs (I can only read the transcript and can’t see it here but I saw it elsewhere and it did not look like the Civic) and you will not wonder consumers hate sedans. Especially junky Nissan sedans with anemic engines. In the era where a RAV4 breadvan makes 300+ HP, the less than 150 HP Nissan sedan is UTTERLY Lame and inadequate. How can a driver enjoy this vehicle dragging itself, panting, up the smallest hill? Even with a manual, it would have to put in a very annoyingly noisy low gear to do the job.

  29. Larry D. Says:

    Aston is even more rare than Ferrari in sales, higher snob appeal.

    In the past, I have seen some sleek Aston wagons called “Shooting brakes” by the Brits.

    Now, in their infinite wisdom (see greed) they decide to make an “SUV”. And according to the transcript, they make it look like the…. FORD ESCAPE of all econoboxes? Not even its Lincoln Clone the Corsair?

    Are you kidding me Aston? No wonder you are so “exclusive”. Nobody will bother.

  30. Larry D. Says:

    As far as BMWs in Shanghai, I had seen several 7 long bulky 7 series of recent vintage, very few 3 and no 5 series, and yesterday I saw a z4 little tiny sports car.

    The convenient way to see what % of the cars are plugins or BEVs here is not so accurate. Not only are all cars with green license plates green as above, but also many cars with blue (allegedly ICE) plates are also green, but they were purchased 3 years ago or earlier, before the green plate idea was implemented.

    So when my friend the dean here took us to lunch yesterday, he returned and said, to my surprise, he would need to recharge the battery of his blue-plated BYD, a mystery I found out about as above, a bit later.

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    28 The i3 was mainly an exercise with materials, as in carbon fibre, and they probably never expected it to sell all that well.

  32. Larry D. Says:

    Several noteworthy cars today:

    A BMW 3 series “L” sedan. Makes eminent sense. Whoever wants a 2+2 type 3 series can buy the Coupe, or 4 series. The Sedan should have a rear seat that is not a joke. Especially if you pay BMW money to buy it.

    A Lexus ES 200 in black and chrome. Did not see the grille but otherwise the styling was excellent. Wonder what engine it has, is it really a 2.0?

    A gorgeous Caddy CT6 in Black. Seems it has ample room in the back too.

    A Long, big, elegant VW that seemed smaller and more sleek than the Phaeton, with a suspiciously similar name, don’t remember it exactly, Phideon or something.

    And finally I made yet another move, from my apartment in the 10th floor to a much bigger one, probably the best in the building, on the 11th floor, with two bedrooms, a separate room for office, balconies all around with panoramic views. Too bad it became available only a week (8 days) before I have to leave. Still, I took it and in 30 mins I moved and stored everything.

  33. Larry D. Says:

    Chinese BEV to be sold in CA. And unlike the failed (whether you want to admit it or not) Bolt, it is not a fat short hatch but a very roomy crossover. Right on both counts (selling in the state that buys 50% of all US BEVs, and offering a body style consumers want or need.

  34. Larry D. Says:

    Mercedes BEV actually much cheaper than the Audi E tron (and of course the much larger and more competent Tesla X.)

    I wonder if Audi will respond, and what will the price of the eventual BMW BEV in this group be.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    33 That will be interesting. With 270hp and RWD, not 4WD, there is no pretense of it being either a rock crawler, or a drag racing machine. I couldn’t find anything about its weight (might be in the autonews article I can’t access) but being 191 inches long and 77 inches wide, unless it is lighter than I’d expect, it should do 0-60 in a perfectly adequate 7-8 seconds. If the price is right, it should do well in CA.

    32 That ES 200 probably has a 2.0 liter, non-turbo 4 of about 165 hp. The car wouldn’t be very quick, but perfectly adequate for urban driving.

  36. Kit Gerhart Says:

    34 The Benz is ~$7K cheaper than the e-tron, but the e-tron gets generally good reviews for comfort, ride, etc., but is not particularly quick, for an EV. So far, e-tron has sold in very small numbers, but it may not be widely available.

  37. FSTFWRD Says:

    Did I hear that right 10,500 Lb. torque of the Karma??

  38. Kit Gerhart Says:

    37 That’s at the wheels. To get the equivalent of that with an ICE car, you need to multiply the torque peak of the engine times the first gear ratio times the final drive ratio. You’d get some very big numbers doing that, even with a normal car. For example, a 4 cylinder Camaro automatic would have 4437 lb ft at the wheels in first gear. I didn’t look up the numbers to calculate it, but big engine ICE cars would have some very big torque numbers, at the wheels.

    The peak would be at higher speed in the ICE car than the EV, though. Electric motors have peak torque at zero rpm, while my 2.0 turbo example has peak torque from 3000-4500 rpm.

  39. FSTFWRD Says:

    Kit, thanks, I didn’t know that. Big numbers indeed.