AD #2746 – Sony Reveals Concept Car at CES; FCA Hires Aston’s Simon Sproule; Waymo Logs 20 Million Miles

January 8th, 2020 at 11:41am

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Runtime: 7:03

0:07 FCA Hires Aston’s Simon Sproule
0:39 Mercedes & Geely Launch smart Joint Venture
1:17 Waymo Logs 20 Million Miles
2:05 Nissan’s E-4ORCE All-Wheel-Drive System
2:45 Sony Reveals Concept Car at CES
4:33 Lamborghini Integrates Amazon Alexa Into Huracan EVO Range
5:18 A Look At Some Items From The New Daily Set

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43 Comments to “AD #2746 – Sony Reveals Concept Car at CES; FCA Hires Aston’s Simon Sproule; Waymo Logs 20 Million Miles”

  1. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Tool time, I good with that; thanks for sharing Sean.

  2. cwolf Says:

    I, too, have included a set of long handled wrenches in my tool box. I opted for tappet wrenches, which are thin. There are two of each sizes for bolts that have double nuts.

    Why does every EV look the same? so do SUV’s.
    No imagination anymore!

  3. Larry D. Says:

    nothing commentworthy today, except for Lambo using stupid Alexa. I looked it up and was surprised to see Alexa was released 5 years ago, I thought it was a 2019 thing. I guess it was developed at Amazon’s Smoke and Mirrors Department. Or is it beads and mirrors.

  4. Larry D. Says:

    2 The Model 3 and S look very similar, the Y looks too much like the 3, but I would never confuse any of these three with either the Tesla Cybertruck OR anybody else’s BEVs.

  5. Larry D. Says:

    As markets continue to rally this afternoon, guess which stock exceeded $500 today. Hint-the company is worth more than all of GM and twice than all of Ford.

  6. Lambo2015 Says:

    That little smart electric car is perfect for inner city use and as much as dislike the current smart car those look pretty cool and futuristic. They looked to be more closely inspired by the bubble cart in the last Jurassic movie than the seated seagway from yesterdays show. I like the doors

  7. MJB Says:

    @2 – Why does every EV look the same?

    Well, there are only so many ways to achieve a coefficient of drag below .25. And then you’ve got the current hot design trends to follow – i.e., scooping out elongated voids from the side body panels, exaggerated character lines and sometimes multi-directional body creases, plus the new standard ‘invisible C-pillar’ treatment.

  8. Larry D. Says:

    5 Time’s up. Of course, the answer is Tesla. Musk must now be worth double the $23bill he was worth when the stock was half the $500 it is now.

    This has huge consequences for Tesla’s expansion, they can now raise tons of $ and build factories and expand production all over the world.

  9. GM Veteran Says:

    #5 And that should tell us all something. Things that don’t make any sense are bound not to last. There will be more Tesla stockholders that get burned.

  10. Larry D. Says:

    Even long term Tesla denier Bob Lutz was convinced by the $500 stock price and other recent Tesla developments.


    Sony’s electric car concept is more fluid and organized than all Tesla models.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6 The smart will be much better as an electric car. I drove an early US spec smart, and the jerky single clutch automatic transmission was, putting it mildly, very annoying. That won’t be an issue with the electric, and since it will be used exclusively as a city car, it won’t need a lot of range.

    I wonder if those transparent doors will be on the production car. To be strong enough, they would need to be fairly thick polycarbonate, and while they look cool in the video, after a few years, they would probably turn cloudy and yellow, like polycarbonate headlight lenses.

  13. ArtG Says:

    Will the Sony concept car be like my Sony TV and randomly shut down?

  14. Larry D. Says:

    11 The things wrong w Smart had little to do with its powerplant, the car is terrible and can only be practical around town when the wife goes shopping (by herself only!)

  15. XA351GT Says:

    #3 Nothing comment worthy ,but 5 of 12 comments were yours so I guess something was. LOL

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 From pictures I’ve seen, the Model Y and Ford E-Thing will look a lot alike from the side, but yeah, not from the front. The Cybertruck certainly won’t be confused with anything else. If they actually build it like the show vehicle, it will be interesting to see how many of them get painted or wrapped. Not everyone will want their vehicle to have the finish of an institutional kitchen, or a recent home refrigerator.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 The powerplant, as in engine, was a basic 1 liter 3 cylinder that worked ok. The transmission sucked, though. Other than that, the car works fine for around-town use with two people, and a little, but not much stuff. Still, there was never much reason to buy one, unless you just wanted something different, or had a really small place you wanted to park.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I found that in 2016, and maybe one or two other years, you could get a manual transmission in a gas smart. That would make it a much better car than with the single clutch auto.


    2) There is a photo going around showing Buick Lacrosse badges on a Model S. It is amazing how easily mistaken a Model S rear could be for a Buick just because of a badge switch.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 Did it have Ventaports?

  21. merv Says:

    I also share your passion for tools. I have a few favorites,nothing like the right tool for the job.

  22. Barry Rector Says:

    Thanks for sharing some of your personal info! Sometime maybe share some work experiences of what maybe was one of your hardest and most fun experiences.

  23. Sean McElroy Says:

    @Barry – Thanks for the feedback. I think I could work in some of my experiences. I was a tech for 13.5 years, so I have a few fun stories.

  24. Larry D. Says:

    14 I see nothing strange in that, my comments were based on VERY important, milestone news that the show was taped too early to catch them today.

    PS You’re welcome.

  25. Larry D. Says:

    18 I have admitted here earlier that I made this exact mistake the first time I got just a glimpse of a Model S in the flesh, from that angle and from that distance and speed I did think it was some garden variety Buick. I would never make this mistake seeing a stationary S in a parking lot, though.

  26. Larry D. Says:

    9 No, what it tells me is that YOU Still, after many, many explanations in this forum, have no clue what a Stock Price (ANY Stock price) really MEANS.

    Hint: It has NOTHING to do with how many billions in idle buildings your GM has, or h ow many billions it loses selling a lot of cars. None of that helped it avoid BANKRUPTCY in 2008. You probably still wonder what hit you then,

    Answer, for the Nth time: Stocks reflect the INVESTORS EXPECTATIONS of a company’s FUTURE PROFITS.

    Sorry for the caps but some people NEVER learn so I had to EMPHASIZE them, each word is VERY important. If this had bold, I’d use that instead. Or underline.

    Your response gives me a ton of info about how you think (or do not think). You probably thought Microsoft, Apple, Amazon especially (it lost $ ten years in a row before it dominated the PLANET), were ‘too expensive’ and \no bargains, and never invested in them, while you bought a ton of bargain basement GM stock before 2008, and saw its ‘bargain’ value go to ZERO (a 100% loss) a year later.

    So, “y’all” ignore all of the above once more, at your peril and loss.

  27. Bob Wilson Says:

    After a throughly disappointing, Craftsman 1/4″, impact wrench, I really like the “3/8ths impact that’s made by Ingersoll Rand.” They make a compact that would have solved my problem.

    Instead, I used a 1/2″ break-over and “UMPH” to get the Torx bolts holding the rear brake assembly off.

    The Craftsman goes back to Lowes on Thursday.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 Buying any stock is mostly gambling, but with interest rates at near zero, CDs and bonds are not a viable place to put money, if you want to even keep up with inflation.

  29. Larry D. Says:

    27 as I have explained here many times, if you want to be invested, you do not buy individual stocks, you buy a mutual fund in their industry, and if you want to minimize the risk, you just buy an INDEX mutual fund, which also has very low costs. CDs are ridiculous today, with inflation you get a negative rate of return.

    Like last year, I got huge end-of-the year distributions from Fidelity (my non-retirement savings in mutual funds), and like last year I invested all of them in my MI tax free (and MI tax free) mutual municipal bond fund. Mostly as a parking place and to lower my still very high % of stocks in my investments. If I was 30, I would put 100% in stocks and none on bonds (as I did when I was 30 and until recently, and benefited hugely from it)

    There is another HUGE Difference between stocks and “GAMBLING” as in the fools that go to casinos and lose their meager savings:

    In Stocks, for 200 years now, the average rate of return has been like 11% or similar HUGE profit.

    In Gambling, the rate of return is not even 0%. It is Negative.

    SO it is a very poor and inaccurate characterization to say buying stocks is Gambling, EVEN if you just, unwisely, buy only one stock.

  30. Larry D. Says:

    29 I should say 28, not 27. I thought it was 27 but when it was posted 27 was another post.

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    28,29,30 My #28 referred to buying individual stocks, by people who are not well informed. That is close to being gambling. I was not referring to what the overall market has done over the hundred years, or last 8 years.

  32. Larry D. Says:

    Europe goes greener. Too bad the Berlin Tesla plant will not start in 2020. They will have to use imported Teslas from the US and/or China.

  33. Larry D. Says:

    31 Since many believe stock prices are a “random walk”, which argues in favor of the low-cost index fund buying the whole market, the uninformed who buy individual stocks, if you put them together, will also do infinitely better than Casino Gamblers, or those who buy state lottery tickets at the supermarket.

    Individually, some will win big and some will lose. But the ceiling on losing is only what you invested, 100% of it, while there is no ceiling on winning, you can and many have made 10 and 100 times what they invested.

    These lotteries give back only 10% or so of what they collect, that’s why it is illegal for me to start one, only the thieves in Government can have them.

  34. Larry D. Says:

    What kind of scam is this? A plastic car looking a lot like the Smart, claiming to be a 2-seater mini family EV for $143? (down from only $499?). It even has A/C.

    I checked the calendar and it is not April 1st. $499 buys you an EV scooter in CHINA. $143 buys you a 1:18 detailed die cast premium model.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    33 Huh??? State lotteries have return rates of from ~20% to 80%.

    No, I don’t like them, and have never bought a ticket.

  36. Larry D. Says:

    35 so if you invest $1000, some lotteries give you back $200, and none gives you more than $800. Still proves why I am not allowed to start one in my garage.

    If buyers get just one ticket, it’s not a big deal, maybe they have lunch and skip the coffee or dessert. But there are addict gamblers who buy a whole lot of them every day. No wonder a well known econ prof and businessman in the old country called lotteries ‘stupidity tax”

  37. Kit Gerhart Says:

    34 That is crazy. If it existed for that price, even though it is a golf cart with a body, we would have heard about it. It looks like it uses five 12v lead acid batteries.

  38. Larry D. Says:

    “Musk’s moonshot pay package doesn’t seem crazy anymore

    Tesla’s market value on Tuesday reached $84.5 billion, almost as much as Ford and General Motors combined.”

    I remember when his pay package was made public a year or two ago, his pay would be huge if Tesla succeeded in the markets, and it did. He sure was confident about the prospects of his company, took a big risk, and was hugely rewarded. Don’t expect Hunpty Dumpty Hackett at Ford and especially Mary Barra at GM to have similar enormous spheres and propose the same for their currently obscene and utterly undeserved compensation.

  39. Kit Gerhart Says:

    36 The expected return ranges from 20-80%, not good, but a whole lot better than the 10% you pulled out of somewhere. Yeah, “stupidity tax,” or as I’ve heard, “moron tax.”

  40. Larry D. Says:

    35 There is something wrong with the map on the link. The legend has only two kinds of green, but on the map there are three, light, regular and dark green.

  41. Larry D. Says:

    39 These are NOT expected positive returns! Even if you get 80%, this is a MINUS 20% return, and for 20, it is MINUS 80%!

    The 10% was just an example I was given in a course, not actual stats, just to demonstrate that the same person who buys a lottery ticket is willing to lose 90% (or 80% acc to your site) of his investment, while at the same time he is very risk averse and buys Home Insurance for say a $100,000 home, for $200 a year, while the expected loss of his home is only $10 or so, since the probability of such a loss it tiny in any year.

    This behavior is not irrational, many are gamblers for small amounts and very risk averse for large ones.

  42. Kit Gerhart Says:

    40 Yeah, true, but if you really want to know the expected payout, the number will be shown if you put the cursor over the state on the map.

  43. Kit Gerhart Says:

    41 Expected payout, whatever. I’m sure you know what the numbers mean.