AD #2781 – New Hyundai i30 Unveiled; NTSB Rips Tesla & NHTSA Over Autopilot; NIO May Receive Bailout

February 26th, 2020 at 11:53am

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Runtime: 10:04

0:07 Global Sales Projected to Drop Due to Coronavirus
1:14 NIO May Receive Bailout
1:45 Rivian Struggling to Open Stores
2:31 NTSB Rips Tesla & NHTSA Over Autopilot
3:25 Slow I-Pace Sales Force American Axle to Adjust
4:24 Study Says Ride Hailing Increasing CO2 Emissions
5:29 PSA Reveals New DS 9 Luxury Sedan
6:42 Mahle Is Adapting to EV Growth
7:34 Lordstown Motors Receives First Order
8:21 New Hyundai i30 Unveiled

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35 Comments to “AD #2781 – New Hyundai i30 Unveiled; NTSB Rips Tesla & NHTSA Over Autopilot; NIO May Receive Bailout”

  1. Chris Says:

    Did the study on ride hailing and emissions take into account the reduced numbers of vehicles manufactured? Like NYC’s taxi and other public transport network, it allows many to not even own a car. Obviously, it’s probably a fairly small number of overall ride hailing users, but I’m sure at least some users would have to buy a car without it, and as we know, building a car has a huge environmental impact.

  2. Larry D. Says:

    A. the DS-9. Not bad for a car made in China, not? In fact, not bad even for a car made in Germany! Sleek exterior, pleasant interior (despite the utter absence of wood veneer in a ‘luxury’ car). But the name “DS” is the heir to the amazing DS 19 and 21 of the 50s and 60s, a car too advanced for its time, a copy of which is owned by John Mc, if I’m not mistaken.

    B. Compare the DS interior with the dreary, joyless, plastic grey and black interior of that cheap Hyundai. Light Years apart. In fact, few mass produced cars today have really attractive interiors.

    C. as for AAH, the topis is really of no interest to me. Who cares about racing robots?

  3. TheNickThomas Says:

    I think the new grille design language works much better on the i30 than the Sonata. The Sonata looks flat and square up front, and this is where the smaller rounder dimensions of the i30 really help! Plus, just look at that grille texture, far out!

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    This whole dealership requirement is such bologna especially when it comes to manufacturers that do not already have dealerships. There is no good reason to not allow manufacturers to sell direct to consumers. If I was Tesla or Rivian I would just partner with a global repair shop like Goodyear, Tireman, Midas and establish them as my dealer network. Sorta what Elio had planned with Pepboys.
    Speaking of Elio have they died a slow death or what?

  5. GM Veteran Says:

    Sean, the DS 9′s teardrop running light is a unique touch on an otherwise solid and attractive design that doesn’t really break any new ground. However, there is one feature that I am surprised you did not include in your report. The rear blinkers are tucked into the C pillar, nearly at roof height. This allows them to be seen more easily and hearkens back to the DS model of the 50′s that used a similar placement.

  6. GM Veteran Says:

    And, I agree with Larry. The DS 9 is a nice execution with a beautiful interior. Its a shame we won’t be able to buy or lease them here in the U.S.

  7. Lambo2015 Says:

    So no more business to American Axle from Merc or Jag after calling them out on the BS battery shortages. Don’t imagine they’ll be too thrilled to have their half baked excuse debunked.

    Autonomous racing? So its watching cars with no drivers run around a track? Sounds about as exciting as starting the washer and dryer at the same time to see which one finishes first.

    Actually this has potential to be detrimental to AVs. If they have any crashes it would just solidify consumer concern for this technology. I could see it being a useful learning tool for further development but not good as a spectator sport.

  8. Larry D. Says:

    Just got this email from my utility (DTE)

    “Did you know that charging an electric vehicle overnight is like paying around $1.00 per gallon of gas?

    Simply plug in at night and start each day fully charged when you install a Level 2 EV charger at your home. One hour of Level 2 charging can provide up to 30 miles of range, so you are ready to go each morning.

    Plus, through DTE’s Charging Forward Program, you could be eligible for a $500 rebate with the installation of a qualified Level 2 charger.”

    that charger does not seem very impressive. I wonder how much it costs, too, if you get a $500 rebate. And $1 a gallon equivalent does not sound too much of a bargain.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 I think autonomous racing would be interesting, at least at first, to see what the number, and nature of crashes would be. If they just go round and round with occasional passes, and nothing else, it would be boring very quickly, especially with no “favorite drivers” as many people have with regular racing.

  10. Victor West Says:

    The PSA new sedan would be great rebadged as a Chrysler for North America.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    If a significant part of the extra gas used by ride sharing is related to idling to keep A/C going, using hybrids would be a huge benefit. If I’m sitting in my car, I normally turn it off, and open a window, depending on the weather, but if it is 95 degrees, I’d leave the A/C on. Doing that with a Prius or Camry hybrid, the engine runs probably 10% of the time, at most, to keep the HV battery charged to keep the A/C going. Electric A/C, as Mahle is now making, would also be very worthwhile for 48 mild hybrids, for the same reason. Is electric A/C ever used with a regular ICE car with only a 12 volt system? I wouldn’t think there’d be enough battery, or alternator capacity for it to be worthwhile in that case.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I like the PSA sedan, as others here. If it is a good car, in how it drives, efficiency, refinement, etc., It might make sense to sell it in North America sometime in the future. As Victor suggests, sell it as a Chrysler, if the FCA-PSA merger happens.

  13. Lambo2015 Says:

    9 Yeah! Like I said I could see AV racing being interesting from the engineering/learning perspective of which manufacturer has the best system and which one could manage its way through the field effectively. Also which one is the worse and possibly ends in a crash. But as a regular spectator sport I think it would flash like battle bots did. Was cool for a couple years and then got old.
    The only way I think they could keep it exciting would be to introduce new obstacles with each race. A few fake children running lose on the track, add some rain or snow, tunnels and potholes, random stopped vehicles, stuff like that. Id watch that.

  14. Bob Wilson Says:

    I watch the NTSB hearing and their reasonable recommendations are in the web link. However, there were technical flaws: (1) did not discuss the radar unit but only optical sensors; (2) did not give a count or frequency of Autopilot updates (five in my first year), and; (3) NTSB kicked Tesla out of the investigation team. There is one sliver lining.

    The current administration is hostile to government regulations. I don’t see the NTSB having much success with their recommendations.

    BTW, the NTSB did not look at relative accident rates of Autopilot vs Teslas not using Autopilot and those Teslas that have turned off the other safety features. There will always be some fatal Autopilot accidents but looking at these without looking at the big picture, doesn’t bode well for the big pictures. Like “Bell the Hybrid,” focus on making hybrids and EVs make noise delayed pedestrian detection systems and ignores the “A” column width problem.

  15. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Maybe Infinity dropped their trademark for I30, never had one or sold it to Hyundai; anyway, when I saw the story on the Hyundai that’s where my mind went to. I30, i30; seems the same to me.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 I know people who do battle bots and drone racing, and have a lot of fun with it, but both have/had a limited lifetime as spectator sports on TV. I might have gotten interested in drone racing, had it existed when I was younger.

    Your ideas for autonomous racing would be good, especially the fake children, or deer and dogs running around on the track.

  17. NormT Says:

    You only need to use stop/start to your advantage as our Regal TourX stops the engine for about a minute and a half. I seldom idle and when I do I wish I had a little more stop time from the engine.

    Plus those that are mostly riding Lyft/Uber are 1-3 miles which a decade old ICE engine would be spewing much more that got 15-25 mpg highway.

  18. Ken Says:

    So tired of the media trying to scare the public and make a bigger threat out of the Coronavirus than need be. As I have read by the reputable media the Coronavirus is no more harmful or deadly than any regular strain of the flu. The big difference is that it has a much longer incubation period, so it is likely to spread further before people infected realize the are sick. The most likely to become very ill or die are the elderly, very young or those with a weakened immune system.

  19. Lambo2015 Says:

    18 Ken I agree, as the common flu kills between 300,000 to 600,000 people each year. What we don’t hear is that the people that have died from this Coronavirus have been elderly or had pre-existing health conditions. In fact the median age of the first 19 deaths was 75.
    Although I have read some great conspiracy theory’s like this was a bioweapon created by the Chinese government designed to weaken and subjugate freedom fighters in areas like Taiwan and Hong Kong.
    But the hype keeps people tuning in for the latest news and media outlets love that even if it is mostly hype. Seems to be similar when a thunderstorm rolls through the area. Watching the news you would think the end is near. Sensationalizing is big business.

  20. Carlson Says:

    Is there any evidence that any that have dies had received a flu shot this fall or even had one a year ago?

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18,19 Most of the world seems to be taking it seriously, so I’m not going to second guess actual epidemiologists who are concerned about it. Hopefully, it will just go away in a month or so, but we really don’t know what will happen.

  22. cwolf Says:

    All flu virus are different in characteristics. No two are alike and each one attacks the body in different ways. What is important is the infection rate; is it 10/100 people or 60/100 people? Everyone is alarmed because everything about this virus is an unknown.

  23. cwolf Says:

    I think any new manufacturer producing only EVs should be able to sell their product in any state. Those who make both EVs and ICEs feel they are at a disadvantage but this should be short lived. Buyers still want to test drive and kick the tires on the car they want to buy. They, who are selling both ,then, will have the upper hand. Call it a transition period.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    23 They should just work out arrangements with Walmart to make them dealers.

  25. cwolf Says:

    Don’t think that would be fair to all the dealerships and rules required of them. They should build there own establishments and follow the same guidelines.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 Maybe they could comply with the rules, if they wanted to. Maybe they wouldn’t want that business, though.

  27. Larry D. Says:

    19 You are off by a factor of 10. The flu does NOT kill 300-600,000 (I assume you mean in the US, not the WORLD) but 30-60,000 a year, which is still a HUGE number, but maybe most of the victims must have very weak immune systems and probably other health conditions.

    This epidemic has already killed thousands in CHina AND, worse, it has spread in dozens of other nations, including the US, and even Switzerland. In Italy, 50,000 are already quarantined. Korea has more than 1,000 cases.

    So we should and I think we are taking this extremely seriously. The US seems to be the best prepared to deal with it than any other of ther 200 or so nations, as a Johns Hopkins study indicates.

  28. Larry D. Says:

    21 It’s receding in CHina now, but it is spreading into all kinds of other nations every day.

  29. Larry D. Says:

    How many “technicians” does it take to fix a VW iD3 EV ‘software glitch”?

    a. 5
    b. 10
    c. 100
    d. 1,000 (!)
    e. 10,000 (!!!!!!)

    And what exactly is a “technician”? Is it some nerd with a computer science PhD or your corner Electrician?

    https://www.autonews.com/manufacturing/vw-id3-software-problems-threaten-summer-launch-europe-report-says?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20200226&utm_content=article17-image

  30. Larry D. Says:

    29 “Hey VW,

    If you give me $5 bill I can fix your software glitches.

    What, am I asking for too much? $5 bill? you paid six times that to fix your diesel scams!

    Love,

    ELON”

  31. Lambo2015 Says:

    27 The flu DOES kill 300k to 600k per year world wide.
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-does-the-flu-actually-kill-people/

    Quarantining people is precautionary and the right thing to do but still doesn’t equate to deaths. I was just saying I haven’t seen anything to indicate this flu is any more deadly than any other flu.

  32. Larry D. Says:

    31 I already said that in 27. I also CLEARLY STATED that in the USA it kills 30-60,000 each year. You are bringing coals to Newcastle.

  33. Larry D. Says:

    And actually it is extremely surprising that it only kills 600,000 in the world total, since the US has only 5% of the world population and we spend trillions on health care, WHILE the billions in India, Africa and Lat America, and even in China, have horrible hygienic conditions and poor health care. It should be 10 times that, 6 million, if the US has such a huge number, 30,000-60,000, the upper limit is more than ALL the traffic fatalities in one year, they are actually closer to the lower limit.

    I bet in the rest of the world there are millions unreported flu deaths not included in the 600,000.

  34. Kit Gerhart Says:

    33 While the US has good “high tech” medical capabilities, it has lousy preventive care, and basic access to health care for many millions, which may have to do with the high number of flu deaths for the size of the population.

    Yeah, there are probably a lot of unreported deaths around the world. Also, though, is it possible that people in places with poor hygienic conditions have better immune systems than people in the US, western Europe, etc.?

  35. Lambo2015 Says:

    32 You CLEARLY showed what an arrogant idiot you are. In an effort to correct my post which was correct. you stated. “You are off by a factor of 10. The flu does NOT kill 300-600,000″.
    Then when I cite the source you back track and say you didn’t say what is CLEARLY in print. Are you that delusional or so infatuated with being right all the time that you cant even admit when you are wrong and would rather pretend you didn’t say something you obviously did. You should become a politician. I’m amazed at your lack of comprehension about anything that you haven’t written yourself. I have no doubt you are single and for very good reasons.