AD #2817 – Ford Tests Social Distancing Wristbands; OEMs Using Private Vehicles to Make HD Maps; Production Picking Up

April 16th, 2020 at 11:54am

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Runtime: 10:46

0:07 Honda Temporarily Lays Off Salaried U.S. Workers
0:46 UK Approves Ventilator That Automakers Helped Develop
1:25 Ford Rolls Out Mobile Virus Testing
2:08 Ford Tests Social Distancing Wristbands at Plant
3:58 OEMs Mine Data from Private Vehicles to Make HD Maps
5:40 VW Lays Out Plan to Restart Production
6:18 Global Production Picking Back Up
6:31 Automakers Slash R&D Budgets
7:32 Musk to Face Lawsuit for “Taking Tesla Private” Tweet
8:15 Byton Teams Up for At-Home Charging
8:44 How Dealer Service Centers Are Keeping Cars Safe

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43 Comments to “AD #2817 – Ford Tests Social Distancing Wristbands; OEMs Using Private Vehicles to Make HD Maps; Production Picking Up”

  1. Larry D. Says:

    So says JD Power. Surprisingly optimistic predictions.

  2. Larry D. Says:

    Stunning “liftback” S class BEV. Sure looks like a “GOT TO HAVE IT” BEV and not another damn compliance econobox selling for $40k.

    ” the top-of-the-line EQ S, expected to be unveiled in 2022 prior to sales in 2023, offering over 600 hp and 663 lb.-ft. (900 Nm) of torque from a dual-motor setup.”

  3. WineGeek Says:

    John will the mobile eye system be able to be disabled at the owner’s discretion?

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2 It looks nice, but will probably cost $200K. If it’s price (and range) competitive with the Model S, it should do well.

  5. John McElroy Says:

    #3. Good question. It’s increasingly likely that car buyers will be presented with an “opt out” option on all data collection. But it’s just as likely that choosing “opt out” will result in a higher price, or less of a discount for a car or lease.

  6. Larry D. Says:

    4 No, it does not look ‘nice’, a Chevy Malibu may look ‘nice’, (and its current version looks identical to the late Impala) this looks stunning.

    And $200k is about $10k less than the far less luxurious, far less interior room, so-called Turbo Taycan. And at least you get an S class.

  7. Cozy cole Says:

    #3. How about a piece of tape over
    The camera lens.

  8. Jim Bielecki Says:

    Morgan Stanley and Deutsche Bank have both said that GM and Ford are currently burning through one billion dollars/week, and both risk running out of cash by August if their factories remain shut down. What are they spending money on that would amount to one billion dollars/week? What makes up their fixed costs? One billion dollars/week is a lot of money!

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6 Yeah, the Malibu and most recent Impala also look nice. The Benz has one advantage, though, in being a liftback, in addition to being much quicker.

    The Taycan is a Porsche, most of which are intended to be sporty, more than practical. As far as this new electric Benz, if the actual production version has S-Class cabin room, it will be much more practical than the Taycan, and if it costs a lot less, that will be a bonus. If they make a version similar in equipment and price to the now “base” Model S Long Range, it should do very well.

  10. Kevin A Says:

    John, Are you aware of any discussion about Trump banning imported cars to help bail out the domestic auto industry? Don’t worry about Congress objecting; Trump is soon going to dissolve Congress to better cope with the crisis. Yes, I know that is what Hitler did, but this is different .. isn’t it?

  11. Larry D. Says:

    In less than a year. Tesla Limo Service

  12. Barry Rector Says:

    On the question about Mobileye, would the ride hailing companies be a good source for getting data? The Uber & Lyft drivers go down a lot of streets throughout the day and night. Then Mobileye pay the drivers for the info. Just a crazy thought.

  13. Larry D. Says:

    4 PS if your $200k guess is right, then BY DEFINITION this Flagship Very PRemium S class BEV will NOT compete at all with the Model S. Not even its top versions. If a person wants to spend $200k on their BEV, their choice will be the stunning Merc or the “Turbo” Taycan which goes for $210k, and maybe other $200k exotics, BEV or not. Not a $70k-100k Model S.

    Again, read the lengthy interview of Porsche’s boss. Only the enthusiast mags test the Taycan vs the S. He sure did not intend it as a model S rival.

  14. GM Veteran Says:

    I think its funny how you guys get so excited by a concept car. Cause you know when the production version comes out you are going to be disappointed. And Larry, fawning all over a hatchback? Wow!

  15. MJB Says:

    Lincoln: Black Label
    Cadillac: Black Wing


    15) Don’t forget who started this whole color based scheme. The Mercedes black series.

  17. MJB Says:

    16. Ahhhhhh ;) Go it.

  18. MJB Says:

    “Got it”

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15,16 Carling Black Label beer

  20. Drew Says:

    Larry & Kit, when you are done drooling, take another look at the concept and cover-up theatrical-Star badge. Now, let me plant another image in your mind… an updated interpretation of a Chrysler Portofino Concept car. The grille/headlamp outline harkens the Chrysler 200. The teak deck-like planking on the instrument panel and door trim screams nautical.

    Yes, it is beautiful. But aside from badging, it doesn’t exude a Mercedes image or presence.

    Just another opinion. Nothing more.

  21. Drew Says:

    15, 16, 19

    Black Ball
    Black Eye
    Black Jack
    Black to the Future

    Hurry-up if you want legal rights…. before “The” Ohio State University catches on. Smile!

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I just watched AAH, and it was interesting, but I was very disappointed that my question that I e-mailed, and asked on the chat, of “why no naturally aspirated engines” was never asked of the Cadillac guy. Oh well.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 …unless it came up in the preliminary discussion before 3:00, which I missed part of.

  24. ChuckGrenci Says:

    22,23 Kit, that is a fair question and one I would have liked to have known as well, and no, it was not asked. Maybe four engines was more than they were willing to invest on in a low volume car. Especially in the CT5 it would have been my preferred engine in the base nodel.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 Between the two cars, they have the 2.0 turbo four, the 2.7 turbo four truck engine, the 3.0 turbo six, and if rumors are correct, the 6.2 supercharged eight. I’d think they could at least get rid of the 2.7, and use the 3.6 as a free standing option in both the CT-4 and CT-6. I guess I’d never make it as a product planner.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 I meant both the CT-4 and CT-5, not CT-6, where they do/did use the 3.6.

  27. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Point taken; I have the 3.6 in my CT6 (the 2.0 four turbo was also available) and even though they didn’t sell that many CT6′s most were 3.6′s. The LGX 3.6 is pretty terrific IMO and as you know runs on regular and has plenty of power with excellent fuel mileage considering the size of the car.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    27 The 3.6 works great in my friend’s Camaro.

  29. joe Says:

    Tesla is always in trouble for one thing or another. Whether it’s quality, how they treat their employees, crashes or downright lies, they keep humming. Other car companies would never survive if they had those problems. Tesla is cult-like and the followers keeps it going. One day though they won’t be so lucky.

  30. Larry D. Says:

    Yesterday I went to bed about 9 PM, read a little, slept from 9:30 PM to 5:30 AM and woke up earlier than I wanted to, and at 6 AM there was the latest BBC news on PBS.

    What do you know, the LEADING story was that CHINA CHEATED LIKE A DOG!!!!

    CHina arbitrarily increased its Wuhan deaths, (BBC Reported, NOT me!) by an almost exact 50%, to over 4,600, claiming, with a straight face, “data inaccuracis” or whatever.

    A few days ago one of these genius (and oh so unbiased) reported challenged Trump at his daily briefing, asking him how come the US has “so many deaths” (and never mind we, proportionally, do not even have ONE TENTH the deaths free health care SPAIN and ITALY already had!), while China had so few. Trump CORRECTLY and PROPHETICALLY told this idiot if he believes the date from this brutal DICTATORSHIP which imprisons the idiot’s colleagues whenever they try to tell the truth.

    Why do I post this here, you may ask? Because an equally pathological, compulsive Trump hater who vegetates in this forum daily, and whose name I will omit, he will be embarrassed enough), when I pointed to him (or her) the shameless lies and propaganda coming from China, he (incredibly) replied that he trusts the Chinese as much as he trusts his President and Commander in Chief!!!

    End of story. I hope he or she eventually wises up. But I doubt it.


  31. Bob Wilson Says:

    #29 – If you really want to see the Tesla Model Y problems, I’ve set my web link to the Sandy Munro, tear-down channel. He and his company are tearing the car down to bare metal with a cold, objective analysis of what Tesla did wrong. Unlike “Montana Skeptic,” Munro and Associates are hard core engineers with no sympathy for a poor job.

  32. Kit Gerhart Says:

    30 Of course, the Chinese government lies about things, including the covid-19 deaths, just as Trump lies about nearly everything. Yes, we all know that it is much easier to get in trouble for what you say in China, than in the U.S.

    BTW, the many deaths at home in NYC have not been counted as covid-19 related, but many are almost definitely from the virus, so “adjustments” of the numbers will be made.

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    31 Those are great videos. I’m surprised he makes them available for free on youtube.

  34. Larry D. Says:

    29 HAHAHAHAH!!!!

    Talk about being in the deepest of denials and at the pits of ignorance.

    Never let the GLORIOUS facts, Tesla’s EPIC ACHIEVEMENTS, put you out of your ignorance.

    I actually wonder what the heck you are doing in THIS Site. DO you EVER pay attention to what the EXPERTS say? How about MUNRO??????

    wallow in your ignorance if you choose. I’m glad you only surface once in two months to write your clueless drivel.

  35. Larry D. Says:

    If you luck out and catch the virus, AND, worse, need hospitalization, AND, even worse, need a respirator, and want to get well in a hurry, always ask for a Ferrari Respirator.

  36. Larry D. Says:

    35 Hey, here is an idea, Ferrari, why not also build a hospital, not for CV, but for all these drivers that crash in your F1 program. I was especially thinking of Shumacher. Did he get injured on the track or unrelated to F1? That sure was a devastating injury.

  37. bradley cross Says:

    Schumacher crashed skiing.

  38. Bob Wilson Says:

    One word of caution about COVID-19 deaths. There have been recent reviews of earlier deaths in nursing homes. Apparently earlier COVID-19 deaths were attributed to other causes. This helps explain why nursing homes became COVID-19 hot-spots … misdiagnosed cause of death.

    This happens in every country.

  39. Bob Wilson Says:

    About the Munro videos, I’ve ‘asked’ two questions, $50 each. They are also auctioning off parts from their earlier Model 3 and current Model Y tear-down. They keep at least one example but if there is more than one, it goes on sale for auction. Better than going to a junk yard and possibly cheaper than Tesla new parts.

  40. Larry D. Says:

    38 Nursing homes were always expected to be HUGE centers of CV-19 infections AND deaths, because

    1. You cannot have any social distancing. The same person at home alone has infinitely higher chance of survival than in a nursing home.

    2. All the residents are well over the age limit of the most vulnerable group for CV.

    3. Many have pre-existing serious health conditions, if they did not they would not need to be in a home. Deaths from CV occur especially if the patient has several pre-existing conditions.

    4. 3 is the reason why CV is especially deadly in African Americans over 65 (or even much younger), because they have a far higher rate of Diabetes, Hypertension, Lung problems and kidney problems than the average American.

  41. Larry D. Says:

    40 PS AND Obesity, often Morbid Obesity (BMI well over 40)

  42. Bob Wilson Says:

    John and team, I hope you’ all might think about a better way to get support from your viewers and give us options:

    (1) User subscription – we pay a monthly or annual fee and are liberated from ‘the ads.’ Paying to watch a promotion is no fun.
    (2) COVID-19 support – a series of one-time donations, perhaps monthly, that when the advertisers come back, we can stop. After all, I’m already supporting Sandy Munro’s videos.
    (3) Supporting user – someway we can be identified as a supporting user for ‘flagged’ questions. No, you don’t have to answer us when we ask something dumb. But at least know we’re there and perhaps a summary, private e-mail at the end of the week, we can learn from your team’s experience.

  43. joe Says:


    I bet a lot more people would comment if you never came to this site. You think you know it all and when someone writes something you don’t like, you try to tear them down.