AD #3016 – Chevy Unveils New Bolt EV & EUV; Nissan Shoots Down Apple Partnership; Peugeot Launches New Pickup

February 15th, 2021 at 11:56am

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Runtime: 10:30

0:08 Oil Prices Hit 13-Month High
1:02 Nissan Shoots Down Apple Partnership
2:11 Tesla to Open Manufacturing Plant in India
4:24 Mercedes Issues Huge Recall Over Software Problem
5:13 Peugeot Launches New Pickup
6:32 Chevrolet Unveils New Bolt EV & EUV

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35 Comments to “AD #3016 – Chevy Unveils New Bolt EV & EUV; Nissan Shoots Down Apple Partnership; Peugeot Launches New Pickup”

  1. Ron Paris Says:

    ELMS=Electric last mile solutions”.

  2. Kevin A Says:

    … if Keystone XL pipeline was in place, the US could benefit from $47/bbl Western Canada Select crude. Oh well.

  3. ChuckGrenci Says:

    And maybe higher gas prices as the Keystone Pipeline gets cancelled? We’ve, in my area, are seeing up to almost 40 cents increase in regular grade gasoline (some stations cheaper, some higher). Just an observation, and I’m sure there are multiple reasons for the increase.

  4. Dave Says:

    With the announcement of a Tesla plant in India’s tech hub area after announcing the sale of Teslas in India, with sales of Teslas in Israel imminent and Tel Aviv being a major world tech hub and it seems all their plants seem to be near major tech hubs well ??

  5. Kevin A Says:

    Sean, Wouldn’t Stellantis be a better partner for Apple? Tavares committed to no job losses and no plant closures. This might be an opportunity to get rid of a US and an EU factory to Apple.

  6. Kevin A Says:

    Any chance of that Peugeot truck becoming the new Dakota?

  7. Drew Says:

    A comparison of the Bolt EUV and the MachE seems inevitable. Watch out Ford… the Mustang name has to overcome a price disadvantage (particularly if Biden extends GM’s EV credits) and an upholstery disadvantage (the Chevy comes with either cloth or leather upholstery vs. vinyl-only… er… ActiveX… in the MachE).

  8. Don Sherman Says:

    would be nice to know how cargo volumes compare between the BEV and EUV versions of the Chevy Bolt. Plus 3-inches of rear legroom acknowledged but no one has thus far reported the larger edition’s gain in rear cargo room.

  9. Lambo2015 Says:

    I’m not sure how the Apple partnership is being presented, but it sounds like Apple wants to be in control and manage the build while capitalizing on the expertise of an established manufacturer. Use them to avoid making the mistakes traditional builders have learned over the years like Elon learned the hard way.
    Tesla designed their car in the bubble of California weather and as they are now seeing some snow a common complaint is the lack of the drip track when opening the trunk. Tesla’s allow snow and rain to just drip into the trunk when the lid is open.

    To avoid these sort of design flaws it would make sense for Apple to partner with a seasoned builder, and Magna would be a good choice for them. They are a supplier and have no problem building to a customers specifications and yet they also have the experience to lead Apple from making mistakes. I doubt any OE is going to want to be a supplier to Apple.

  10. cwolf Says:

    8) The EUV cargo space is actually 0.3″ smaller than the SUV. So what you get is more rear leg room and the same cargo size.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    This article explains quite a bit about the Keystone XL pipeline, and the existing Keystone pipeline, and has a map showing the proposed, and existing lines.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30103078

    The whole idea of extracting the tar sands oil doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, when there is no shortage of oil. It takes far more energy to extract it than other forms of oil.

  12. 2doorit Says:

    @6 Kevin, one can only hope, especially if they bring the two door version, something missing from the mid-size market place here in the US for some asinine reason.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Won’t Tesla probably make a different, smaller car in India, to sell in India? It would seem so, based on what I know of autodom in India, albeit based on a few years ago.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’d expect the Lantrek pickup to be very “rough around the edges” for North American tastes, since it was apparently designed for the middle eastern and African markets where most pickup trucks are used for actual work, and low price is important. Maybe these will take some of the Taliban and ISIS market from Toyota HiLux.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 The Bolt and Mach-E are in kind of different markets, the Chevy being FWD, and mainly utilitarian, with no pretense of being particularly sporty. The Ford is RWD/4WD, and probably faster, even in the base form.

    I hope the Bolt sells better with the refresh, and the new EUV version. I know a couple owners who like them a lot, but the frumpy styling, so-so interior, and of course, price has hurt sales.

  16. ArtG Says:

    WRT the 2022 Bolt story, I don’t see mention of Chevrolet’s offer of standard 240V charging outlet at the customer’s primary residence:

    “Offer available to eligible customers who purchase a 2022 Bolt EV or EUV between 2/14/21 and 6/31/21. Home charging installation promotion includes purchase and installation of a 240V outlet (NEMA 14–50 outlet and new 40-amp breaker in existing panel) from a GM selected vendor. Installation must be located at Customer’s primary residence as reported on the Customer’s vehicle purchase order. Additional costs to the Customer may apply. Customers who do not meet parameters for a standard installation may be eligible for alternative charging offers. Additional information and limitations, including but not limited to, how to take advantage of this promotion, will be available closer to the start of production of 2022 Bolt EV and EUV.”

  17. Sean Wagner Says:

    9 Lambo – Agreed, Apple is just looking for a conduit to the market. They must have one amazingly integrated platform in mind to think their margins will carry over.

    As for India, this must be where Sandy Munro presents the Tesla Tuk-Tuk. Can’t wait! No, I’ll never ride through Mumbai mayhem in a Plaid variant.

    What’s the fuss about that pipeline again?

  18. Sean Wagner Says:

    Just one little niggle: WTI is the abbreviation for West Texas Intermediate.

  19. wmb Says:

    @6) Bringing that Peugeot truck to the US, they will run into issue of federalizing it to run on US roads, which can be costly. They maybe do better just reworking the Gladiator as a Ram Dakota.

    While I’m sure the Bolt and Bolt EUV are each a technical tour de force, styling wise, they do not say ‘leave your ICE and join the BEV’ movement like the Mach-E, Tesla’s, Taycan, e-tron GT and the VW ID 4 and 5. Their price is VERY attractive, but I could get a nicely equipped Equinox and an entry level Blazer for that amount (not including federal incentives). I think Ford would have run into the same issue, if they had simply styled the Mach-E after the C-Max or something simular, like they were going to do at first. With it not having Tesla rage, fast charging and 0-60, it would have been a great BEV that could easily have been over looked by more exciting vehicles. The Mach-E, on the other hand, say what you want about its name and styling (and it’s price point too), has people talking and getting in a long line to get theirs! This is despite not having quite the range of a Tesla or a dedicated Ford charging Network. Honestly, had Ford made their EV an electric C-Max, I don’t think they would have priced it too much more then these Bolts. But as a vehicle with a name and styling direction that is associated with the Mustang, it seems that buyers do not have a problem paying $50K before government incentives.

  20. merv Says:

    2 and Alberta would be back in business so good for both economies

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    20 If they want to extract the stuff, they should use nuclear reactors of the type used to power aircraft carriers to generate the steam needed, rather than burning oil or gas as they do now. As far as shipping it out, they could just build a short pipeline through Alberta and B.C., and ship it to Asia from the Vancouver port, or whatever B.C. port would be easiest to connect by pipeline.

  22. rick Says:

    peugeot launches new pickup, there’s your new/next ram dakota.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 If the Peugeot truck were intended for sale in western Europe, it wouldn’t take much to federalize it, but since it is apparently being designed for “3rd world” markets, yeah, it might be expensive just to make it legal for the US market. Then, there is the “chicken tax.”

    They could make a Dakota from the Gladiator, but they wouldn’t be able to charge inflated Jeep prices, so it might be counterproductive for the company to do it.

  24. Earl Says:

    9….The automotive industry could be intimidated by the fact that Apple has a 100 billion of cash on hand. They could invoke the Golden Rule on an existing car company. In business the Golden Rule is….he who has the gold sets the rules.

  25. Scott-in-Cleveland Says:

    Isn’t the Bolt EUV just an electrified version of the Chevy Trailblazer?

  26. Sean Wagner Says:

    There’s also that little detail that the price of oil is set on the world market.

    A small discount may apply if the crude can be refined at a nearby, compatible facility, but that’s about it, in my non-expert accumulated wisdom.

    And I agree with Kit that tar sands are really too dirty an option in an era of abundant, easily accessed oil.

    The Midwest might actually pay a little more if a new pipeline out of Alberta gets built, but that’s not what moves the needle in a serious manner.

    There’s plenty of far more serious stuff that requires attention.

    Like why the slightly enlarged Chevy EV is so hideous, and might sell nevertheless.

    I find the compact Toyota C-HR (also sold in Europe) of similar size far less tacky.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    26 Is the C-HR sold with diesel engines in Europe?

  28. Sean Wagner Says:

    27 Not that I know of. I checked and nothing comes up – but there’s a hybrid that seems to be quite popular in Switzerland, at least.

    The car also comes in a medium-green metallic that makes me drool and initially popped up in the seventies, I think.

  29. Kit Gerhart Says:

    28 My 1974 Plymouth Duster was medium green metallic. I miss the option of getting cars in colors other than 7 shades of grey.

  30. Sean Wagner Says:

    29 Amazing! Just the kind of combo I pictured. Yes, we don’t get many twists in our sobriety nowadays. On the other hand, VW has an optional “Spectrum” color program (available only on select models, I surmise).

    Quote (Aug 15, 2018): “Viper Green Metallic, originally found on the European Mk 3 Scirocco, and later featured on the Lamborghini Huracán, has been the most popular color to date in Canada.”

    Source https://www.media.vw.com/en-us/releases/1065/

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    30 Porsche allows order of almost any color on some models, including Cayman when I was considering ordering one in 2019. The special order colors were pricey, though, $8000 as I remember. From your link, it’s a bargain price of only $2500 on the Golf R.

  32. Warwick Dundas Says:

    I was interested in Sean’s comment that the new Peugeot utility vehicle carried a 1 ton payload. Is it a short ton, long ton or a tonne. It can make a lot of difference as NASA can testify. See the following article.

    https://asseteng.com.au/whats-difference-ton-tonne-one-heavier/#:~:text=Both%20are%20a%20unit%20of,tonne%20is%20a%20Metric%20measurement.&text=Each%20has%20a%20different%20weight,grams%20or%20one%20thousand%20kilograms.

  33. Ukendoit Says:

    Regarding the pipeline, I used to work for an oil & gas management company and it is full of stop & go, boom & bust, on again/off again. The industry is used to this and there are built in buffers since they rely on so much legislation, approvals, and land sales to individuals. I wouldn’t feel sorry for the companies involved or expect much price change from that.
    I do/did feel sorry for the landmen that work on the projects. They are nomadic, and go where the projects take them for months at a time and make great money when working, but only the older seasoned landmen plan for the future. When the younger ones get a job making lots of money, instead of investing most of it and living off a budget, they blow it immediately on new trucks and houses for their family, then go bankrupt when they are out of work for a year or more, scrambling to get on the next project.
    Before I left that job, the brokers were just starting to focus on right of way projects for power transmission lines involved in clean energy projects. Just like cigarette companies buying up other businesses as cigarettes went out of fashion, the dirty energy companies see the writing on the wall and are looking at ways to remain relevant. The jobs will adapt and transform as renewables evolve to become more efficient and the dirty energy methods wane.

  34. Kit Gerhart Says:

    33 Interesting post. We keep hearing about the thousands of jobs a pipeline would create, for a few years, and then it takes about 35 people to to operate the pipeline after it’s done. I’d wondered where those workers come from, and where they go after the construction is complete. Your experience is about what I expected. Boom and bust for the workers, and not much of a “normal” life for them.

  35. Ukendoit Says:

    Kit, that’s right, its not a “normal” life, but it can be a good living for those without families, or some of them were husband & wife teams. I’ve heard people saying that thousands of people lost their jobs, but they are used to this and don’t even consider these potentials “jobs” until they actually start working. Even then, the big oil/gas companies change what crew size they want all the time. They tell the brokers to cut 200 by the end of the week or add 50 to this other project, and we would have to drop the news to the crew or scramble to find crew willing to go to a new location. If you can budget well to ride the ups & downs, its not bad, just very transient.