AD #3025 – Jeep Introduces Half Doors for Wrangler; Nissan Claims Engine Breakthrough; Peugeot Unveils New Logo

February 26th, 2021 at 11:54am

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Runtime: 10:50

0:08 Nissan Claims Engine Breakthrough
1:16 Auto Stocks Dip
1:44 Peugeot Unveils New Logo
3:33 Mercedes Creates Apps for Wary EV Customers
4:26 Jeep Introduces Half Doors for Wrangler
5:33 Lordstown Reveals Race Truck
5:57 Toyota Partners to Test Mobility in Indiana
7:10 Magna Breaks Ground on New Plant in Michigan
7:33 Fisker Wants to Form Battery Cell Partnership
8:02 Tesla Shifting More Cars to LFP Batteries
8:42 LG Preparing Tesla 4680 Cell Pilot Production
9:18 The History Behind the Manual Pedal Setup

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33 Comments to “AD #3025 – Jeep Introduces Half Doors for Wrangler; Nissan Claims Engine Breakthrough; Peugeot Unveils New Logo”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Will we ever get any real fuel economy information about “e-power”? Nissan keeps bragging about it, now with their efficient one-speed engine, but we never hear much about how that 10-15% loss in a generator, and 10-15% loss in a motor, along with some charge-discharge loss in batteries works out it actual fuel economy.

  2. Buzzerd Says:

    I’ve always liked the Peugeot emblem but news just broke today that L.A.G.- Lion’s Advocacy Group, which is a group of people advocating for lions has asked Peugeot to not use the image of a lion anymore. The group has said ” the image of a lion is one of intimidation and strength and no one has ever intimidated someone in a Peugeot”

  3. Marshy Says:

    Did I hear right $1000+ a door for the Jeep package?

    They are pricing the wrangler right out of their target aspirational market. People in their 20s and 30s are potential Jeep buyers, but aren’t likely to have the cash to buy wranglers these days. I’ve opened a TJ/JKU Jeep for 21 years. Wont buy another (at least new) ever again – too $$.

  4. Lex Says:

    Does FCA – Jeep still own the nameplates for the AMC Brand? Maybe Jeep should rename the Cherokee and Grand Cherokee to one of the AMC nameplates like Eagle, Talon, Stealth, Javelin or Hornet.

    The names Eagle and Eagle Sport could replace Grand Cherokee and Cherokee.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The vehicle called Liberty in the US was called Cherokee in most other markets.

    Really, I think Jeep should work out some kind of amicable agreement with the Cherokees, even it involved paying them some money. As much as they now spend on advertising, if they gave the tribe $10/vehicle sold, it would be nothing in comparison to money spent on advertising. Jeep has used the Cherokee name so long, that it would take a while to get used to a new name, even if it were a “good” name, rather than 3 letters, or something like that.

  6. Wim van Acker Says:

    @3: yes, people in their 20-30s is one target group. Some of my son’s friends buy those and add extra lift kits, 35″ tires and colored wheel rims. They love their Jeeps and say that Jeep stands for “Just Empty Everything from You Pockets”.

    Another group is my age group (early 60s) which includes posers like me who buy Jeeps with everything which has been invented. Reason: “it is now or never”. I have driven “responsible parent and serious executive” vehicles for years and now it is my turn to have a fun vehicle. I bought a Wrangler last year with the turbo diesel engine and all options available. My son’s girlfriend gave me a red “Fire Missiles” button to replace the cigarette lighter with, which looks really cool.

  7. Lambo2015 Says:

    Nissan really confused me with their claim to match a BEV in life cycle CO2 emissions with their hybrid. So they’re saying the smaller battery is enough savings to justify the on-board ICE and a battery? That’s seems hard to believe. I do like the idea of the smaller battery = lighter, engine to extend range and EV power to provide the quick seemless power. If the engine is as quiet and a Honda generator it should be pretty nice set up.

    The workhorse van creeps me out without a grille. It reminds me of the horror pictures of people with no facial features.

    I like the new Peugeot emblem as I always found it weird to see the lion up on his hind legs. Didn’t look right to me.

    Mercedes should be careful with their EV app. They may find out that once consumers realize they are only saving a few hundred dollars a year to drive an EV they may decide ist not worth the added hassle.

    Jeep half doors; most consumers want them because they eliminate the window track. So I assume for that price you get the zip in plastic windows? You know for a fraction of that price you can get aftermarket tubular doors. I wouldn’t expect many takers at that price.

    Sean like the bit on the clutch pedal.. Nice!

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’ve known a couple “baby boomers” who bought Wranglers after they gave up riding their Harleys.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 Nissan is probably using coal fired, rather than wind powered EVs for their comparison.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Fortunately, the world has stayed with the Prussian army’s pedal arrangement, even for RHD cars. That would be tough to work a clutch with the right foot, after being used to left foot clutches for 50 years. I’ve driven only a few RHD cars. Working the shifter with the left hand was no problem, but reversing the pedals would have been, or would take some serious getting used to.

  11. Lambo2015 Says:

    Well, don’t I feel like a stupid American? I thought Prussian was just a pronunciation mistake by Sean. Not that I ever claimed to have much 15th-17th century German history. I didn’t realize Germany only stopped using the name in 1934 and allies abolished the state in 1947. Learn something new everyday Thanks again!

  12. Wim van Acker Says:

    @11: did you think Sean said “Russian”? :-)

  13. Ziggy Says:

    The “new” Peugeot symbol looks almost exactly like the 1960 one in the graphic you showed, so what is new about it Sean?

  14. Buzzerd Says:

    Speaking of standards I saw TV show the other day that was testing a Mercedes and the auto box didn’t behave the usual PRNDL arrangement. I think reverse was on top. Why would someone do such a thing.

  15. XA351GT Says:

    Kit @#10 Yeah my Aussie falcon is RHD and that was a question I got asked a lot was is the peddles laid out backwards and also about the shift pattern. Easiest way for me to explain it was it exactly the same as LHD you just sit 3 to the right and shift with your left hand. To which many people would just go oh no I could never do that. Many look at you like your a space shuttle pilot. I try to explain it is not all that different. You do have t make small adjustments but nothing major

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    12 I wasn’t really sure if he was saying Russia or Persia or just messed up until a saw the transcript. So of course I had to google Prussia.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 Driving an RHD car, shifting with my left hand was no big deal, but if the pedals were reversed, it would have been a much bigger deal.

    I’ve heard that that some RHD cars had the shift pattern reversed, with 1-2 on the right for a 4-speed, but I never saw one that way when I was in Scotland for a year. That would be easy enough to get used it, if anyone actually did that. Maybe what I heard was not even true.

  18. Ukendoit Says:

    Re: Jeep pricing Wrangler out of their demographic; I think the Wrangler is the new “mid-life-crisis sportscar”. I keep hearing about more and more of my middle aged friends getting these expensive loaded rigs and I think that’s the demographic they are going for.
    As far as Prussia knowledge, since my family is all German and I’m into looking up ancestry info, I was familiar with it, but I doubt most Americans are familiar with Prussia.
    Thanks for the pedal history, that was very interesting.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16 Persia is now called Iran. Maybe you knew that.

    14 PRNDL worked so well for many years, both with column and console shifters. GM got rid of the funny Hydramatic shift pattern in, I think, the late ’50s, and Chrysler quit using push buttons in 1965. There was never anything confusing about Chrysler’s push buttons, but there was no particular reason to use them.

    I remember a few years ago, there was a crash in Pennsylvania of a commuter train into a Mercedes SUV, killing 5 or 6 people. There was speculation that the driver of the Mercedes didn’t find reverse quickly to get off the tracks, because it was a non-standard arrangement that she wasn’t used to.

  20. Joe C. Says:

    I like the new Peugeot emblem way more than the old Lion standing on its hind legs and with arms up flailing about.
    Nice to learn how the clutch pedal layout came about. thanks Sean.

  21. Merv Peters Says:

    2 good one lol

  22. Al C Says:

    I have seen a RHD English car with the shift stick on the right hand side of the seat in the 50s. My friend had a 4 speed column shift in a Hilman that was tough to get in to reverse

  23. Eric Brunner Says:

    Quite a few years ago now, I had to drive from the south of England all the way up to Scotland. Visited customers each day. I had a MK IV Cortina Ghia (bigger than the original MK I & II). Was a manual 4 speed. What I found interesting was, being the usual right handed person, I could have my strong right hand always on the steering wheel and the action of shifting with my left hand and working the clutch with the usual left foot became much more in sync between the left hand and foot. Almost like a dance between the two. When you think about it, driving a manual LHD car,you have the diagonal effect of the right hand and the left foot. Not quite with the same ease as in a RHD car.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 Years ago, I saw an old RHD Rolls-Royce at a show, probably 1930s, with the shifter to the right of the driver’s seat. They probably did that to make the front seat better for 3 people. Would the LHD version have had the shifter left of the seat?

  25. Bobby T Says:

    I recall that the 1927 American La France fire truck that the town I grew up in had RHD with the shift lever outside the door less open cab. Once I asked a designer(draftsman) who wasn’t familiar with RHD vehicles to create a RHD pedal package for one of our LHD vehicles. He had it done in short order, but when I looked at it I discovered that he had done a mirror image of the LHD package. We all got a laugh out of that.

  26. Sean Wagner Says:

    Buzzerd – Thanks for the levity!

    About Nissan E-Power: 50% thermal efficiency is only announced – they’re presently at 40% in a production vehicle. Which isn’t so much more than a good modern engine, but these gains are really hard to come by.

    This kind of hybrid should benefit from being able to run the engine close to optimum efficiency, when about half that dominates driving regimes.

    So in a first approximation, almost double the power output per gallon. If 20% of that is lost by additional conversions, the maximum gain still is 60% (and ride quality benefits too).

    Quote form Reuters:
    Nissan did not disclose when the e-POWER technology with 50% thermal efficiency would be launched.
    Unquote.

    I’ve been wondering why there’s no truly powerful pickup or luxury SUV drivetrain of that design available. A Cadillac Escarole, er, Escapiste, oh blast… anyway, loads of smooth power and torque.

    And ducks in the emblem.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    26 I’d definitely go for ducks on the Cadillac emblem.

    As far as e-power, I’ve always been a skeptic, but am patiently waiting for them to actually sell a car with that powertrain in the US or Europe, where there would be government and magazine tests so we can learn the real fuel economy it would get under various driving conditions.

  28. Sean Wagner Says:

    27 I read up on the “duckies” again – had completely forgotten they represent merlettes. Cadillac has streamlined its emblem so much it’s become anodyne.

    As for super-efficient hybrids, maybe there’s a small window of opportunity (I’m curious how far the concept can go) – wouldn’t this be an ideal occasion for companies to pool basic engine procurement as discussed previously?

    A standard Atkinson-cycle design in four- and six-cylinder guise would do the trick.

  29. Sean Wagner Says:

    25 I can picture the fire truck perfectly – had a model of it once, and you’ve jogged my memory. How nice! Great story of your typical everyday snafu too.

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    28 Apparently there has been some sharing of the basic design of the 2 MG/power splitter hybrid system Toyota calls “hybrid synergy drive.” Ford used a similar system in the Fusion hybrid, but the Camry hybrids got about 20% better mpg. I’ve wondered why the Toyotas did better. Maybe the most likely reason is that they did a better job with the Atkinson cycle engine.

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25,29 A few years ago, I saw an old fire truck at a show, and the engine was very memorable. It was a four cylinder with individual bolt on cylinders, with triple ignition. I don’t remember ever seeing triple ignition on an engine, before or since. It may have been American LaFrance, but not sure.

  32. Sean Wagner Says:

    31 Fascinating – have never heard of the like. Sounds almost like an experimental engine.

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    32 This may be the engine, but there isn’t enough detail in the photo to tell for sure. I see only one distributor in the picture, so it’s probably not the one. Maybe someone out there can identify this engine.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/kitgerhart/50993177037/in/dateposted/