AD #3109 – Panasonic Pockets Billions on Tesla Share Sale; Ferrari’s New PHEV; Next-Gen XC90 Coming Standard w/ AV Tech

June 25th, 2021 at 11:47am

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Runtime: 11:26

0:07 Bipartisan Infrastructure Plan Reaches Tentative Deal
1:01 Panasonic Pockets Billions on Tesla Share Sale
1:41 AWS Steals Ford’s CTO
2:56 New Package Improves Wrangler’s 4X4 Capability
3:59 Mahindra Fights for Thar in Australia
5:09 STMicroelectronics Signs Deals with Renault & Arrival
6:08 Ferrari’s First V6 Road Car Is a PHEV
7:39 CT4-V Blackwing Has Highest Downforce in V-Series History
8:54 Lots of Cobalt on the Bottom of the Ocean
9:53 Next-Gen XC90 Coming Standard with AV Tech

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41 Comments to “AD #3109 – Panasonic Pockets Billions on Tesla Share Sale; Ferrari’s New PHEV; Next-Gen XC90 Coming Standard w/ AV Tech”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Wasn’t the Ferrari Dino a V6?

  2. Fred Says:

    Ferrari 206 and 246 GTs had V6 engines!

  3. Buzzerd Says:

    If you’re Mahindra why would you make a vehicle that you KNOW is going to be challenged legally? You have too many bored lawyers? Why not just change the looks in the first place.

  4. Wim van Acker Says:

    @1, 2 that is a lot of power out of the ICE, if I understand it correctly. Total power 840 HP, of which 170 HP from the electromotor. So 670 HP from the ICE. If Ferrari applied their usual nomenclature (the figure representing the displacement volume in cubic centimeters per cylinder) the ICE has 6*296 = 1,776 cubic centimeters.

    So I get to 670 HP from a 1.8 L engine. Do you think I have calculated that correctly?

  5. Dave Says:

    Yes 1971 Dino was V6 with 12 spark plugs saw one while visiting Elvis at Graceland

  6. Wim van Acker Says:

    @Autoline Team: very interesting report on Autoline Weekly on using biomaterials in automotive manufacturing. Cutting edge, thank you!

  7. wmb Says:

    @1,2,4,5.) As I understand (and I may be wrong) the Dina was a sub brand 9f Ferrari. So while the V6 was a Ferrari, much like Lincoln is a Ford, this 8s the first Ferrari V6.

  8. John McElroy Says:

    The Dino V6 road car was never branded as a Ferrari. Only the V8 Dino road car was branded as a Ferrari.

  9. Sean McElroy Says:

    Here is a direct quote from the Ferrari press release, “This is the first 6-cylinder engine installed on a road car sporting the Prancing Horse badge…”

  10. Tony Gray Says:

    Roxor’s are an absolute rip off of the CJ/Wrangler. If I was the Judge this case would have taken 30 seconds to settle.

  11. Fstfwrd Says:

    The story goes that the Dino wasn’t a real Ferrari and never had a Ferrari badge on it. Enzo would not approve it as it didn’t have a 12 cyl. engine. Only lately have these been accepted by the Ferrari people and called Ferraris. ??? Just saying.

  12. ChuckGrenci Says:

    While stationed at Great Lakes Naval Training Command I took a walk to Lake Forest where I found a Ferrari dealership. As I was gawking at the cars, a Dino and a 365 (I think), I asked the salesman the prices, and probably knowing I was from the Navy and wasn’t buying, still humored me and answered my questions: 15k for the Dino, 25 for the 365. I said I guess you don’t sell many at 25k, and he said, if you’ve got 15k, you’ve got 25. So naïve was I back then. A Corvette at the same timeframe was 6k; money was worth much more back then.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 Yeah, I guess the Dino wasn’t a Ferrari, like Scion iM wasn’t a Toyota. I kind of remember Enzo not considering the Dino quite a real Ferrari.

  14. GM Veteran Says:

    So, names aside, when owners drive this high-performance Ferrari into the city center of Paris or the other cities where they no longer allow ICE powertrains, this car will have a whopping 170 hp on tap. The last GM car I drove with a 3800 V6 had more horsepower!

    On the bright side, at least they will be able to drive it anywhere they want, as long as they don’t have to drive too far on electric only.

  15. GM Veteran Says:

    Panasonic – smart finance team! I think they realizes Tesla is probably at its peak right now. The competition is starting to bite into their EV sales dominance, and that will only continue as more models roll out from more manufacturers. A year from now, the stock price may be dramatically lower. The Cybertruck, the Semi and the Roadster altogether won’t generate the same revenue as a volume entry like the Model 3, so the future outlook for Tesla is not very positive. With emissions credits revenue drying up soon, they won’t have as much capital to direct to R&D and new plants. They will become a mature automaker with the same challenges that Ford and Toyota have.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Yesterday, I talked to my friend with the Tesla Model S that he drove from Seattle to Muncie, Indiana. He didn’t mind the frequent, and long stops compared to a gas car, not minding if the trip took 5 days, and he found some of the other people at the chargers interesting to talk to.

    He was one of the last people to get “free supercharging for life” with the car, and it turned out that using the free charging from his final destination required a 42 mile trip, each way, to another town for the nearest supercharger.

  17. Lambo2015 Says:

    16 That sounds super inconvenient. Not sure I’ve ever been on a road trip where I didn’t care how long it took.. Maybe when I retire.

  18. Sean Wagner Says:

    16 Kit – Interesting! I’ve been waiting for your update. That’s quite the leisurely pace – and why not when time’s aplenty. Some people would make that 42 mile trip for free gas too. At least he definitely likes driving his Model S.

    I saw a P100D with a gorgeous white/carbon interior that featured black Alcantara applications to the dashboard. Fantastic. And already superseded.

    COBALT – I just have to pipe up about this. Anyone who’s seen how the big industrial mining operations work will know that artisanal extraction constitutes a fraction of that output (and mostly goes to China).

    Here’s an authoritative source (Benchmarkminerals) presenting some salient points: https://bit.ly/3gUsauU

    Lastly, the Ferrari. Its clean lines remind me not a little of the beautiful 512 Berlinetta Boxer. Very nice work. Weak electric sidekick.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17 He’s retired.

    18 He was in Indiana for an event that had major lulls, so the 84 mile round trip was during “spare time.” The one time I made a similar trip, I think I took about 3 1/2 days, but I was in my 40s, and drove a long first day.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Is Ferrari making the new car a V6 turbo hybrid to make it more like an F1 car than their other road cars?

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 That’s the one time I made a similar trip between Indiana and Washington state, I took about 3 1/2 days, not a trip between two Indiana towns 42 miles apart.

  22. wmb Says:

    So is Ferrari calling this vehicle they’re 1st V6, so that the Dino maintains it’s status as a collector’s item? While at the same time creating an instant classic with this being the 1st Ferrari V6?

  23. wmb Says:

    So is Ferrari calling this vehicle they’re 1st V6, so that the Dino maintains it’s status as a collector’s item? While at the same time creating an instant classic with this being the 1st Ferrari V6?

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22,23 It’s also their first turbo plug-in hybrid, making it double collectable.

  25. Warwick Dundas Says:

    Sean

    Thanks for running the story on Mahindra’s continuing efforts to use a Jeep style grill. I thought North American viewers would be interested in their attempt to get away with it in a different part of the world.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Somehow, I don’t care much about the Mahindra thing. It’s a non-street legal thing that in no way competes with current Jeep products.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Does Fisher-Price pay Chrysler/FCA/Stellantis for the privilege of making Hot Wheels Jeeps, or is it just considered free advertising?

  28. Earl Says:

    Another source of Cobalt is in Ontario, Canada. The mining town just happens to be named Cobalt. A 5 hour drive north of Toronto. An ideal place to build a battery factory…good fishing area.

  29. Kit Gerhart Says:

    28 But it’s cold up there in the winter.

  30. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Even though the Ferrari PHEV looks pretty fantastic (to me), there does seem to be a lot of ‘retro’ in its styling.

  31. wmb Says:

    Sean/John
    I know this is off topic and on a Sunday no less, but I wonder if your expertise and friendships in the industry might be able to come up with an answer. What is up with Cadillac and the Lyriq? I have seen a lot of advertising for the vehicle, with TV spots showing a valet driving one to it’s owner from a parking garage. Usually automakers wait until a vehicle is either already on sell, or its sell from dealships is imminent. Yet, the Lyriq is a 2023 vehicle, so it’s on sell date is not until the fall of ’22!?! I have never seen so much advertising of a vehicle, especially when what they’re showing is a concept that could change considerable before it hits the market. Outside of the Escalade, most of Cadillac’s advertising has been sporty for their other vehicles. So why push this vehicle so much, only for potential customers into come in and only find out they have to wait another 18 months before the more expensive 1st Editions go on sale? I have never seen this much of a big advertising push on a concept, when the actual vehicle is nearly a year and a half away! The GMC Hummer twins will be on the market before the Lyriq, so why push it now?

  32. ChuckGrenci Says:

    @32, The Lyriq will start at under $60,000, and while a ‘launch’ version hasn’t been announced, we may see one (probably/definitely at a higher price). Also, even though this will be a ’23 model, availability has been announced for the first half of ’22; less than a year. I also wondered about some of the questions you ask in your post but I think maybe Cadillac is testing the ‘waters’ to check for interest and also just trying to get the word out (about Cadillac’s intentions).

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    31,32 Also, I suspect they are trying to create interest in Lyric, thus causing some people to wait and see it before buying a Tesla, Ford, VW, etc.

  34. Sean Wagner Says:

    Straight from the horse’s mouth, quote: Initial availability begins in the first half of 2022—sign up for updates to be one of the first to reserve yours in September 2021.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    34 I signed up for updates. I doubt I’ll buy one early on, but the updates should be interesting.

  36. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The modified Tesla Model S Plaid driven by Randy Pobst won the “exhibition” class at the weather shortened Pike’s Peak hill climb, about 17 seconds quicker than the 2nd-in-class NSX, and about a minute behind the overall winner.

  37. Sean Wagner Says:

    36 I like the weird mix of cars. And hope more international participants will be coming next year. Race results aren’t comparable, but it seems only Model 3 Teslas did the run in ’20 and ’19.

    I wonder when the Lyriq will be available in Europe.

  38. Lambo2015 Says:

    31 It seems with all these EVs they try and gage interest by offering refundable deposits well ahead of production. I believe that’s for a couple reasons; 1)The pre-order offers them an idea of overall interest. 2)They need to determine the level of production volume which will drive the level of automation they invest in. The sad part is I think in most cases they can get a large pre-order that falls off dramatically the following year.
    That’s why I don’t believe the EV interest is as large as some people would like to say it is.

    Historically, vehicles that have become huge hits didn’t always have their best sales in the first year. Word of mouth gets out and the manufacturer makes improvements and they become a huge hit. All these EVs seem to have their best sales the first full year of production. (excluding the Model 3 only because of expanding market and production capability)
    I’m just not seeing the continued growth and interest in EVs. They launch have a great first year and then sales stay steady or start to decline. The increase in EV sales seems to mostly be driven by more options as more vehicles hit the market. I’d really like to see a breakdown of all EVs and their sales curve.

  39. wmb Says:

    Thinks everyone for your insights and I’m glad it wasn’t just me that was scratching his head about the matter. I could seem OEM’s reaching out to the media/auto journalist community, to give them the head’s up about new product, so that they can inform their reader/viewer-ship(?). But, to directly advertise a concept to the public at large and only that concept (I have seen automakers throw a concept in advertising, but usually it’s when they’re promoting vehicles that are already on sell), was a new one for me!

  40. Warwick Dundas Says:

    26 The Thar would be road registerable in Australia. It would compete with similar vehicles such as the Suzuki Jimny.

    These vehicles are popular with farmers and people wjho like to visit national parks where roads are often little more than semi-made bush tracks.

  41. stephen Says:

    I presume cadillac has little to excite this year and with all the interest outside trucks in EVs, they need to get (conservative at best) caddy and younger buyers to hold off on other EV buys. Witness Harley and the quiet reaction to their EV bike. Cadillac is too small for it to be a dud. Caddy also needs younger buyers and they’re not interested in typical ICE cadillacs (bar the odd clued in performance fan).
    14 – if Ferraris were banned from large cities they would go bust. Where do you think these buyers live (rural US/China??). Now they have one car to offer and it looks/smells/drives from the lights like a Ferrari. Track fans can still buy an ICE. Porsche showed this with the 918 and the next 911 is a PHEV at least. There is no hiding place