AD #3120 – Toyota Unveils All-New Aqua; Tesla Launches FSD Subscription Service; BMW Reveals Wild Electric Scooter

July 19th, 2021 at 11:49am

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Runtime: 10:29

0:08 Toyota Won’t Run Olympic Ads in Japan
0:46 Rivian Delays Start of Production
1:14 Tight Inventory Helps Dealers Post Big Profits
2:32 Automakers Moving Away from Rare Earth Metals Used in EVs
3:21 Largest Rare Earth Mine Located in U.S.
4:44 Xpeng Slashes P5 Pricing in China
5:20 Tesla Launches Full-Self Driving Subscription Service
7:08 Toyota Unveils All-New Aqua Hybrid
8:10 BMW Reveals Wild New Electric Scooter

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16 Comments to “AD #3120 – Toyota Unveils All-New Aqua; Tesla Launches FSD Subscription Service; BMW Reveals Wild Electric Scooter”

  1. rick Says:

    none of the good toyota cars come to america ie: the aqua, yaris gr

  2. Alex Borenstein Says:

    1. yes, they are so exciting


    So they want a person to pay $200 per month for a “FULL SELF DRIVING” car that you must maintain total control of at all times(i.e. drive at all times). Makes total sense.

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    Sorry but we Americans are so stupid sometimes. We train the Chinese on how to build cars so they can develop their own cars and undercut us. We mine rare earth metals and sign contracts to sell to China and wonder why we cant get a handle on EV prices. We set ourselves up for failure at every turn and will rely on Chinese imports to even make the products we manufacture here. Crazy.

    No word on the BMW EV bike pricing? No doubt it will be cheaper than the $30k HD livewire. I have a friend that is a manager at a HD shop nearby. After spending lots of money to install charging stations and training mechanics HD is refunding them all that money as they split off Livewire separating the EV bikes from traditional HD bikes. Sounds like it will go about the same as Buell did.

  5. ChuckGrenci Says:

    And now for some better news; the C8 ZO6 will have its official reveal this fall as a 2023 model. It sounds awesome. Perhaps Autoline will have a feature on tomorrow’s show.

  6. Roger T Says:

    Tesla FSD subscription is a good start, this is the way to go here. The key question is whether this move will increase or reduce revenues for Tesla. Paying $200/mo takes 50 months to cover $10k expense, I suspect people won’t go for $10k and will instead occasionally pay $200 when they have a long road trip. That’s what I would do.

  7. Phred Says:

    The BMW scoote has the continuing faults of other electric solutions – lack of convenience in real world use and recharging times tha are too long for a realrider.

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    6 It doesn’t sound like going the $200 a month rental route, goes toward the purchase price. So you could spend 50 months paying the $200 and still not own the FSD service.
    I personally wouldn’t buy a vehicle that is going to require that large of service fee to use equipment already on the car. Especially when its not really self driving.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 That’s the free market at work with the “rare earth” materials, with the mining in the US and processing in China.

    7 The electric scooter, even more than electric cars, will be used for local trips only, being charged at home. I ride mainly short trips, but the range of that scooter would be inadequate, even for me. My big scooter, a Honda SilverWing has a safe range of ~150 miles, and it can be refueled in about 2 minutes. The BMW electric’s range of 62-80 miles probably means 62 at highway speed, and then 30 minutes or so to recharge, if you can find a place to recharge it.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Does anyone know the take rate for any of the semi-autonomous “autopilot” versions on Teslas? My friend who bought a Model S about a year ago didn’t even consider it.

  11. wmb Says:

    So…if you finance a Tesla, the vehicle, you still have to finance the FSD separately, too?!? Plus finance insurance? Really? Maybe it’s all together in one payment, but it still seems like it will be a pretty big monthly bill.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 Do people finance Teslas? I figured the buyers generally paid cash.

  13. Sean Wagner Says:

    10 Kit – “autopilot” take rate – see

    This is not free, and I can only add that TT is a known quantity, though not by me.

  14. Lambo2015 Says:

    9 That’s not really free market at work. Its free market trying to compete with a government subsidized/backed market. Any business in China could sell products at a loss (which that burden is absorbed by the whole country) just to run competition out of business.
    If the Chinese government subsidizes batteries to the point of almost free to Chinese manufacturers they can sell EVs that no one can compete with. Oh and since we cannot process the raw materials we mine here in the states into products for our own battery production we are at their mercy to whatever they want to charge.
    We would be placed in a position where the only way to balance it out would be to add a huge tariff on Chinese EVs and all the American people would see is another tax preventing us from being able to buy $15k EVs. Or we let them flood in and bankrupt GM. Ford, FCA and Tesla.


    10) I wouldn’t “rent” AP or FSD either. It is a total waste of money. These subscriptions are not transferrable to the next owner when the car is sold so they don’t even add value to your car. They simply drain money from your bank account. I guess if you feel that you have no driving skill, then it would be worth it to have something like AP or FSD. To the rest of us that learned how to put down the phone and drive, AP/FSD is worthless.

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    15 Amen!