AD #3123 – Stellantis Close on Solid State Batteries; Volvo Taking Full Control in China; Mercedes’ Big Electric Plans

July 22nd, 2021 at 11:44am

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Runtime: 10:08

0:07 Stellantis to Have Solid State Batteries in 2026
1:08 Tesla Going to Accept Bitcoin Again
1:41 Volvo Taking Full Control of China Operations
3:36 Chip Shortage Hits GM’s Full-Size Pickups
4:09 Toyota Offering Digital Owner’s Manual
5:00 Used Batteries Piling Up in China
7:32 Mercedes Has Big Plans to Go Electric
8:43 Ford Improving Its Cabin Air Filters

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16 Comments to “AD #3123 – Stellantis Close on Solid State Batteries; Volvo Taking Full Control in China; Mercedes’ Big Electric Plans”

  1. Buzzerd Says:

    Stellantis is or will be building a bunch of plants in the next 4 years and after will see if they will be able to convert them to produce solid state batteries???K, calling bullshit.

  2. Wim van Acker Says:

    @2 I thought that was odd, too

  3. Bob Wilson Says:

    Congratulations to Volvo following the ownership path of Tesla.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    1,2 The plants, as in the buildings might be converted, but with completely different equipment inside.

  5. Denis Says:

    Research Institute says one 20-gram cell phone battery can pollute one square kilometer for 50 years…Going green…LOL

  6. XA351GT Says:

    So a cellphone battery can pollute a square kilometer for 50 years and this is considered the new green solution and the reason were dumping ICE which are cleaner than they’ve ever been. Is it me or is it like trading $hit for Manure?

  7. cwolf Says:

    Betcha those microfilters won’t do much good in an EV when its battery catches fire!

  8. Kurt P. Says:

    Re your story about the Toyota digital owners manual. I bought a 2021 F150 and there is no printed manual with the vehicle. Its loaded into the Sync 4 system so you have it in your car all the time, or you can get a PDF version from You can also purchase one from Helm (which I did) for $35 plus something like $15 for shipping (from Northville to Ann Arbor). I retired from Ford 3 years ago so I don’t know how many vehicle lines have digital owners manuals, but I would assume they’ll eventually do it across the board.


    6) The law of unintended consequences is always at work.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

  11. Lambo2015 Says:

    The math seems off, but if I did this correctly and the average EV battery is about 600kg or 600,000grams divided by 20 (cell phone)grams means a single EV could pollute 30,000 square kilometers.

    To put in perspective for the US readers. A single EV battery can pollute 7,413,000 acres. Or 11,583 square miles. BTW that’s about the size of Nevada. Yeah the whole state!
    Also means you only need about 270 EV batteries to pollute the entire continental US.

  12. Wim van Acker Says:

    @5,6, 11It is important to understand what is meant, and what the factual basis is.

    “20-gram cell phone battery can pollute one square kilometer for 50 years.” How so: when it is pulverized and dispersed over land? Before extrapolating that to a 600 kg battery, I suggest we first understand the 20 gram case.

  13. Sean Wagner Says:

    12 Precisely.

    This week’s Autoline After Hours is a great place to start on the subject. I did notive Gary’s question about a typical battery’s content wasn’t precisely answered, though.

    It seems a good ballpark figure for Nickel content is 40kg (the main battery cell [!] ingredient by mass). Tesla just signed a big deal with BHP Australia to that respect. Source

    As for the quote above, it seems to originate with one Professor Wu Feng of the Beijing Institute of Technology. The article goes on to state that “the entire planet will be polluted and the ecosystem will be severely damaged.”

    Translated Source –

    Smartphone production must stop immediately.

    On the other hand, here in the heart of Europe, we pay a recycling fee that’s included in electronics purchases, and the correct disposal of just about everything is regulated.

    Including the incineration of household waste, and special high temperature ovens for hazardous chemicals, of which there are many. No dumping on landfills.

    I already have a bad conscience because I use minimal amounts of Diesel (filtered and reused as often as possible) to clean my speed skating bearings from time to time.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    5,11,12 What materials in LiPo batteries are especially toxic? They don’t contain arsenic do they, or even lead, except in trace amounts.

  15. Sean Wagner Says:

    Is this along the line of how many drops of gasoline does it take to pollute a gallon of water?

    The new Autoline After Hours directly relates to battery recycling. Good watching. It would have been nice to have Gary’s question about a battery’s materials answered.

    For instance, if you ignore a pack’s structure and maybe the cells’ casings, Nickel is the top material by mass, at usually around 40kg (source: mining firm BHP via the FT).

    It’s worth noting in this context that a Tesla Model 3 weighs about 150kg (330lb) more than an equivalent BMW 3-series.

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    12 Yeah! that was the same thought I had as to what material and level of pollution where they talking about? Because the story made it sound like the way in which the batteries are recycled can lead to the pollution. So where they just saying that the equipment needed to recycle is dirty and a high polluter? Or the battery itself? Which seems hard to believe.