AD #3127 – New BMW 2 Series Coupe; Porsche Reveals Unlikely Concept; New DBX Helps Aston’s Sales Soar

July 28th, 2021 at 11:49am

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Runtime: 10:53

0:08 Biden Plans to Restore Obama’s Fuel Economy Rules
1:10 New DBX Helps Aston Martin’s Sales Soar
1:54 Rivian To Invest $5 Billion In New Plant
3:23 Nissan Frontier Updates
5:04 New BMW 2 Series Coupe to Debut in Munich
6:37 Porsche Reveals Unlikely Concept Vehicle
8:50 Ford Opens New Battery R&D Center
9:39 Lancia Stratos Zero Concept

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27 Comments to “AD #3127 – New BMW 2 Series Coupe; Porsche Reveals Unlikely Concept; New DBX Helps Aston’s Sales Soar”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Even the 2 series automatic only? So much for “ultimate driving machine,” even in the car closest to heir apparent to the old 2000s.

  2. Kevin A Says:

    Why not just ban the importation of all cars that consume more than the required average fuel economy? If nothing else, that might keep a few domestic plants open a few years longer.

  3. Jim Haines Says:

    Biden doesn’t even know what year it is but the obamy people back in power are picking winners using tax payer money

  4. GM Veteran Says:

    I still say Rivian could save a TON of money by just making an attractive offer to Lordstown. Its a huge plant that can easily accommodate vehicle production and battery assembly. The way things look for Lordstown, they may jump at the opportunity to sell their biggest asset, pay some legal bills and close up shop. As many have said, not all of the EV startups are going to make it. The ones with minimal financing are the most vulnerable.

  5. Rey Says:

    Did I hear right? Nissan midsized pickup 20 mpg? That is lower than most full-sized pickups!
    BMW squeezing the most out of a dying ICE powertrain, gas and Diesel.

  6. Rey Says:

    #3 Jim, please tell us how US auto industry is going to compete or survive vs the Europeans and Chinese in the coming years if they dont switch to BEVs and more fuel efficient vehicles, GM not even in Europe now, almost out in most of Asia,especially in manufacturing, all while the Chinese expand, Nio and Xpeng and soon BYD plus others will be selling in Europe .

  7. Dale Leonard Says:

    To me,the new Nissan frontier,looks like a Silverado from the front and a F-150 from the rear. Anyone else think this way??

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    I thought Hot Wheels made a Lancia Stratos concept but after searching online looks like they did make the Stratos but not the concept. Not nearly as wedged shaped. Maybe it was the Vector but that design had to certainly influence the likes of the 1980s Lotus Elise.

    So bring back EPA requirements that will make ICEs even more expensive, which can also help place EVs on a more level playing field cost wise. Either way the consumer pays more.

  9. Lambo2015 Says:

    4 Maybe Rivian should consider partnering with Lordstown. Not only get the plant for a good deal but a fully developed vehicle that Rivan could add to its offerings. Especially since the Rivian truck is between a mid-size and full size.

    7 Yea I see it too.

  10. Merv Peters Says:

    when I needed a pickup in my life,I always bought american. they always seemed to suit me best.

  11. WineGeek Says:

    How about a new 2 Series convertible…!

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    5 The Frontier does 1 mpg better than the V8 Chevy and Dodge, but 2 mpg worse than the Ford with 2.7 turbo. Yeah, 20 is not too good for a “mid size” pickup.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 I had a pickup once, a regular cab Chevy S10. Unfortunately, no one sells anything like that any more. I suppose it’s because they would take too many sales from the high profit monster trucks.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 According the Car and Driver, there will be no new generation 2-series convertible, apparently ever.

  15. Lambo2015 Says:

    12 When you actually do a fair comparison and put the Nissan up against the other midsize trucks the Ranger (2.3 Turbo)and Colorado (3.6L V6) then you see the Nissan gets 1 mpg less than GM and 3 mpg less than Ford.

    So yeah its worse in class for MPG.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 Even the semi-ancient Taco does 1 mpg better, overall than the Nissan.

  17. Sean Wagner Says:

    Very nice seeing the Lancia Stratos Zero concept. I think it was featured in a special exhibition down in the basement of the Geneva show some years ago, but I’d forgotten how diminutive it is.

    One of those truly standout designs, never mind things like human bodies’ shape!

    Does someone recall a (late 60s?) Corvette concept where the entire rear and roof were hinged at the back of the car and swiveled up, with the seats moving too?

  18. Lambo2015 Says:

    17 Yeah I believe I know which one your talking about I believe I saw that concept at the Peterson Museum in L.A. but I visited the corvette museum in BG Kentucky that same year. So it may also have been there.
    At Peterson they had a lot of the movie cars obviously being in L.A. like the Batmobile from the 60s and 90s, and Speed racer among others. Great place to visit and iconic building.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17,18 Is this the Corvette concept?


    13) I liked the size of the S10 and the equivalent ranger of the time. Robbing sales from full size is not why the S10 went away back then though. That was purely consumer choice driven. Back then people made a decision between a new S10 or a cheaper used off lease Silverado with more features that would retain more resale value in the long term. The Silverado of that time was also substantially more reliable than the S10 with its tin can suspension bits, underpowered engines, and cheap and chinzy plastic interior. It was a very easy decision for the consumer. Most people chose to go for the used Silverado leaving new S10s to languish on lots.

    I remember the final days of S10. GM was having fire sales to clear out inventory. They were practically paying people to take them. Obviously that is not sustainable.

    Today that equation is slightly different. Full size trucks are expensive in both new and used forms. That makes Colorados/Rangers/Tacomas look more attractive in both new and used forms. Unfortunately all of those are more mid-size and pretty expensive for what they are. Their only party trick is that they are slightly cheaper than a full size. They are not necessary better value than a full size. So sales are mixed.

    I am excited about the upcoming Maverick though. If it didn’t have a double cab, it would basically be an old school Ranger successor with a nice cheap price tag to match the theme of being an old school ranger. Offering an AWD variant will bring it success that the old Dodge Rampage could never achieve. It should sell pretty well if they don’t mess up the launch and give it a reputation for being unreliable. I do wonder if it will take sales away from the Ranger though. Maybe that is why Ford gave the maverick a small bed size. If you need a larger bed you move into the ranger. Maybe they are trying to protect ranger sales that way?

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    20 I still see a number of S-10s on the road, even in the Indiana land of road salt, and the newest ones are 17 years old. Underpowered? Mine had a 4.3, and had plenty of power. Even the later 4 cylinder S-10s with the 2.2 weren’t bad.

    I never see a first generation S-10. They have all rusted away, and most of them had less-than-stellar engines, the 2.5 “iron duke” and carbureted 2.8 V6.

    If they made a regular cab version, the Maverick would be very appealing to me, if I wanted a pickup truck. Using the hybrid powertrain is great, as it will nearly double the city mpg, compared to the competition.


    21) It was amazing to me that they put the old iron duke in almost everything back then. One day I ran across a Firebird with an iron duke for sale. I knew GM offered it but was shocked to actually see it. Somebody actually bought one! The person selling it was also really proud that his Firebird had an iron duke. This seller priced it like it was a rare Ferrari and kept saying “where are you going to find another Firebird with an iron duke”. 0-60 was 20 seconds. It was so horrifically slow. I didn’t buy it of course but it would have made for a conversation starter at a cars and coffee event.

  23. Lambo2015 Says:

    20-21 I just wonder how big of a market is out there? Going small and only offering a tiny bed I think is a mistake. What they really need to do is offer a regular cab or slightly extended with a large bed. Seems the S-10s and Rangers were popular with the handyman of trades and delivery services. The local Napa used them for years. Capable of hauling auto parts up to a full engine if needed. Carpenders, landscapers and so many trades that haul dirty sloppy items that you don’t really want to put inside a vehicle. Bed still big enough to get some drywall or plywood but they don’t need to haul 2000 lbs or tow anything but maybe a log splitter or portable cement mixer. They don’t need but maybe 2000 lbs of towing. Most don’t need AWD.
    If they could really get back to the basics and forget about driving assist features and all the sensors and just offer a small work truck that was affordable with decent power it would sell, IMO.. The problem is they always come out with the original design that is underwhelming. They wait a year and offer a better more powerful engine after they already let everyone down and people are no longer excited about it.. Release it with a proper powertrain even if you offer a lesser HP option come out of the gate with a great motor and transmission. Forget about shooting for high margins and go for economy of scale again. Sell a ton of them and make sure they are bullet proof.. A good reliable cheap small truck.. Cheap and no frills should not mean junk. Think of original WW2 Jeep. Basic utilitarian reliable hard working vehicle but modern.
    With that combination a manufacturer could sell 200k a year maybe twice that if its sold world wide.


    23) No frills is a moving target. No frills these days is basically 1980s loaded. Automatic, Air, cruise, tilt, pwr windows/locks/mirrors. I was in a uhaul truck with manual everything. When I saw the crank handles on the doors; I wondered how many new drivers would even know what to do.

    I was watching some old price is right compilations of new car give aways the other day. They usually run through the list of optional “features” cars came with that make them special. You quickly realize how even our base spec cars today are better equipped than high spec cars of yesteryear.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 I knew someone who bought an iron duke Camaro, but I don’t know why, unless he just wanted something “different.” My manual transmission iron duke Celebrity wagon was quicker, because it was lighter.

  26. Sean Wagner Says:

    Lambo & Kit – Found it. An amazing automobile. Meet the Chevrolet Corvair Astro I from 1967:

  27. Sean Wagner Says:

    It even has a yoke!