AD #3130 – COPO Camaro Features New Big Block V8; Ferrari Posts Strong Q2 Earnings; Daimler Changes Name

August 2nd, 2021 at 11:52am

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Runtime: 9:03

0:08 Renault Secures Lithium Supply
0:42 Ferrari Posts Strong Q2 Earnings
1:19 Daimler Changes Name to Mercedes-Benz Group AG
2:41 Rivian In Talks to Open Plant in the UK
3:13 Toyota To Make Spare Parts for Classic Land Cruiser
3:48 COPO Camaro Features New Big Block V8
5:44 Toyota Racing Corolla Sport with Hydrogen Engine
6:31 Bosch Sees Opportunity to Use Hydrogen as Fuel in ICEs
7:52 1909 Curtiss Three Cylinder Replica

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35 Comments to “AD #3130 – COPO Camaro Features New Big Block V8; Ferrari Posts Strong Q2 Earnings; Daimler Changes Name”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’d think there would be a demand for body parts for old Land Cruisers. I knew two people who had them when they weren’t all that old, and they didn’t hold up to the Indiana road salt too well.

  2. Kevin A Says:

    Isn’t the Daimler Truck spin off going to use the Daimler name?

  3. Lambo2015 Says:

    Even though the Daimler name has been around since the 1920s its seems it was always Mercedes Benz here in the states. Didn’t even hear the Daimler name until the 90s when Chrysler was bought. I wonder is that an American thing and Daimler was always well known in Europe or did they push the Daimler name more recently worldwide? As for the trucks names, for that reason the MB name seems to be better than DB.

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    A true daredevil would ride that Curtiss at 90 mph. That’s basically a bicycle with an engine. Had to be a scary ride. Cool segment though Sean, Thanks!

    Wow if Toyota developed a Hydrogen Engine it could be a game changer for EVs. I have my doubts but its good they are keeping an open mind for eco solutions.

  5. Kevin A Says:

    I was told that at the start of it’s history, Daimler would sell other companies the specs of it’s cars and the right to make them and use the Daimler name in specific countries. Supposedly, that is how the Daimler Co of England started, before it was bought by Jaguar. I was also told that Daimler has since repurchased all of those rights all over the world, including England. Any way to verify that?

  6. Rey Says:

    Toyota and Mercedes please show us how to make Hydrogen cheaply, without steam reforming out from Nat Gas,and please take that Hydrogen fueled car on a cross country drive across North America ,it might give one insight on how to go forward..
    Toyota might be the best auto manufacturer out there, but they sure got that head of theirs wrong way when it comes to the future and BEVs vs FCVs, “Hydrogen is the fuel of the future”, and will be for another 100 years Mr.Akio Toyoda just does not want to admit it.

  7. Bob Wilson Says:

    I remember the last big hydrogen advocate, Trevor Milton, who promised to deliver hydrogen products that violated the laws of physics, chemistry, and thermal dynamics. So how has over promising worked for him? How has the expensive California hydrogen experiment worked?


    6) I remember people issuing that challenge for BEVs not that long ago, and look how that has turned out.

  9. Lambo2015 Says:

    6 The same thing can still be said of an EV. Take it cross-country in NA and see if an EV is the answer. GM launched the EV1 in 1996. Here we are 25 years later with electric cars still trying to gain traction. Only thing constant is change and if a better way to make Hydrogen is developed before a better battery, everything could change. I think Toyota is smart to keep their options open. That’s what R&D is for.

  10. GM Veteran Says:

    Since the company is splitting into two separate companies, it seems like a good idea to differentiate the names. The truck company will use the Daimler name, which is more familiar in Europe, while the car company uses Mercedes-Benz, which is firmly linked to their automobiles all over the world. Seems like a good solution to me. In 12 years when they re-combine, Daimler-Benz may also be reconstituted!

  11. Rey Says:

    # 9, if you have google and youtube you can see Tesla drivers doing cross country drives, on Tesla SC , Now see who will do the Hydrogen infrastructure its a chicken and
    D egg thing , on top of being very expensive to make, but hey you’re welcome to try and I will watch on YouTube should you vlogg, maybe GM or Toyota will fund that Hydrogen infras like Tesla does their SC, who knows Toyota has $bucks.

  12. Rey Says:

    #8 I’m breathlessly waiting for the first Foolcell to do their trip across the USA on their infrastructure.LOL

  13. Albemarle Says:

    Good thing that COPO Camaro is for the dragstrip. A regular Camaro is already visibility challenged.

  14. Rey Says:

    # 9 , Actions speak louder than words, to date nobody ( auto manu.) in the FCV world will commit to Hydrogen infras,fund it on their own please post it here if they do,and Elon / Tesla has just said they will open their SC to others, that is commitment to BEVs and the infrastructure, like i said it’s a chicken and egg thing.

  15. George Ricci Says:

    ICE running on hydrogen. Sean you said auto companies are interested because there would be zero CO2 emissions from the tail pipe. Since 95% of all hydrogen is made by burning fossil fuels, what about all those CO2 emissions? Even if you used green hydrogen you would still have NOx emissions coming out the tail pipe. Its just another wasted effort that is NOT zero emissions.

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    11 Yes if I wanted to waste my time watching something an ICE has been doing for 100 years I could watch an EV cross country. Didn’t say it wasn’t possible, but it has only been possible in what? The last 5 years? And takes a much longer time than a ICE. Especially if you don’t plan to use the specific Tesla route. I don’t typically plan my trips to go from gas station to gas station. I plan from point of interest to point of interest.
    Electric is promising and making improvements daily but just as skeptical as you are about HG, it wasn’t that much different for EVs just 30 years ago. Only point was things could change just as easily and that’s what R&D is for. So yea HG is way behind Electric and maybe years from even being applicable and maybe never will. But if they poo poo’d EVs it like you have HG Tesla would have never been created.

  17. XA351GT Says:

    COPO Camaro last gasp of a dying Dinosaur. Word is the Camaro is done after 24 . makes me wonder what NASCAR will do now that they just sunk all kinds of time and money into Next Gen Camaro and also V8 Supercars in Australia which are set to adopt the Camaro as the heir to the Holden Commodore. Are we getting ready to see GM pull out of motorsports again like they did in the 50s and 60s and most of the 70s?

  18. Bob Wilson Says:

    Driving my Tesla Model 3 is also an IQ test. Stop at a fast food place for biology and a sack meal; eat at Supercharger for about 20-25 minutes, and; drive 2-2.5 hours to the next one. It costs $3.50 per 100 miles or less, $3.00 if we stay at a motel with free breakfasts and charging.

    EVs are not for everyone but I’m not tempted by PHEV or ICE. You can’t talk me into a more expensive vehicle to drive and maintain (ie no oil changes, brake, other wear parts for two orders of magnitude fewer moving parts.)

  19. Ed Says:

    Daimler name change probably has more to do with future litigation. As the wave of woke takes down statues, and anyone from the past who has been targeted. It may be like IG Farben was. BASF, Bayer, Hoechst, Agfa, Chemische Fabrik Griesheim-Elektron, and Chemische Fabrik vorm; all came from this company during ww2; The only way to try and protect a company from the coming additional reparations to any and all groups who want a piece may be to change the company and close the old one again.

  20. cwolf Says:

    Here is a rather good comparison easy to understand:

  21. Stephen Kutney Says:

    The Glenn Curtiss museum is a great place to visit.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    5 I remember seeing what looked like Jaguars badged Daimler when I was in Scotland in 1970-1971.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 Most Daimler trucks are called Freightliner in the US.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The thing that could eventually make hydrogen useful, would be to co-locate solar or wind farms, electrolysis plants, and fueling stations. That won’t happen any time soon.

    As far are running ICEs on hydrogen, you can do that, but it is much less efficient than fuel cell EVs, and as mentioned, there are NOx emissions.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 You can do cross country trips with Tesla SCs, but it adds ~15% to the drive time. Some people don’t care that, but many, or most do care.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17 Weren’t “Tauruses” used in NASCAR for years after they were dropped, before Ford 500 was renamed Taurus?

  27. Bob Wilson Says:

    #25 – My 2019 Tesla, block-to-block planning speed is ~53-55 mph and easily gives 750 miles in 14 hours. This reaches my hometown or my Mom’s home in one easy day of AutoPilot driving.

  28. XA351GT Says:

    26 , No, but Chevy ran the SS a full year before a street version of the car was available for sale. Ford used the Thunderbird until it was retired at the end of the 1997 season. They then ran the Taurus until the Fusion replaced it , Then that was finally replaced by the Mustang.

  29. Kit Gerhart Says:

    28 I guess I was thinking about another car name that ran in Nascar for a few years after it no longer existed.

  30. Curtis Easter Says:

    Part of the problem in the U.S. (GM) auto companies is their eagerness to discontinue what is not working rather than improve it. The Camaro was a profitable vehicle for GM, yet rather than build a new Camaro that attracts new customers they let it wither on the vine. Then management wonders why they are losing market share.

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    30 In truck infatuated America, a new Camaro wouldn’t sell in large numbers, no matter how good it was. The current Camaro is a great driving car. Yeah, the visibility isn’t good, and the styling a little “juvenile,” but fixing both of those things wouldn’t generate enough sales to justify spending billions on a new Camaro.

  32. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I just saw an article on the upcoming Cadillac Lyriq which looked quite promising for their upcoming model. Starting at around 60 thousand, and offering available Supercruise, it appears to be on track to compete with some of the premium BEV’s currently in production. It will be introduced as a ’23 model, and per the article, will likely early release in the first quarter of ’22, which is earlier than originally expected. It is already a little crowded in this segment so I’ll be interested in how Cadillac will do into the foray of luxury electrics. Not that I’m a buyer but I’m certainly going to give the model a closer look when details become available.

  33. Lambo2015 Says:

    31 IMO the problem facing the Camaro, Mustang and even the Challenger is the cars become popular in the 60′s and 70′s. They kept evolving until they decided to go retro and bring back aspects of the original designs. So now they are stuck with a car that needs to remain true to its heritage. Its kind of the same problem Jeep has with the Wrangler. Change the design too much and you lose your core enthusiasts/repeat buyers. Don’t change it enough and it withers on the vine as no longer exciting. Ford did a pretty good job of designing a new model after the 5th generation retro design. But there is only so much you can do to modify a 60 year old design to retain its roots and still look modern. Its like movie sequels. Rarely ever as good as the original and just how many versions can you make?

    I think Ford sees the writing on the wall and which is why their EV was called the Mach-E. I believe its in preparation of an EV Mustang. If customers accept that the transition to a full electric Mustang will go smoother.

    It will be sad to see the Camaro go but at this point it will need to be a complete redesign and probably wont happen.


    33) There have been 6 generations of the Mustang. There are 8 sequels to the Fast and Furious movie. So I think Mustang has at least 2 more generations in them before they jump the shark.

    The switch to EV for the mustang is not starting with the Mach-E though. It is really starting with the EV cobra that is getting heavy press right now in the mustang community. That car will make the transition happen on Mustang.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Porsche has been able to keep the same shape for the 911 for almost 60 years, even as the car has become very different, and much larger. It doesn’t seem to work that way for anyone else. The Camaro will go away, as it did once before in about 2003, and may return some day. As long as most of the US market is pickup trucks and lifted wagons, though, I don’t expect to see a 7th generation Camaro.