AD #3142 – Auto Workers Want Higher Pay in Developing Countries; Waymo Losing Its Lead in AVs; Baidu Reveals Funky Robocar

August 18th, 2021 at 11:55am

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Runtime: 11:48

0:07 GM Mexico Workers Could Vote for New Union
1:13 India Asks Nissan to Pay Workers More
3:13 FCA Fined for Role in UAW Scandal
4:04 U.S. Senators Urge FTC to Probe Autopilot
4:31 Waymo Struggling to Bring Out AV Tech
5:33 Baidu Unveils Funky Robocar
7:08 Lincoln Refreshes the Navigator
8:04 Performance S Versions of Audi e-tron Coming to the U.S.
9:46 Nissan Reveals New U.S.-Spec Z car

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15 Comments to “AD #3142 – Auto Workers Want Higher Pay in Developing Countries; Waymo Losing Its Lead in AVs; Baidu Reveals Funky Robocar”

  1. George Ricci Says:

    In San Francisco you see large numbers of WAYMO cars driving around. Must more than you see Cruise AV’s.

  2. Kevin A Says:

    Sean, the appropriate pay rate for workers in other countries has nothing to do with US pay rates. GM and others should pay slightly above the local rates in order to get the best workers without disrupting the existing local pay rates. You might think higher rates ‘help’ the local workers, but it is just as likely to trigger high inflation and local labor unrest. Americans need to get over the idea that they know better than everyone else in the world. That is clearly not the case. (see Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan)

  3. Lambo2015 Says:

    Paying a low wage in a developing country isn’t as simple as comparing it to wages in the US. In many small towns in Mexico when a factory moves in and pays a competitive wage workers are happy to have a good job that pays more than most (in that area).
    The problem is if they came in a paid double what other jobs are paying then its like raising the minimum wage in the area. Everyone has to start paying more to compete with the factory pay and keep workers. As more factories move in they pay a little higher and as that slowly creeps up eventually no one can afford to live there unless they work at the factory.

    When you let the bottom line be the deciding factor in where you manufacture goods its a goose chase. It was Mexico then India then China then Russia and Ukrane. The workers are exploited from a US standpoint but most times are very happy with the pay for their area. Eventually the pay increases to where the country is no longer an advantage and manufacturers move on to the next underdeveloped country.

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    2 Well said Kevin! On the same page with ya there.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2,3 Exactly

  6. DT Says:

    Corporations, global elites and developed western countries like to keep the developing countries in the $1 -$5 a day wage. Isn’t globalization wonderful for the 1%.

  7. ChuckGrenci Says:

    2,3; hit it on the head: It is not an easy comparison. Cost of living being just one delineator. Box of cereal here is crowding 5 dollars; 5 dollars just isn’t what it used to be (let alone a living/day wage of old). Some equalization of the poorer countries is probably warranted, as well as a reduction on our side; but that just doesn’t happen, and won’t.

  8. John Heinricy Says:

    What is stunning and maddening to me is that Autolines insight relative to what automakers are paying in other countries is so flawed and self righteous sounding. Put a little effort into your autoline insight and maybe you will sound credible.

  9. XA351GT Says:

    Ah the duel edge sword of higher wages. You get a bigger paycheck , providing you aren’t the ones being cut loose when jobs are offloaded to cheaper locations . Puts one in the position of do I want more money at the risk of winding up with no job at all. This is being shown now with the push up $15 min. wage. The wages go up for those that aren’t replaced by machines . Ask a fast food worker that worked a register to be replaced with order kiosk that actually gives exactly what you asked for, doesn’t call off , doesn’t dip into the till. Doesn’t have a attitude , doesn’t argue with the customer or managers . Be careful what you ask for you just might get it.

  10. Merv Peters Says:

    2 ditto

  11. cwolf Says:

    When the unions lost their clout beginning somewhere in the 80′s, I think, union membership and wages declined. It wasn’t only a couple years laster when the wage gap between employee and higher-ups grew something like 300-400% eh?
    But thats OK, right?

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 I agree completely that the disparity of pay between workers and higher ups is obscene. The thing with pay in developing countries, location of facrories etc. is complex, though. If Ford and GM had all of their manufactuing in the U.S., and used only U.S. made parts, they would need to raise the prices of their vehicles by about 50% and would soon be out of business, and even more auto related jobs would be in low wage countries.
    Then, there’d still be the issue of “how low.”

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 I usually go to a register with a person at Kroger, Target, etc. if the line is short, to do my part to preserve some jobs. I use curbside pickup for Walmart, because going in Walmart is usually unpleasant. Also, I help create jobs for people who go around the store picking the items I want.

  14. Lambo2015 Says:

    12 False info. The typical cost of a vehicle to manufacture in the US is only 10 to 15% labor. 20-30% material and 50-60% is overhead. Far cry from a 50% increase. Even if you doubled the US wage for labor worse case would be a 15% increase.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 What if all of the parts and raw materials were from the U.S.? That’s what I meant.