AD 3147 – Europe Gets New, Sportier Focus ST; Porsche Updates the Taycan; Acura Hints at Electric NSX

August 25th, 2021 at 11:56am

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Runtime: 9:00

0:08 Waymo Expands Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service
0:42 How Toyota Weathered the Chip Shortage
1:40 Ram Refreshes the ProMaster Van
3:18 Europe Gets New, Sportier Focus ST
4:15 Acura Hints at Electric NSX
4:53 Cadillac To Race in IMSA & WEC in 2023
6:05 Mazda Ready to Introduce MX-30 To U.S.
6:39 Porsche Updates the Taycan
7:44 Opel Introduces New EV Based on The Citroen Ami

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22 Comments to “AD 3147 – Europe Gets New, Sportier Focus ST; Porsche Updates the Taycan; Acura Hints at Electric NSX”

  1. Bob Wilson Says:

    About chip shortage, Tesla ported their software to what chips were available. This begs the question of board changes for a different chip.

  2. GM Veteran Says:

    In the Ram ProMaster van story, the drive configuration was not mentioned. These Ram vans have been front wheel drive up till now. I assume this is continuing, which gives them a unique proposition in snowy climates versus the RWD competition from Ford, M-B and GM. When they launch the EV version, it will be interesting to see what drive options they offer.

  3. Roger T Says:

    Is Mazda price before tax incentives?
    Cadillac race car looks wicked :)

  4. Drew Says:

    There would be an Acura NSX in my stable, except for one thing… the hybrid powertrain. A pure sports car should either deliver the pure visceral sound of an ICE (flat plane preferred if properly balanced) or the gratifying instantaneous torque of a BEV (I’m not going to drive it cross country). But a hybrid sports car is a hermaphrodite, carrying the weight inefficiency of two half-hearted powertrains.

    Before everyone shoots me for dis’ing hybrids, I fully support hybrids (and have joyfully owned two) as everyday vehicles… just, not for my sports car.

  5. Lambo2015 Says:

    No price given for the Opel Rocks-e? With such a minimalistic short range box, I would hope its under 10K.

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 Ferrari does hybrid road cars, and today’s F1 cars are hybrids, so I guess Honda felt a “modern” exotic should be a hybrid. While I like hybrids too, my current sports car is a non-hybrid with 3 pedals.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2 An advantage of the Promaster I hear mentioned, is that the floor is much lower than with the Transit or Sprinter. With an electric van, FWD probably wouldn’t offer a lot of advantage in that regard.

  8. cwolf Says:

    I think the little Opel has a purpose. Maybe a two seater hatch with another 25 miles of range would be a great city car that the public could learn how EV’s could be better suited in their future. Yeah, a $10K price tag would be a good asking price.

  9. cwolf Says:

    Unfortunately, the Opel doesn’t go very fast, maybe 30 tops. But it recharges in only 3.5 hours using a standard outlet.
    As is, like the Mazda, it doesn’t make the grade.

  10. JoeS Says:

    A $40k Ford Focus without any more power? No thank you.

  11. paulcrane Says:

    That Mazda MX-30 electric mileage is incredible. Not ! Toyota just kill it. And use the money elsewhere.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 Yeah, sounds pricey, but that probably includes VAT. The US market Focus ST started at about $25K, a good value for a fun to drive, but practical car. That is one of the real losses of Ford getting out of the car business in the US.

  13. JoeS Says:

    The 2018 Focus RS with 350hp and all wheel drive was less than $40k

  14. JoeS Says:

    The 2018 Focus RS with 350hp and all wheel drive was less than $40k

  15. TerryQ Says:

    Here is why Toyota kept production when other manufacturers had a better way of dealing with “just in time?” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-fukushima-anniversary-toyota-in/how-toyota-thrives-when-the-chips-are-down-idUSKBN2B1005

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 It was less than $40K in the US, land of low taxes, but was near $50K converted in Europe with VAT.

  17. Sean Wagner Says:

    While it was undoubtedly smart of Toyota to stockpile long-leadtime, essential components, their cutting of global production by 40% in September is a sign of exceptional duress.

    Also, I’d very much appreciate details about the Bolt recall – who at gm is handling communications? It would be good if the new EVs could be introduced without being sucked into the maelstrom of legacy uncertainty.

    I remember Porsche once put their unconventional colors front and center on the autoshow circuit. An advanced modern paint shop (made in either Germany or Italy) can cost several hundred million Euros.

  18. Lambo2015 Says:

    Having worked in a paint facility for many years, multiple color options is an expensive endeavor. Lots of these paints can be anywhere from $75 to a color Lexus uses at $2000 a gallon. So either a production paint line has a dedicated feed that supplies paint from the mixing room to the robots that do the painting or they have to change the color in that line often times daily. They don’t purge the entire line into waste but they insert a pig. Which is like those cylinder like ear plugs to wipe the line clean and prep for a color change. However there is still some waste so when added up a few ounces each week over a whole year it can be expensive.
    A single assembly plant paint shop can typically dedicate a line for each color but at the facility I worked at which was a supplier we painted for at least 5 different manufacturers and around 20 different vehicles with all the color options each vehicle has. So if each vehicle has at least 5 color options we painted 100 different colors. A GM white isn’t the same as a Ford white. So even similar colors could be slightly different enough to require a different paint.

    This was all high volume production vehicles so a manufacturer like Porsche can certainly afford to waste some paint in order to be able to offer any color a consumer wants. Even if they waste $100 worth of paint I’m sure the special order color scheme is an option that more than covers that cost.

  19. Lambo2015 Says:

    18-cont This can also be much more manageable by Porsche if they do all the painted components in-house. Most vehicles have many parts that are painted by suppliers from fascias, mirrors, door handles, rocker panels, even hatch-backs can be painted outside and would require their paint shops to also paint the special order colors. That could be a logistical nightmare for anyone running high volume. I know the special runs of Mary Kay pink alone was often times a struggle. Making sure everything matched for a small run of vehicles. So doing a single car would get very expensive unless done at a single paint shop.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18,19 I just watched a video about Porsche’s “paint to sample,” and it’s a ~$12K option, so they can afford to waste a little paint. I assume they would do those orders in a paint shop like a good body shop might have, where every paint job they do is likely to be a different color from the previous one.

  21. Lambo2015 Says:

    20 I wonder if Porsche paints all special orders like a standard base white or just primer and then paints the cars after assembly. But to do it properly inside door jams and under trunk and hoods it would easily be a 12K paint job. So I doubt that.
    They must be painting them prior to assembly. It would be interesting to see how they are managing this. If they are almost hand built it would be much easier to do than a vehicle running down an assembly line.

  22. Rey Says:

    Those interested in having a clue where Detroit VS Chinese Auto is headed, go Google Sandy Munros latest rant in Munro Live.