AD #3148 – Audi Announces the End of ICEs; Bollinger Expanding Its Commercial Lineup; Toyota to Make Fuel Cell Kits

August 26th, 2021 at 11:51am

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Runtime: 11:10

0:07 Audi Announces the End of ICEs
0:27 Mercedes to Cut Its Engine Lineup in Half
0:54 Ford Delays Return to Office
1:23 How Issues Arose with Roofs for Ford’s Bronco
2:22 Toyota Corolla Reaches Sales Milestone
4:00 Lucid Ready to Launch Its Air Sedan
5:18 Bollinger Expanding Its Commercial Lineup
6:02 Mercedes Reveals New Citan Van
7:58 Toyota to Make Fuel Cells for Big Trucks
9:17 Schaeffler Teams with Universities to Develop Technology

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20 Comments to “AD #3148 – Audi Announces the End of ICEs; Bollinger Expanding Its Commercial Lineup; Toyota to Make Fuel Cell Kits”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    So tired of the lack of common sense when it comes to dealing with CV. On one hand its so deadly Ford needs workers to work from home, but coming in a couple days a week is somehow ok. Its like the businesses that shut down early now.. I guess they figure this virus only comes out at certain times of the night.

    Yes todays Toyota Corolla does offer better features than in 1966. So does my flat screen TV. However color TVs didn’t come out till 1967 they were about $1200. Compare it to todays TV which is 4 times the size a fraction of the weight and unmatched picture quality. They are about the same price. So are those features enough to justify a 40% increase over the already adjusted price for inflation?

    Seems in addition to the added features Toyota has also had 60 years to improve manufacturing and assembly processes to help cut costs.

    I know Autos and TVs aren’t a fair comparison but you can take lots of other products that have improved by leaps and bounds in the last 60 years and they haven’t increased like autos have. Housing is about the only one I can think of.

  2. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Corolla’s are just not the same car (same thing goes for Civics’); they’ve just kept the name. Content, size, and the other factors mentioned make the Corolla through the years as a clean-slated vehicle.

  3. Ken Says:

    I WILL NEVER BUY an all-electric EV. They only work if your driving is just around town. Anyone honestly want to try driving one of those on a road trip exceeding their limited range? Trying to find a convenient place to charge while traveling cross state or the country would be panic inducing.

  4. Lew Says:

    RIP Robin Miller.

  5. XA351GT Says:

    Can’t wait to see these companies like Audi back pedal when their sales crash because no one will buy their EVs and will buy whatever ICEs are still available. It reminds me of bands that announce retirement farewell tours and continue to tour when they have run out of money and then find out no one cares anymore and doesn’t show up to see them.

  6. Roger T Says:

    #1 – Ford’s policy is sensible as few days per week means lower population density in the office, enabling people to retain some face to face interactions while making it easier to social distance.

    And cars and TVs are apples and oranges, as in the case of your TV the old item was not marginally more expensive than raw materials that enabled its assembly, while newer TVs have a lower BoM tally. For cars it’s the other way around. If Toyota were to make a 1960s model again in volume, it would probably cost half as much as the inflation adjusted amount due to operational efficiencies improvements, but the new car certainly costs more to make.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It always seemed silly to talk about the number of Corollas sold, and the Corolla being the best selling car of all time. Toyota Corolla is not like a VW Type 1 (air cooled Beetle), or Model T Ford, in staying very similar during its production lifetime. My sister’s college room mate had a 1979 Corolla, a rear drive two door sedan with a 4 speed manual, no power steering, no A/C, and maybe no radio. There is not much similarity of any kind between that car and a current Corolla, except that they both have four wheels with rubber tires.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    1 My father’s boss in 1954 or 1955 got a color TV, and invited us over to see it. There were very few shows broadcast in color at the time, but some variety shows were in color. I’m pretty sure the TV in question had a 21 inch round picture tube, and probably cost at least $10K in today’s money.

  9. Bobby T Says:

    #8, probably a Zenith. The stayed with round tubes for a long time.

  10. Lambo2015 Says:

    6 Sensible if you have no sense. Ford will not have someone running around wiping down frequently touched surfaces. So you still have people coming into work touching the same door handles, sinks, copy machines vending machine buttons and other surfaces. If I felt a deadly virus could be brought into the building I would not be okay with any capacity. Its either serious or its not.
    Hopefully a legit study is conducted showing if reduced capacity is actually effective.

  11. Kevin A Says:

    If EV range (or charging speed) doesn’t improve dramatically over the next few year, XA351GT’s point could come true. It would be tremendously amusing (to me) if Audi ended up having to offer optional ICE range extenders to make their EV’s into hybrids. Certainly, anyone who doesn’t have access to home charging or needs longer range should stick to plug in hybrids as the more versatile solution.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    8,9 I’m pretty sure that mid-50s color TV was an RCA, but my parents’ first color TV was a 1967 Zenith. It had a rectangular tube, but may have been the beginning of Zenith using rectangular tubes for color sets.

  13. Lambo2015 Says:

    12 My parents has a Zenith around that time with the LP player on one end and the stereo at the other end over two large speakers. Nice wooden cabinet and even had a remote that used a sound frequency. Which is why for years I called remotes the “clicker”. It actually made a sound. Weighed about 100 lbs too.

  14. Wim van Acker Says:

    @3: you decide to never buy an EV based on the first EVs.

    Did your great-grandfather decide to never buy an automobile based on the 1895-1900 models?

    Did you decide to never buy a computer based on the performance of the 1980′s personal computers?

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 I decided to never buy a computer, when it didn’t seem like it would be worth learning MS-DOS for what I’d do with a computer. I changed my mind when Win 95 came along.

  16. Drew Says:

    @14 – I decided to never use Facebook or other social media. Autoline is as close as I come to such things.

    I used to read Paul Niedemeyer’s website, until I realized he really wasn’t a journalist and only created the website to promote his biases against certain manufacturers. When he shamelessly assaulted a famous, well-accomplished, and dead CEO (not Sergio), I just couldn’t take it anymore. Very, very few great leaders are perfect… but to dwell on imperfections without giving credit to amazing accomplishments is unacceptable. This is a “never” that I can live with.

  17. Lambo2015 Says:

    3, 14-16 That can be a problem for EVs as some of the early adopters may actually find them too inconvenient and be reluctant to come back a second time when things have been worked out..
    Same goes for AV. I think releasing any self driving car that is only 70% there is a huge mistake and will eventually hurt that public trust in autonomy. I know you need to start somewhere and things improve over time and that’s fine for EVs where the failure is inconvenience and typical struggles of expanding a support network. But the failures of AV can easily be hospitalization or death.
    Which is why I think Tesla did a huge dis-service to the public allowing them to think their cars can fully self drive when they cannot.

  18. Lambo2015 Says:

    Just had something interesting happen this morning. Was just flipping through MSN stories online when at the bottom of one they have a survey you can take. You get 5 questions and at the end you can see the results. I don’t typically waste my time but the first question was. “How interested are you in an Electric car?” There was a choice of about 5 answers. So I finished and was flipping through the results and this was from 40K respondents. 62% said they were not at all interested in an EV. and only 1% said they had one but didn’t like it. about 12% said they don’t have one but plan to. and the other results I don’t remember. I tried to copy but then my screen just jumped back and I couldn’t get back to the results. So I went to the site and tried to edit my answers just so I could see the results and that question was removed. Humm. Guess they didn’t get the answers they wanted.

  19. cwolf Says:

    Now that the manufactures have decided not to give the public any choice but to buy an EV in the future, I wonder if the ICE could further be improved to meet future environmental regulations. We have learned of new developements in this area but not what became of them. My guess is some manufacturer bought the rights then placed the patent in some hidden file.
    I also wonder if a new start-up, with a new compliant ICE design, would have a chance in todays environment. It certainly would be a game changer for many of us. It would definitely have the manufacturers asking themselves;” Oh boy, what do we do now!”

  20. Joe G Says:

    19 – Yes, just re-watch any ‘Motor Week’ vehicle review rebroadcast from 1980′s or 90′s and see the gas milage back then. Not much improvement in 30 years (except for hybrids, they are amazing around town).

    1- But I thought we had a great vaccine for the FLU virus, and if you just take it, all will go back to normal ???? (Ask the 90% vaxxed Isreal how that is working out). We will be wearing paper masks forever for the FLU. Maybe Ford is saving too much money by using remote employees.