AD #3229 – Rivian Delivers 1st R1S SUVs; BMW Teases New LMDh Race Car; NHTSA Opens Investigation into Tesla

December 22nd, 2021 at 11:47am

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Runtime: 8:41

0:08 NHTSA Opens Investigation into Tesla Over In-Car Video Games
1:11 New Mines for EV Materials Face Opposition in U.S.
2:08 EU Developing Own Sources for Microchips
3:29 New Technology Could Help AV Systems Operate More of The Time
4:21 BMW Teases New LMDh Race Car
4:55 VW Invests $20 Million In U.S. Dealers for EV Transition
5:44 Bridgestone To Provide Maintenance to Fisker Owners in Europe
6:37 Chevy Bolt Software Update Available to All Owners Now
7:14 Rivian Delivers 1st R1S SUVs

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38 Comments to “AD #3229 – Rivian Delivers 1st R1S SUVs; BMW Teases New LMDh Race Car; NHTSA Opens Investigation into Tesla”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Enjoy your break, Autoline staff. It’s been an interesting year.

  2. Norm T Says:

    Wait…so Rivian’s first EV deliveries were to employees and not the public, with on employee getting one of each?

  3. Jeff Taylor Says:

    I hope you all enjoy your well-deserved break and thanks for another year of the best automotive content on the Internet!

  4. wmb Says:

    I think the US has come to a crossroad of sorts. While environmentalist want and have pushed for for BEVs, with the intent of doing less harm to the environment. Mining raw materials here in the US, will use keep local cost under control and help the country be more self reliant. Yet, mining, in and of itself, is in direct conflict and at odds with those same environmentalist! To make omelettes you have to break a few eggs, as the saying goes! So to get the future they want, they have to go against what they currently stand for! This is the same moral dilemma, that many have had to answer for themselves! ‘To get where they want to be, are they willing to do things that they were brought up and were taught not to do?’

    That said, with all the technology that we have today, are you telling me that they only way to mine precious materials, are by using the old archaic methods of a hundred years ago? This is not a critique, but an honest question.

  5. Lex Says:

    Happy and Healthy Holiday to the entire Autoline Team!

    Too bad Mark Fields did not propose the same arrangement to Elon Musk and Tesla, similar to the new arrangement between Fisker and Bridgestone.

    The Hertz Rental Centers could be delivery points where there are no Tesla Stores, and also become warranty service centers which would provide a Tesla rental vehicle while the warranty service was performed.

  6. Lambo2015 Says:

    Hilarious that all these environmentalists were all on board for electric cars and are the same ones apposing the mining required to make the batteries for EVs. One day they’ll realize there will always be a price to pay for every modern day convenience.

    On the ground sensing radar; Pretty soon that 50k vehicle will be 25K in sensors cameras and radar/lidar. I hope you will still be able to just a plain car you actually drive for 25K.

  7. Lambo2015 Says:

    Just recently drove from Northern Ohio to SC and back. One of the vehicles we used had the lane assist feature. About 5 of us took turns driving and every one that drove that car shut it off. Found it more annoying then helpful.

  8. Bobby T Says:

    Merry Christmas and a happy new year to the Autoline staff. Enjoy your time off. See you Jan 3.

  9. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Happy Holidays to all; Autoline staff, viewers and sponsors. May the new year bring a greater sense of normalcy to us all.

    Agree, that there is some hypocrisy with BEV and the mining of ores that are required to produce them. What ever happened to compromise; do the best you can with the hand that you are dealt. Mining is inevitable; do it as ‘green’ as practical and don’t lose sight of the ‘goal’.

  10. Bobby T Says:

    I think the front end of that BMW looks like what happens when you stick your fingers in the corners of your mouth and pull!

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The environmentalists don’t want the mining want the mining at all, even though it’s needed, and the anti-environmentalists might want the mining in the US, but far away from their McMansions. Both will use the courts to delay mining, so China wins.

  12. Cozy colr Says:

    Enjoy your holiday break. From the days of Sunday autoline on speedvision to 3 shows a week it’s been a great ride. Thanks so much!

  13. MJB Says:

    Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you John, Sean and the entire Autoline team! 13+ years and counting!

    @2 – I’ve got no problems with the first two Rivians going to the two top people at the company. Scaringe is the founder of Rivian. As the entrepreneur who made these vehicles a reality after 12 long years of effort, he’s taken on much greater risk than any ‘customer’ ever will. I don’t think any customer really feels slighted by this. It’s his ‘baby’, after all.

  14. ChuckGrenci Says:

    My opinion of the new BMW styling: “how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood”.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    If you want decent styling from BMW, you need to go low with MINI, or go very high with Rolls-Royce. They must have thought the BMW brand vehicles were looking too much like KIAs.

    This Reuters article is a sample of the “not in my back yard” issues with new mines, this one in North Carolina.

  16. JWH Says:

    Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to the Autoline Staff. Will be listening to you next year.

  17. Drew Says:

    A very merry Christmas to all. And a happy, safe, and healthy New Year, too.

  18. Dave Says:

    People want to enjoy the benefits of the mined material without any mines in their country that’s called being a NIMBY reminds me of the environmentalists in Seattle protesting the use of fossil fuels, in their plastic kayaks made from petroleum

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 Especially, people who don’t want the mines in their county, like with the linked article in #15, are NIMBY. Most of them would be ok with the mine a couple hundred miles away. I wouldn’t want a mine next door to my home either.

  20. Barry Rector Says:

    To everyone at Autoline, many many thanks for everything you do to produce these wonderful informative programs! I look forward to watching them every day!
    Great holidays to all. Looking forward to Jan 3 already.

  21. Ukendoit Says:

    To all those at Autoline, and the regular commenters, have a Merry Christmas and a great New Year. John, Sean, the rest of the family and crew at Autoline, enjoy your well deserved break. This will be a good time for the rest of us to review some of your archived shows listed on the right of this page. The past “new” vehicles and “new” technology can be entertaining, the old April Fools shows are a hoot, and we get to see more of old familiar faces that aren’t on so much anymore like Sean’s brother Seamus and the other news personalities.

  22. Ukendoit Says:

    Some of those Autoline Dailys in the Archives include reports from “Autoline Correspondent” Sean McElroy, his brother Seamus, Drew Winter, Peter De Lorenzo, Jim Hall, Murray Feldman, Christie Schweinsberg, Mike Austin, and Jason Vines. All blasts from the past. The old graphics and music are fun, too. Some really old shows require Flash to watch though!
    One report from 8 years ago, about the old Moke re-entering production might become relevant again; I just read that the Moke is introducing an electric version of the retro Moke in 2022 (link above).

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 Who is the new Moke company? Is BMW involved, since they own the rest of the MINI brand? I couldn’t tell for the web site who the current Moke company actually is.

  24. Bob Wilson Says:

    Mining is solved by the ‘Boring Company.’ Stay 10 m below the surface and send the ore via EV truck to a rail head.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I didn’t know it, but Moke must be a generic term, nothing to do with Mini, etc. The British one in Ukendoit’s link goes 100 km/h and has 144 km range. Then, I found an American Moke that goes 25 mph, with a range of 40 miles.

    There must not be any connection, except the name Moke.

  26. Sean Wagner Says:

    Merry Christmas, and an extra scoop of serenity to all. Also, godspeed to the Ariane 5 readying for liftoff with its precious cargo.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    26 I just say the liftoff and separation on live NASA stream. The launch went well. Now, there are months of waiting with many milestones to go.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    That’s “saw,” not “say.”

  29. ChuckGrenci Says:

    26-28: I saw that the Webb Space Telescope has 34 sequences (that need to be performed flawlessly or nearly) for proper operation; wishing them well. I believe some time in the Summer we’ll get a better idea of success. It certainly sounds exciting.

    And a Merry Christmas to all! It’s fixing to get a little busy (’round here) soon. :)

  30. joe Says:

    If we people don’t wake-up in our country, we will become a third world country!! I referring to the environmentalists, ranchers, native Americans, local landowners and even some government agencies who are opposed to opening new mines.

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    30 Well, we are becoming a “third world” country because we are unwilling to spend money on universal health care, decent public transportation, and decent passenger rail, Meanwhile, congress is all in for spending almost a trillion dollars a year, every year, on the military, when we already have the capability to end life on earth many times over.

    Yeah, we need availability of certain minerals, whether from mines in someone’s “back yard” here, or from stable sources around the world. Depending on China, and sources controlled by China can be very precarious.

  32. Lambo2015 Says:

    31 Universal healthcare would be great if it was non-profit and not managed by the government. Since they do so well with medicare and maidcaid and the VA I’d rather not have government healthcare. Anything the gov provides they can also take away and what can you do then?

    As for mass public tansit: Europe is far more densely built, and its older cities—settled centuries before the automotive age—will always be innately transit-friendlier. In Asian cities, meanwhile, explosive urban growth has been accompanied (and accelerated) by massive government investments in urban rail networks. But the U.S. boomed in the 20th-century’s automobile age, and the private car is still king; most American cities and their suburbs are utterly dependent on them. Too spread out and most need transportation to get to the mass transit we do have. North and South of NY there are huge lots of cars for those that take the train into the city. So yea they save everyone driving into the city but not like they be without a car. Mass transit in the US will be a struggle.
    Plus I’m not so sure we spend so much on military as we line the pockets of the elite.

    Hope everyone had a safe and pleasant holiday. Look forward to Sean returning and hopefully a more normal 2022 but that’s not looking promising right now.

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    32 Medicare has worked well for me for 10 years, and counting. Yes, most American cities are dependant on cars, not because cars work well for big cities, but because transit sucks most places in the US.

  34. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Looking forward to another year of Autoline.

  35. Bob Wilson Says:

    Tesla announces making over 936,000 EV cars in 2021. In 2022, Tesla manufacturing sites will double from two to four. The newest ones will apply lessons learned in the first two manufacturing facilities.

  36. Ukendoit Says:

    Re: Moke; A moke is a slang term for a mule, but someone may own the patent for Moke as a recreational vehicle. The websites of the two current companies Kit and I mentioned earlier are very cryptic about their origins and who owns them. Moke International “Since 1964, Steer clear of immitations” and Moke America “available exclusively in the USA”.
    They both tell the origins of the English Moke and claim to be original, but it sounds like neither is the real deal. The Moke was originally designed by Sir Alec Issigonis (who designed the Mini) and owned by British Motor Corp and marketed under Austin, Morris, and Leyland. I can’t tell if the patent expired, was purchased, or if they are just pushing the legality, but evidently the Moke International is a subsidiary of Chery (the Chinese car company) and is marketed as MOKE (all caps) and made in France.
    The Moke America imports parts from the Chinese companies (Sicar Engineering and Moke International), and uses their own electric powertrain.

  37. Ukendoit Says:

    Looks like they did acquire the Moke trademark in 2015.

  38. Kit Gerhart Says:

    36,37 I’ve seen Mini Moke rentals on Caribbean islands when on cruises. Maybe they were mainly on British islands, Barbados and Tortola, or maybe Grand Cayman.