AD #3232 – Chevy Reveals Electric Silverado; Chrysler Brand Going All Electric; Volvo Hires a New CEO

January 5th, 2022 at 12:15pm

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Runtime: 9:36

0:07 Chevy Reveals Electric Silverado
1:59 Chrysler Brand Going All Electric
3:39 BMW iX Gets More Power
4:57 Mercedes Ready for Electric Camping
5:24 Sony Shows New Electric Prototype
6:49 Volvo Hires New CEO
7:33 GM Loses Its U.S. Sales Crown

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36 Comments to “AD #3232 – Chevy Reveals Electric Silverado; Chrysler Brand Going All Electric; Volvo Hires a New CEO”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I hope Chrysler, er Stellantis revives the Dodge Caravan, rather than turning the minivan market over completely to the Asians.

    It looks like GM wants to gift most of the electric pickup market to Ford, since they plan to sell only the $100K+ version to regular customers. Maybe that strategy will work for making money, if anyone actually buys the expensive ones.

  2. Cozy cole Says:

    Omg. A Chevy EV Avalanche!!

  3. Cozy cole Says:

    Omg. A Chevy EV Avalanche!!

  4. Buzzerd Says:

    Funny as I was coming home today with drywall in the back of my Avalanche I was thinking how much I really like the midgate feature and there we have it, an electric Avalanche… er Silverado. Pricey but not ridiculous. I would certainly consider it if the range was decent when towing a trailer.

  5. Buzzerd Says:

    The fleet Silverado will start at $40,000 and the full on Silverado will be $100K, so there will be mid range models for ???? $75,000 possibly?

  6. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I believe the 105-thousand-dollar Silverado is the RST launch edition; I would think that lesser editions will be forthcoming. The range, if delivered looks very good; wonder what real world mileage will be (considering less than ideal weather and the hit it will take when towing). The Chevy will, at least, be an alternative to the others: Ford, Rivian, and maybe Tesla if they ever make any of those ‘triangle’ trucks.

  7. Lambo2015 Says:

    GM apparently incapable of making a good basic electric vehicle. I get that they have huge profit margins on all the accessories but dang just offer an electric truck that can compete with Ford.
    Did they even survey truck owners? Willing to bet most could care less about all the cameras and sensors or any autonomous capabilities.
    A real truck owner will have mud and dirt on the tires where most of those feature probably wont work anyway. Just seems GM is making a truck for the sake of making an electric truck. At 100K they will likely still lose money on that truck.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2,3,4 From linked article, it looks like the not-for-the-general-public electric Silverado work truck will not have the mid gate, but will be sold only as a “crew cab,” like the expensive one. You’d think that if they aren’t going to sell it as an actual work truck with an 8 foot bed, they’d offer the mid gate as an option. Maybe they will, at some point, if a lot of people seem to want it.

  9. Buzzerd Says:

    @7 I’m not sure what you’re referring to with ” sensors and cameras” but the only difference between this truck and a fully loaded truck right now is the electric motors. Modern trucks, that they sell a ton of, have almost all of that stuff now, possibly not the super cruse. A Tahoe can be outfitted with the super cruse I’m pretty sure.

  10. Lambo2015 Says:

    8 I doubt it, they seem to just keep making more dumb move after another. Besides how are they going to get the general public to fork up 100K after they sell the same truck minus some options for 60% less?
    The work/fleet truck should certainly have the mid-gate as well as the 110 and 220V outlets. They just miss the mark on this truck so bad its confusing.

  11. Max Says:

    Not sure if I agree with your assessment of Toyota not being able to hold the sales leadership crown they wrestled from GM. As you correctly stated, GM couldn’t build all the vehicles they are capable of, but isn’t that true of all the automakers, including Toyota? Seems all the automakers had chip issues which in turn reduced their production. Thus it seems it should have been a pretty level playing field for Toyota to move ahead. Or was Toyota able to get chips when other (including GM) couldn’t?

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6 Yeah, they will surely sell “mid trim” versions after the small initial market for the $105K version is filled.

    None of these electric trucks will have much range when towing anything very big. They should work for towing a back hoe 10 miles to a construction site, but most people might not like having only 100 miles of range when towing an RV on a long trip. Then, they’d generally need to unhitch the trailer while charging.

    I read that someone in Europe is selling, or will be selling electric camping trailer that would bring range closer to normal for the tow vehicle. I’d think that would take some well though out controls to avoid very quirky, and dangerous handling, but renting trailers like that for once-a-year vacations makes sense, if they work ok.

  13. Lambo2015 Says:

    9 I’m talking about how every manufacturer seems to think that electric powertrain and autonomy has to go together.
    I currently own a truck as a second vehicle, so I don’t drive it daily. But I use it as a truck hauling lumber, towing our boat and trailer. I don’t like all the sensors it already has and have the parking sensors turned off most of the time. (I can park without hitting the things around me). For me the options I do like is the back-up camera, heated wheel and seats. That’s about it.

  14. cozy cole Says:

    My friend had a 04 Avalanche till just last year. worked great for his needs and around these eastern Pa. parts it started to rust around all the lower cladding. It finally failed Pa. inspection and he had to leave it go. But the guy he sold it to says the engine lives on in something else.

  15. WineGeek Says:

    So now that GM is not #1 in sales for whatever the reason may be are they going to start making their own chips so this can never happen again or are they going to save a few $ a chip and buy them from Asia and be at their mercy?

    This entire chip shortage is something that never should have happened. It is entirely caused by the incessant drum beat of Wall Street pushing the spineless executives to cut all costs at any cost to increase their quarterly numbers. The future be damn!

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 GM made chips at one time, and I worked in one of the wafer fabs in Indiana. They were not competitive with the Intels of the world, so got out of that business. They even grew silicon ingots into the ’80s or early ’90s. I doubt that they, or even Toyota are likely to get into the semiconductor production business, just like Ford is unlikely to re-start their steel mills in Michigan.

  17. Drew Says:

    It’d be interesting to see a comparison of the electric Silverado and the new Hummer pickup. I suspect GM conducted a bit a badge-engineering, which can explain why the Silverado may not be price competitive (vs. Lightning) with the all its Hummer-based content.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Isn’t the car companies’ chip shortage largely a result of their cancelling orders after plants shut down because of the pandemic, and then companies making Chrome books, game consoles, etc. “took up the slack” and bought the production the car companies had cancelled? At least that was the story a year or so ago.

  19. ArtG Says:

    11- Yes. Toyota stockpiled chips.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-07/how-toyota-s-supply-chain-helped-it-weather-the-chip-shortage

  20. Merv Peters Says:

    If you don’t sign up and wait like Kit did for his corvette,you won’t be buying the new silverado for $105k, they will be msrp plus a bunch over.

  21. MJB Says:

    @4 “…pricey but not ridiculous…”? Ummm, I get it that there are some high-priced vehicles on the market these days – i.e., top trim F150 @ $90k; top trim Jeep Wagoneer @ $89k+; etc. But $105k for a pick-up truck still seems ridiculous to me.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    21 My ~$68K Corvette was quite a bargain, with much of the competition costing over $200K. A $105K pickup truck seems less of a bargain. Even a basic pickup truck would be much better, though, for transporting a half ton of horse manure or other cargo than a Corvette.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I used to see Corvettes with trailer hitches, but not since C6s. C7s have the exhaust in the middle, complicating things, and I doubt if there are good options for attaching a hitch to a C8.

  24. wmb Says:

    I can’t believe many are over looking the elephant in the room. The electric Silverado is not a truck, but much like the Honda Ridgeline, Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz, it’s an SUV with a bed!! Like the Avalanche of old (IMHO this is what they should have called it, or, at $105K, an Escalade SUT, but I digress), which was built from the bones of the Chevy Suburban, this vehicle should get the same treatment from real truck loverrs, as they berate the Ridgeline for not being a ‘real truck’. Personally, I like them all (the Silverado, F-150, Ram, Ridgeline, Tundra, Maverik, Santa Cruz, etc. and even this BEV SUT), but it always bothered me that folks would get on their high horse and talk down the unibody pick-ups. Now that GM is once again offering a unibody electric pickup, where do the ‘that ain’t no real pick-up truck’ loyalist now stand?!?!

  25. wmb Says:

    …I am also really disappointed in the Airflow. I understand it’s only a concept, but it looks pretty production-ready. But where is the exciting styling of the Charger, Challenger, Magnum, and 300? The rear three quarter view looks interesting, but, overall, it looks so very ‘also-ran’, to my eye. I see flashes of Mach-E, Model 3, X and Y and ID in so much of it! I know that getting the aerodynamics right has no doubt impacted it’s shape. Yet, this concept has come out after vehicles like the Lucid Air with its good looks and even some products in China have some very eye catching designs. I know Stellantis can do better then this with their Chrysler brand and this is not it!

    The BMW iXM (or MiX [now would that be interesting]) is another head scratcher! $106K for the M styling treatment (different interior badges, accent trim and bigger wheels) and a little more than half a second faster to 60 over the iX50? Smh!

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 The electric Silverado’s not being a “truck” might make it better than the competition. After all, the Ridgeline is better than the similar size competition from Chevy and Ford in nearly every way, except price.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 Yeah, the Airflow is pretty generic looking. My favorite Chrysler concept ever was the Atlantic, though that one was never even remotely intended for production.

    https://www.below-the-radar.com/chrysler-atlantic/

  28. wmb Says:

    #26.) I have no problem with the Ridgeline and believe that OEMs that have body of frame pick-ups, could learn a lot from it and still stay true to their current design (a bof pick-up AND a magic trailgate, how awesome would that be?!). Yet, its the way it has been treated as a unibody pick-up and truck folk saying it’s not a real one! The Ridgeline has its limits, but can preform most of what ‘real’ pick-ups can do. Now Chevy has a full size unibody pick-up (that just happens to be a BEV). So, my question is, if truck folk consider it a real pick-up, what does that make the Ridgeline?

  29. Sean Wagner Says:

    16 Kit – Interesting. Was there anyone else going so far as to grow the cylindrical silicon ingots in-house?

    (They’re cut into thin slices to make wafers, which after lithography are further separated into individual chips.)

    I can’t wrap my mind around 200kWh batteries given present technology and cell availability. Give it five more years at least.

    The penalty for that compromise-on-wheels means it comes in at thrice the mass of a modern, pretty grown-up Civic, but remains inherently limited. No chance of meaningful overseas sales either.

    The new Chevrolet Equinox EV on the other hand looks like exactly the mass-market electric crossover GM needs right now.

    Very well done all-round, including the difficult integration of the headlights. The design has a Renault-y vibe with those pronounced haunches.

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    29 GM’s semiconductor manufacturing, including the silicon crystal growing, was done by Delco Electronics division in Kokomo, Indiana. I don’t know of other car companies growing silicon, but I suspect Philco-Ford might have in the ’60s-early ’70s. Some European and/or Asian car companies might have done so, but I don’t know.

    Delco shut down its crystal growing and bought all of their wafers several years before the fabs closed.

  31. Lambo2015 Says:

    I guess I’m not that familiar with GMs Ultium platform. I assume its a unibody based on the comments here. Does the battery pack become a structural member?
    I’m not sure that anyone will care if its frame or unibody as long as the structural rigidity is there. Makes me wonder how they are supported when swapping batteries.

  32. JoeS Says:

    23. I have a friend who put a receiver behind the license plate of his C6 and did the same for his C7 ZO6. He takes his Goldwing and bicycle on a trailer with him to winter in Florida from Cleveland.

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    32 It would be interesting to see how he did it, especially with the C7. The setup would need to be well worked out to tow the likely 1000+ pounds of the Gold Wing and trailer.

  34. MERKUR DRIVER Says:

    31) The biggest issue with Unibody versus BOF is towing capacity. The Ridgeline has a towing capacity of 5000 pounds versus the similar sized Colorado and Ranger at 7700 pounds. This is all due to the limitations of unibody construction that the ridgeline has. At 8,000 pounds this EV Silverado is a full size truck with the towing capacity of a mid size truck.

    For reference, the Full Size 1500 Silverado in ICE form has a towing capacity of 9800 pounds when properly configured and it is significantly cheaper. So anybody looking to tow things is not looking at the electric Silverado which tows less for 2X the price. There is no value in this electric pickup truck from GM at a $105K price point. Good for people that want to flaunt how much money they have. But those people are typically buying Range Rovers or Escalades, not Chevrolets. I am not sure who this truck will appeal to at $105K. Maybe the fleet only version at $40K will be appealing if that has good range and load carrying capacity. They are limiting something for that cheaper price though but they have not yet said what that limitation is.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    34 Colorado and Ranger have a higher tow rating than Ridgeline, but that difference matters to only a handful of potential buyers of those trucks. The tow rating of even large pickups matters to only a handful of buyers.

    As far as electric pickups’ tow rating, the range will be so short if towing anything very big, that the tow rating will matter to even fewer potential buyers.

  36. Lambo2015 Says:

    34, 35 The towing thing has gone a bit crazy anyway. Most 1/2 ton are close to the 10K towing capacity. Yet most set-ups would advise 10%-15% of total weigh to be tongue weight or 1000-1500 lbs and if they only have a class 3 hitch the max weight capacity is 500lbs.
    Class 4 hitches max weight is 1000lbs. so you can still exceed the capacity with proper distribution. So although they say they can tow 9500lbs your realistically looking at 8000 lbs safely.
    I would say most people stay around the 7500lbs max for the 1/2 ton and if they know they are towing more move up to the 3/4 or 1 ton.