AD #3332 – High Gas Prices Give Sedans a Boost; Buick Revives Electra Name; Bronco Raptor Power Numbers Revealed
May 25th, 2022 at 11:56am
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0:08 High Gas Prices Give Sedans a Boost
1:24 Ford Reveals Bronco Raptor’s Power Numbers
2:17 Ford Settles Fuel Economy & Payload Capacity Lawsuit
3:37 Honda Teases New CR-V
3:57 Buick Revives Electra Name for First Ultium EV
4:42 GM Patents Dual Charging Port for EVs
5:21 Marelli Shows Off Wireless Battery Management System
7:10 Forvia Develops Intelligent Seat
8:12 Hyundai Issues Recall Over Exploding Seat Belt Part
9:07 BMW Partners to Recycle Used EV Batteries In China
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HIGH GAS PRICES GIVE SEDANS A BOOST
Gas prices have a big impact on the types of vehicles consumers buy. And with the price of gas spiking in the U.S., it’s not too surprising that car buyers are now more likely to consider buying a sedan or an electrified vehicle. Kelley Blue Book released its Brand Watch for the first quarter of the year, which is a consumer perception report that includes shopping behavior data. It found that 37% of non-luxury buyers considered a sedan in the first quarter, up from 31% in the fourth quarter of 2021 and the highest it’s been in a while. That was just ahead of pickups at 35%. At the end of last year, no sedans were on the list of top-ten most shopped vehicles. But in Q1, the Toyota Camry and the Honda Accord and Civic made the most shopped list. And one-quarter of buyers considered an electrified vehicle, with Tesla, Toyota and Ford being the most popular brands with EV shoppers. However, SUVs remain very popular, 66% of non-luxury buyers considered an SUV, despite higher gas prices.
FORD REVEALS BRONCO RAPTOR’S POWER NUMBERS
When Ford revealed the Raptor version of the Bronco earlier this year, it said its 3.0L twin-turbo V6 engine would deliver more than 400 horsepower. And now we know its official power numbers. CEO Jim Farley tweeted that the SUV is rated at 418 horsepower and 440 lb-ft of torque. But as you can imagine fuel economy isn’t that great. It has an EPA rated 15 MPG combined, but that’s one more MPG than its competitor, the Jeep Wrangler 392, which is powered by a 6.4L V8. Ford will start delivering the Bronco Raptor this summer, which has a starting price of just under $70,000. That’s about $3,000 more than the F-150 Raptor.


FORD SETTLES FUEL ECONOMY & PAYLOAD CAPACITY LAWSUIT
And in other Ford news, the automaker agreed to settle a lawsuit in the U.S. over allegations it overstated the fuel economy of the C-Max Hybrid and the payload capacity of Super Duty pickups. Ford is paying $19.2 million in the settlement, which includes 40 states and the District of Columbia. They claim Ford falsely advertised how far owners could travel on one tank of gas in 2013 and 2014 C-Max Hybrids and that it used a deceptive method to calculate the payload capacity of 2011 to 2014 Super Duty trucks. However, Ford did not have to admit any wrongdoing.
HONDA TEASES NEW CR-V
Here’s a better look at the all-new Honda CR-V, which it says has increased versatility, a more advanced hybrid system and more capability. To us it looks like styling is more of a refresh with updated front and rear ends, but we’ll find out more when it debuts this summer.

BUICK REVIVES ELECTRA NAME FOR FIRST ULTIUM EV
Buick’s first EV from the Ultium platform will be a crossover, called the Electra-X. Many of you I’m sure will remember the Electra name. It was featured in Buick’s lineup from 1959 until 1990. But going back to the new model, it has a more shark-nose front end than we’ve seen from any other Ultium-based vehicle and it appears to have a camera-based side view mirror system, which would also be a first for Ultium vehicles. And we’d note, from what we’ve seen, it doesn’t have anything in common with the Electra concept that debuted almost 2 years ago. The Electra-X will be revealed in early June.

GM PATENTS DUAL CHARGING PORT FOR EVs
Speaking of GM, it filed a patent for a dual port charging outlet for electric vehicles. The first port can handle either low- or high-voltage charging, while the second only does low-voltage. So, the vehicle could take high- and low-voltage charging at the same time or low- and low-voltage charging, depending on what the station can put out. This is meant to speed up charging times and would be great for GM’s Ultium vehicles that use its large battery pack, which is essentially two battery packs sandwiched together.

MARELLI SHOWS OFF WIRELESS BATTERY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
Sticking with EV architectures for a moment, the supplier Marelli launched a new wireless battery management system. By eliminating the need for wires that allow communication between the batteries and their control unit, Marelli says automakers can simplify battery cell construction and installation, add more flexibility for battery module placement and reduce the wire harness by 90%. The wireless BMS is available this quarter and could hit the market by 2024. And the name Marelli might sound familiar. Magneti Marelli was the in-house parts supplier for Fiat, then FCA, for many years before it was sold off in 2018 to merge with Japanese automotive company Calsonic Kansei, which is now just Marelli and one of the largest automotive suppliers in the world.

FORVIA DEVELOPS INTELLIGENT SEAT
The seat is probably one of the most important components in a car, if you’re not comfortable you’ll have a lousy time riding around. So to make driving more pleasurable, the supplier Forvia, which is the new company formed by Faurecia’s acquisition of Hella, is showing off an intelligent seat that’s focused on enriching the driving experience and wellness of the driver. Called Seat for Me, it’s equipped with an all-in-one sensor that’s linked to software which is able to monitor the position of the body and measure fatigue or poor posture. It can then automatically adjust seating position, bolster the seat or start a massage function to improve comfort and prevent driver drowsiness. In addition to that, it can vibrate to alert the driver and it features speakers in the head rest which only the driver can hear. Forvia says the seat technology could hit the market in the next 2 to 3 years.

HYUNDAI ISSUES RECALL OVER EXPLODING SEAT BELT PART
We usually don’t cover vehicle recalls because they’re so frequent, literally several times a week. But here’s one that’s so unusual that we decided to report on it. Hyundai is recalling 281,000 Elantras and Accents in the U.S. and Canada because the seat belt pretensioner can explode. Three people have already been injured, two in the US and one in Singapore. The pretensioner uses a small pyrotechnic device to drive a spool that quickly pulls in all the slack in the belt the instant a collision occurs. But in this case, the pretensioner doesn’t just drive the spool, it explodes and can send shrapnel flying in the passenger cabin. Hyundai also had a recall for the same problem with the Venue and Genesis GV70 and GV80.


BMW PARTNERS TO RECYCLE USED EV BATTERIES IN CHINA
Battery recycling keeps making progress. BMW is teaming up with the Chinese company Huayou to recycle used batteries from EVs. Huayou will extract nickel, cobalt, and lithium and deliver them to BMW which will use the materials to make new batteries. It says this will reduce the carbon footprint of those raw materials by 70% compared to mining them out of the ground. Since there aren’t that many used EV batteries for them to recycle right now, they’re going to start with used batteries from fork-lift trucks.
A programming note here. There will not be an Autoline After Hours show this Thursday as John and Gary have decided to take an extended Memorial Day weekend. But they’ll be back next week with 4 entrepreneurs who were voted as the most innovative automotive startup companies, and the technology they’ve developed will make your jaw drop.
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May 25th, 2022 at 12:16 pm
Ford’s mis-representation lawsuit (in a nutshell): The government(s) get the money but nothing to the buyers. (who may or may not been swayed by the advertisement embellishments)
There wasn’t enough of the upcoming Buick BEV to determine styling, but thankfully, it isn’t anything close to the earlier concept, which looks hideous IMO.
The dual-charge ports in the GMs’ might be of some use to the home chargers by hooking up two 110v chargers as opposed to buying a 240v charger and incur electrician fees for installation.
May 25th, 2022 at 2:42 pm
So they have the solution to EV charging. In order to fill up in the same time as an ICE you just need a dozen charging ports and cords. Just flip up the simulated grill to expose the power-strip of outlets.
May 25th, 2022 at 2:45 pm
1 – At the time this misrepresentation came to light, Ford changed the window labels to more accurate mileage estimates and sent $500 checks to all of the owners of the affected vehicles. That would buy a lot of gas for a C-Max back then. The lawsuit came after these actions.
May 25th, 2022 at 2:47 pm
I’m having a hard time with the 90% reduction in the wiring harness statement in the Marelli story. Maybe they just meant the powertrain wiring harness? Ya still gotta have wiring for the windows, locks, defroster, power seats, etc., etc. With all of that still being necessary, I don’t see how they could achieve a 90% reduction.
May 25th, 2022 at 3:30 pm
3, Thanks for setting me straight on the Ford settlement. The 500 dollars would seem to be compensry enough in a practical sense; meaning, seems fair to me.
May 25th, 2022 at 3:53 pm
4 I’d think it could reduci wiring 90%, in eliminating the need to individually wire out thousands of cells for balancing, or groups of cells.
May 25th, 2022 at 4:00 pm
The GM dual charge ports could double the charge rate using existing 120v outlets in your garage, but you’d need two outlets on separate breakers. Some garages would have that, but many would not.
May 25th, 2022 at 4:12 pm
I have some concerns about using wifi (I hope not Bluetooth) for the battery management system in an EV. The reliability and performance difference is similar to plugging in to an ethernet cable or using wifi in a big apartment building.
Each cell reports its voltage. The wires are small, not big fat orange ones. Sorry, I’d stick to a wired BMS.
Tesla with their billions of small cells successfully use a wired BMS. If Tesla goes Marelli, I’d see that as a vote of confidence.
May 25th, 2022 at 4:14 pm
Another thought: each cell would need a wifi transmitter/receiver on it to replace the wire. Cars are moving their BMS into the battery compartment. Where’s the savings?
May 25th, 2022 at 4:31 pm
7 Yeah, I’d trust the wires a lot more.
May 26th, 2022 at 8:26 am
4 A 90% wiring reduction could mean lots of things. 90% reduction is just that system. 90% reduction in length by the inch. 90% reduction in weight. Or just 90% reduction in complexity meaning 1 wire replaced 10 even if its twice the size. Certainly could use better clarification. Those marketing guys are good at making it always sound better than it really is.
May 26th, 2022 at 8:36 am
The Forvia seat seems like the solution to the problem I never had. If I’m uncomfortable I typically will adjust my seat accordingly. I don’t need my car to adjust my seat to what it thinks I need, or more alarms vibrations when it falsely thinks I’m fatigued.
However the seat is one of those items you don’t typically upgrade or replace after purchase. Also even if the car has no style is an ugly color and doesn’t even have great driving characteristics. A lot can be overlooked when you have a really good comfortable seat that you can travel in for hours and not get uncomfortable. So as vehicles become more and more alike, Absolutely invest in some great seats as those and ergonomics type of things will become what makes a vehicle stand out from all the other look alike CUV/SUVs.
May 26th, 2022 at 8:55 am
11 I don’t like car seats to have too many adjustments, because I don’t know what to do with all of them. Done properly, non-power seats with fore-aft, height, and recliner adjustments are fine for me. The seats in my 2010 Mini had those adjustments, and were comfortable for me on long trips.
May 26th, 2022 at 9:10 am
12. I would add adjustable lumbar support to your must have list.
May 26th, 2022 at 10:25 am
Totally off topic from the show today, but I saw my first Cadillac Lyriq in person today. That vehicle will be a hit. The pictures don’t do it justice. If they can make sure it is reliable and keep cost under control, they will sell as many as they can produce.