AD #3351 – Peugeot Aims New 408 Fastback at SUV Buyers; VW Teases New EV Sedan; BMW Reveals 1st Ever M3 Wagon

June 22nd, 2022 at 11:53am

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Runtime: 9:48

0:08 GM Accelerates EV Production Plans
0:37 Ford’s Spain Plant to Produce Next-Gen EVs
1:07 Toyota Slashes Production…Again
1:30 Toyota & Redwood Partner on EV Battery Recycling
3:02 Volkswagen Teases New ID. AERO Electric Sedan
3:42 Peugeot Aims New 408 Fastback at SUV Buyers 
5:58 IIHS: Pandemic Lockdowns Made Risky Driving New Normal
7:10 BMW Introduces 1st Ever M3 Wagon
8:15 Porsche Struggled to Incorporate Brand DNA In the Cayenne

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21 Comments to “AD #3351 – Peugeot Aims New 408 Fastback at SUV Buyers; VW Teases New EV Sedan; BMW Reveals 1st Ever M3 Wagon”

  1. Stu Says:

    The M3 wagon is nice. Too bad we’ll never see it here in the US. It’s frustrating to me that wagons aren’t available despite the increase in practicality over a sedan, and the better fuel economy and styling over an SUV/CUV.

    Why is Toyota having so much more of an issue with production? The chip shortage is affecting everyone, but they are the only ones that are reported as having to reduce their numbers. Were they just too aggressive in their estimates, or is everyone else just being more quiet about it?

  2. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I learned something about M3s from today’s show. I was thinking they had made M3 wagons in earlier generations, like E36, but just didn’t sell them in the US, but that was not the case.

    The new M3 wagon looks fairly nice, except for the nose. Then, there’s the mandatory automatic and 4wd, so it’s not much like an M3.

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    1 Exactly, regarding wagons. I wanted a high mpg vehicle that would carry my model airplanes, and the closest thing available was a Highlander hybrid. A Camry hybrid wagon, if it existed, would get better mpg, handle better, and if done properly, would look better. Oh well.

    Regarding parts shortages, there are a few thousand new, unfinished Chevy and GMC pickups in a lot in Kokomo, IN waiting on parts. I assume they are waiting for semiconductors, but it could be something else. I suspect Toyota may just shut down plants or remove shifts, rather than building incomplete vehicles. John or Sean, do you know?

  4. Roger T Says:

    Maybe Porsche spent too much time pruning designers, it looked to me like a marshmallow from the sides (or a VW) with a completely out of place face. Perhaps this is because of my bias against the whole thing when it came out. I still think it looks ugly, just as ugly as the earlier Panamera.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 Just the Porsche name seems to sell Cayennes. I drove one as a loaner while a recall was being done on my Cayman, and the Cayenne didn’t seem very special, for what was probably a $75K truck. The similar Audi Q7 costs thousands less, and for the world outside the US, there is the Tuareg, also similar, which would cost less yet.

  6. Lex Says:

    I definitely love boxy vehicles. The only station wagon I would really consider getting is the Subaru Outback with the non-turbo 2.5 engine.

    I wish Honda bring back the Second Generation Pilot (2009-2015). It is a very roomy vehicle with plenty of carrying space behind the second row and a hidden third room. The only vehicle that comes close to the 2nd Gen Honda in the current market is the Kia Telluride.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I liked the Subaru Legacy wagon, before they bastardized it with the lift kit, plastic cladding, and in some versions, ridiculous looking huge roof racks, to make the Outback.

  8. MJB Says:

    I didn’t get to leave this comment yesterday, but in reference to GM’s push to become “the most diverse workforce in the world”…

    I wish GM (and other corporations) would stop trumpeting their desire to be inclusive. Just hire the best people for the jobs without prejudice and let the chips fall where they may. Stop over-correcting.

    Diversity for diversity’s sake is NOT good policy. One look at the clown shows going on with the V.P. and the Press Secretary at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. should suffice to prove that. (and I’m a black man pointing this out)

  9. Joe G Says:

    8- Well said MJB. I appreciate your standing up and stating what I suspect most folks around this country feel.

  10. XA351GT Says:

    Kit @ #5 You’re right about that. When Cayenne 1st came out my boos bought one for his wife because she refused to drive the VW version for thousands less. All about status.

  11. XA351GT Says:

    Boss not boos

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 For a few years, there were some interesting variants of Cayenne, including with manual transmissions. Now, they use a number of different engines, including some 600+ hp turbo V8s, but all Cayennes now use ZF 8HP series transmissions, like a Dodge Charger. The loaner I drove had a turbo V6, and would have cost about $75K. The fastest Cayenne is $188,700, without options.

  13. Ziggy Says:

    I long for a modern-day version of the Isuzu Vehi-Cross, the quirky two door true sport utility that had everything I ever wanted except for longevity. Wake me up when a major manufacturer comes out with one of those again. Thanks in advance.

  14. Stu Says:

    3 I was glad I found a low-mileage Golf Sportwagen for my long-haul trips as it’s no longer sold here. The only wagon available is a Volvo, and those are a little out of my price range. The V60 Recharge is exactly what I want in a vehicle, but good luck finding one.

  15. XA351GT Says:

    Ziggy , I’m a afraid you’ll be in a coma before that happens. They want more doors so they can shove more crap that many will never use , but out the tail for.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 About the closest you can get is a 2 door Wrangler, which isn’t very close.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 The Volvos seem pricey, and the V60 doesn’t have enough floor length. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a V90, but I’d probably like it, except for the price and gas mileage.

    Anyway, I’ve been on a gas mileage kick for years for my non-toy car, and the Highlander hybrid had 36/36 ratings. My actual mpg is even better than I expected. I got ~33 for an 1100 mile trip on the interstate going 80-82 most of the time. I get high 30s for mixed driving, with speeds not much over ~60. The first 3601 miles came out to 38.06, but I need to recheck my adding and dividing. 38 sounds too good, given that the higher speed road trip producing 33 mpg is almost a third of the miles.

  18. Norm T Says:

    I had a few Saab 9-5 SportCombi’s and recently a Regal TourX. Very functional, drove like a sedan, looked great!

  19. ChuckGrenci Says:

    18, Norm, I wanted to get a TourX myself but was vetoed by the wife; truly a handsome vehicle. Even the Regal sedan was on my short list but alas I went elsewhere.

    That Peugeot 408 looks pretty snazzy styling-wise as compared to some of the offering in similar category. I suppose it looks kind-of like the Chevy Blazer Electric, which isn’t a bad thing in my eyes mind.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18,19 I like the looks of the TourX, and like that it’s an actual car height wagon, but never seriously considered buying one for three reasons. The gas mileage is mediocre, and it needs premium. Also, it was sold only with AWD in the US, and it seemed destined to become an “orphan,” which turned out to be the case. The later non-wagon Regals were hatchbacks, which I liked, but they were fairly thirsty, even with FWD, and needed premium.

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=40569&id=41557

  21. Joe Sears Says:

    My wife drives a tourx and really likes it. I think the gas milage is in the mid to high 20s with mid grade fuel. She doesn’t drive that much (20,000 miles on a 2019). I was hoping for a GS version with the 310hp v6. She says it’s an old guy (50+) magnet. Quite a few have approached her (60+) to compliment and ask for hat it is.

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