AD #3353 – UAW Targets Transplants, EV Startups; Tesla & Biden Quietly Working Together; Polestar 5 Gets Whopping 884 HP

June 24th, 2022 at 11:52am

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Runtime: 10:10

0:07 UAW Going After Non-Union OEMs Again
1:04 Tesla & Biden Quietly Collaborating
1:55 Tesla Brings Back Enhanced Autopilot
3:31 GM Makes Charging Its EVs Easier
4:32 Nissan to Supply McLaren for Formula E
4:53 Uber & Lyft Drivers Put Ads on Their Vehicles
5:25 Aptera Confirms Hub Motor Supplier
6:36 Mercedes EQXX Ekes Out More Range
7:31 Polestar 5 Gets Whopping 884 HP
8:21 Apricale is the 1st FCEV Hypercar

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28 Comments to “AD #3353 – UAW Targets Transplants, EV Startups; Tesla & Biden Quietly Working Together; Polestar 5 Gets Whopping 884 HP”

  1. Bob Andreocci Says:

    Plz do not send anything to this email. I have another where I get your episodes.

  2. Albemarle Says:

    The auto industry sure has changed in 10 years. So many promises, boasts and predictions, so little actual product. Can’t find an EV to buy? Try to buy an ICE.

    It would be refreshing to get some real auto news about changes coming up in the next year from a manufacturer that currently makes vehicles in volume, that you could visit your local dealer and test drive. Ah, nostalgia.

  3. GM Veteran Says:

    Its amazing to me that the Aptera team continues to find investors. There has never been a commercially successful three wheel car, and for many good reasons. I predict the same fate for Aptera as I have for Elio. Lots of hype, a few prototypes, lots of targets and predictions but no volume production. Maybe Foxconn will buy them, come out with a four wheel version and build it on the line with the Endurance, since both will use the Elaphe in-wheel motors.

    Have a great weekend everyone!

  4. johno Says:

    I looked at an electric drag race on you tube 1/4 mile was fast, but this was so boring, then i looked at a dodge charger hemi run and loved all the noise from that car flat out. I have a mobility scooter that i carry in my van because of walking problems, the electric car is just a big mobility car to get from point a to b to me just boring

  5. Roger T Says:

    #3 – I’m betting on Aptera actually, pretty excited about it. Have been following them and they seem to be tracking well this time around. The idea is great – 40 miles of solar range daily. By this year’s end you or I may be proven wrong, that’s when they plan on starting production. 25,000 reservation holders, so I think this trike has a good chance. BTW there are successful trike companies out there, but Elio was a sham.

  6. Wim van Acker Says:

    @4 try a performance version by TESLA, try a Mustang Mach-e GT, try a Porsche Taycan. Pretty thrilling rides if you ask me.

  7. GM Veteran Says:

    Perhaps the difference lies in the definition we attach to the word success. With only 25,000 reservation holders, and the typical dropoff rate as they convert to actual buyers, the volume looks pretty low. Three wheel Morgan cycle cars also don’t make the bar for my definition of success. While Elio was a dubious concept, at least they were shooting for real commercial success, anticipating sales between 60,000 and 120,000 per year, depending on which press release you read.

    If the Aptera is ever produced, it will fall into a category I call Curiosity Cars. They draw many stares at Cars & Coffee events but hardly anyone can imagine owning one. So many better choices for the money.

  8. DanaPointJohn Says:

    3. Don’t forget ElectraMeccanica and their 100 mile, three-wheeled Solo EV. There is a place for such vehicles, but can they be sold in enough quantity to stay in business is the challenge.

  9. Marshy Says:

    Actually a comment thinking back to yesterday about the ‘captain obvious’ statement made by Elon about his factories loosing money: Tesla built the Giga Austin plant with huge floor space/capacity but if you watch the fly-over videos, only a fraction of that floor space has production line in it. I presume there are plans for future cyber truck and perhaps semi lines (or others?) but until that floor space is used, that investment sits as idle floor space – millions of sq ft of it. In a world where industrial capacity can run 300-1000/sq ft, that’s a lot of capital not working for you. At least they presumable paid cash from working capital.

  10. merv Says:

    another great week of Autoline,thanks

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The solar range for the Aptera is “up to” 40 miles/day, meaning the right latitude on earth, the right time of year, a day with full sun, and the vehicle pointed the right way when parked. Even with a more realistic claim, though, like 15-20 miles a day, it would do a lot of commutes. I’d consider one for Florida, if it ever actually exists and works as claimed.

  12. Bob Wilson Says:

    Elon’s timescale is larger than three month quarters. His goal in new factories is raw materials in and finished product out … including batteries.

  13. wmb Says:

    Regarding the EQXX, I think it’s good that they were about to get more arrange, presumably without having to have retrofitted anything. It’s nice to also see that with having only having about 200 hp, those large range numbers kind of balanced themselves out. Not everyone is looking for an EV that will do zero this to 100 in less than two or three seconds. I would even be willing to loose a little arrange if that would mean getting 300 hp in return! I know for that size of vehicle, range and horsepowers are delicate balancing act. Not having the floor plan and space that bigger vehicles have to store batteries, it would take a delicate balancing act of battery power and horsepower, for things to work out for vehicle of that size.

  14. Sean Wagner Says:

    7 GM Vet – Curiosity Cars is a nice moniker, and three-wheelers have never gained much traction in mature markets.

    I’m partial to the Aptera, though. It’s niche, but the idea of actually being able to use a vehicle that’s fueled directly by sunlight and looks really futuristic is remarkable.

  15. johno Says:

    #6 they are all fast but no noise, i cannot afford any of these but i like to watch racing online and tv but the electrics are boring to watch. If i was looking for an electric, i like the machE

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 A guy who replaced a Model S Plaid with an M5.

  17. Rey Says:

    #3&#13 johno, I guess you like the gas weedeater and gas chainsaws noise as well, very exciting to wakeup to those sounds on a Sunday morning?

  18. Rey Says:

    #3&#13 johno, I guess you like the gas weedeater and gas chainsaws noise as well, very exciting to wakeup to those sounds on a Sunday morning?

  19. ChuckGrenci Says:

    15, There’s a big difference between sound and noise. Motorsports usually has good/great sound.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15,16,17 I think gas weedeaters sound great. No, I’m not serious. They should be battery electric, or not exist at all. I still do “weed eating” around things the old fashioned way, with manual shears.

  21. ChuckGrenci Says:

    18, I’ve transitioned my weed eater and blower to electric; pretty much satisfied (gas blowers generally move more air but my electric is adequate). I’ve still got a gas mower, hedge trimmer, chainsaw (hasn’t been used in years) and
    an edger. I will evaluate when they ‘crap-out’ as to how to replace or remove from my inventory.

    Getting back to auto-sports; I want to hear those engines roar.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I have a gas lawn tractor and push mower, and a battery electric blower. Those are my only power lawn tools. I use the push mower only for trimming, and it’s nearly always hard to start. If it craps out completely, I’d replace it with an electric one. When I bought my current big mower, electric riders for mowing an acre or more didn’t seem to be ready for prime time, and were still using lead-acid batteries. If I were buying a new riding mower now, it might be electric, but I should never need a new one during my lifetime.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 With racing, except for drag racing, electric just doesn’t work that well, even if you don’t like to hear engine sound, because of the limited run time.

  24. Lambo2015 Says:

    Elon wanting good policies and practice put in place for the future of EVs, doesn’t mean he respects the puppet of a president we have who needs cue cards to know where to sit and what to say. Seems like a necessary collaboration.

    Tesla seems to be trying to put themselves in a position for lawsuits. Why offer a lesser version of auto-pilot when you already have issues with consumers expecting too much from the system at its full version. Just seems like a chance to improve the take rate generate some funds but at what risk?

    I think a three wheeled car is a perfect place for an EV. Falling into the motorcycle category they can remove a lot of weight and thus improve range. Plus the tapered designs provide very aerodynamic shapes. For most commuting and go to work cars you typically only need room for a single person. This could also get the price down to where people could afford to buy them as a second vehicle and only use their ICE for trips or where they need to take 3+ people.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Done properly, 3 wheeled vehicles handle well and have good stability. I took a training course for Can Am Spyder, and it worked very will, and would be impossible to roll in cornering, except by sliding into a curb, etc. I suspect Aptera will also be that way, with its widely spaced front wheels and, presumably, with a forward weight bias.


    Between the Spyder and the Slingshot, about 25,000 total 3 wheeled motorcycles have moved per year and that was at their peak. These are not volume sellers. Of course, the spyder and Slingshot are geared more towards fair weather toy than commuting tool like the Aptera. I think the problem for 3 wheelers is that they all require a motorcycle endorsement to operate. Good for getting around safety legislation, bad for sales volume.

    Of the vast majority of licenses, a smaller percentage bother to get a MC endorsement. Of that small percentage, who wants to drive an expensive 3 wheeled non toy commuter vehicle versus just buying a cheap 2 wheeled motorcycle that they got the endorsement for in the first place? I guess you could drive the Aptera in the rain but those days are infrequent and you could easily just drive your other car that you would have to have anyhow. It is a limited volume market in my view unless the Aptera is going to be really cheap…..Which it will most certainly not be.

  27. Lambo2015 Says:

    26 Having a motorcycle and riding as much as I can is often difficult in the Midwest. I could have a beautiful morning and plan to ride to work but by afternoon be riding home in a storm or even snow in fall or spring. Plus a 3 wheel car provides no only protection from the rain but many women hate motorcycles and what the wind does to their hair. Not to mention having limited storage space on most bikes. Taking a laptop or change of clothes in a trike would be easier. Just overall climate control and out of the wind with some storage is a huge change from cycles to 3 wheel car. IMO

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    26 I agree that Spyder and Slingshot are mainly for fun. Some states do, and some don’t require motorcycle endorsements for them. Aptera, with weather protection and free “gas” puts it in a different market. Time will tell if it makes it to production and succeeds.