AD #3355 – Germany & Japan Resist ICE Bans; Cadillac Lyriq Road Test; Ford Taking Bronco Brand To Europe

June 28th, 2022 at 11:52am

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Runtime: 10:18

0:20 Germany, Japan Resist ICE Bans
0:58 VW Sells Part of Electrify America
1:47 Chip Shortage Starts to Ease
3:03 Ford Taking Bronco Brand to Europe
3:48 China Still Stuck in Copy Cat Mode
4:37 Hyundai Group Investigated for Defeat Devices
5:35 Cadillac Lyriq Road Test 
9:21 Fuel Cells for EV Charging

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32 Comments to “AD #3355 – Germany & Japan Resist ICE Bans; Cadillac Lyriq Road Test; Ford Taking Bronco Brand To Europe”

  1. Michael Shipley Says:

    Like the new set.

  2. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Love the new set.

    I think the Lyriq is 62,995 for the RWD and the upcoming AWD will be 64,995.

  3. Buzzerd Says:

    Do manufacturers have much success with copy right fights in China? Is it a bit of a waste of time other than getting the products pulled?

  4. Lex Says:

    It makes sense to use Hydrogen fuel cells to generate electricity and water. However what is the cost per kW to produce this electricity?

  5. rick bradner Says:

    who did the DS art? V. nice!

  6. rick bradner Says:

    who did the DS art? V. nice!

  7. GM Veteran Says:

    The new set looks great, and it looks like the background decor could easily be switched up from time to time.

    Anyone else notice the holdover from old Cadillac in the Lyric report? Watch it again at 5:54 to see the Cadillac logo embossed on the outside edge of the instrument panel. Next to that are the three merlets (ducks) from past versions of the Cadillac crest. Are they trying to say that this Caddy can really zig?

  8. Wim van Acker Says:

    Sean: very nice set!

    @4 generating the electricity at the press event through fuel cell is marketing and what it cost is GM’s business. It is not meant to be cheap per kWh.

    Please note there is no cost per kW but there is cost per kWh. Just like there is gasoline cost per distance traveled and not per travel speed.

  9. GM Veteran Says:

    4 – Not sure of the cost, but I read recently that GM is getting a lot of interest in these portable generator units. Several movie production firms have purchased them to generate electricity on remote shoots instead of using diesel units. I’m sure many more companies that need remote power supplies will purchase these in place of gasoline or diesel powered generators going forward. They are very quiet and don’t produce nasty exhaust fumes.

  10. Wim van Acker Says:

    I believe I saw a Cadillac Lyric in traffic last weekend in the Detroit Metro Area. Could that be? If it was a Lyric, I have to say it looked very nice.

  11. John McElroy Says:

    #5. The water color Citroen DS paintings on the set were done by Christos Roustemis, formerly of GM Design, and now a professor at the College For Creative Studies as well as the owner of his own design firm.


    10) It probably was. I have seen a couple myself. All of them have been silver, or maybe I just keep seeing the same one. It looks amazing on the road. Well worth 60K versus the oddly shaped/proportioned TESLA model Y bar of soap looking vehicle for more money.

  13. Lambo2015 Says:

    Hum, Who didn’t see the back-peddling coming on ICE bans? I believe when it was announced many here thought it was a bit aggressive. Like the typical fuel economy mandates that get proposed and then reality sets in to a more reasonable goal. Which is also why we are now finding that so many automakers cheated on diesel emissions.
    So I also wonder what this means to the claim that no new ICE engines were in development for GM and Ford.

    And less shocking is the fact that a Chinese company is creating knock-off vehicles which are blatant copies of existing vehicles. However I do like the 4 door bug.

  14. Norm T Says:

    The Cadillac Lyriq has been reported many times by reviewers as being the quietest car they ever tested!

    I think the ball is in Lincoln’s court now.

  15. Kate McLeod Says:

    GM Veteran: Not the ducks again. The ducks drove Jerry (Flint) up a tree!

  16. Wim van Acker Says:

    @12, 14: yes, the one I saw was silver, too. Quite a stunning vehicle, GM seems to have done a great job with it. I wish them success with it.

  17. merv Says:

    like the new set,like the new caddy,great show

  18. Don Sherman Says:

    no way is the regen decel in the Cad Lyriq 3.5g!!! that would splatter occupants’ heads on the windshield.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 …and the tires would have traction for barely over one G.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Maybe I should order a Lyriq. I could use it as a summer car in Indiana, even if they never get charging at my Florida condo.

  21. Warwick Rex Dundas Says:

    I like the change of set, especially the Citroen drawing. I also like the change from a head shot to an upper torso shot. One word of caution though. In my part of the world I watch your show while eating breakfast while sitting at my computer. Mixing a green shirt with a crumpet and vegemite may cause unpredictable results!!!

    Seriously though, I watch the 2 Automotive News videos each day as well as your own. Your show is streets ahead due to the quality of the content and the fact that Sean and John obviously know what you are talking about, unlike the attractive ladies at AutoNews.

    Oh, and one last thing. Welcome to the 4 eyes club Sean.

  22. Sean Wagner Says:

    Regarding Ford of Europe, it’s notable that the Kuga PHEV (hybrid) was the second-best-selling electrified vehicle overall there in May. Such a pity that production of Mach-E’s has ground to a halt.

    The Citroen DS is one of those cars that transcends time.

    One thing that hardly gets mentioned about the Lyriq is the total absence of a frunk. Not a game-changer, though. And the car’s clearly garnering a lot of attention even among people who have been completely ignorant of Cadillac’s more recent efforts like the ‘V lineup.

  23. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I don’t know if this link will work but it is the announcement of the Buick Wildcat concept (perhaps they should have use Riviera, but whatever). If the link isn’t good, I’m thinking Autoline will be featuring this in one of their shows.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    23 The link works. I agree that Riviera might be a better name, but I hope they actually build something like that. Buick need more than a few me-too crossovers to have a reason to exist in the US market.

  25. Lambo2015 Says:

    23,24 That Wildcat concept is cool however I have to question the rear seat headroom with those heavily tapered rooflines.
    I think most manufacturers are going to avoid the use of historical model names like Riviera. The EV movement is their opportunity to separate from the old OEM and why keep using names that remind customers of some of the old way things were done? Although Ford doesn’t seem to be going this route with the Lightning and Mach-e but I guess if you build a good EV few will really care what the name is.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Only the older among us would remember, but Wildcat was, basically, a trim level of big Buicks for a few years in the 1960s. I think it more-or-less replaced Invicta, between LeSabre and Electra. It’s probably a good car name, with or without the history of Buick using it.

  27. Bob Wilson Says:

    The tragedy of the commons: “. . . selling off part of Electrify America to Siemens.” Electrify America was not created to sell VW or anyone else’s EVs. If was a penalty for diesel cheating. In contrast the Tesla SuperCharger network was and is critical to selling Tesla EVs.

    The continued SuperCharger growth exceeds the rate of my battery degradation. The first year, I had to spend 4-5 hours at a slow 7 kW charger to drive to Mom’s home. But last night, I used SuperChargers, over 170 kW, all the way in 15-25 minute bathroom/snack/coffee breaks.

    Until the other EV makers realize that fast DC charging, any charging, is critical to their EV sales, they will neglect a critical resource their customers need. Tesla knows charging is critical to EV sales and success.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    27 Tesla superchargers are great, for those who use EVs for highway travel, but what percentage of EV owners do that? I know a few EV drivers, and only one ever uses the EV for road trips. The others use them entirely, or almost entirely within range of home charging. The one who uses the EV for road trips has a Model S, and got in on the last of free supercharger use “for life.”

    Bob, what is the cost per kWh of power from superchargers for users who don’t have special status, as my friend with the MS?

  29. Lambo2015 Says:

    We have beat this dead horse to death. EVs are great commuter cars and fast DC charging or not few people are going to be interested in 25 minute recharge times when traveling.
    Which is why Hybrids make sense and the ICE will still be around a while. There are just applications where a EV isn’t going to be ideal.
    Just saw a post from a new Ford Lighting owner and he was traveling with his 7K lb camping trailer. Said he could go almost 100 miles before needing a recharge but then a charge took 2 hours. I don’t know the details of his battery size or charger used. But most people in the comments section provided an overwhelming PASS..
    Most folks when traveling are on a mission to get to the destination and usually ASAP. So the thought of adding a few hours to the trip sounds horrific.

    I just drove to Florida (Pensacola) from Toledo OH. for vacation and it was a strait through 13.5 hour 922 miles drive stopping twice for about 15 min each time. (added 30 min)
    Had that been that lightning your talking 9 stops for an extra 18 hours. making it a 32 hours trip. The $153 in gas is nothing to me in comparison to an additional 18 hours of travel time. Even if the electricity was free. And that’s only one way! So taking my one week vacation and spending 5 days in Florida opposed to only getting 3 days there yea I’ll buy gas.
    So just saying EVs are great as long as you use them for local commuting.

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    29 Pensacola is closer to Toledo than I would have guessed. It’s about 1100 miles between Cape Canaveral, FL and Kokomo, IN.

  31. Lambo2015 Says:

    30 Yeah it was closer then I thought too. Defiantly doable in a day drive.
    To be fair in the above comparison our rental got 30mpg and we wernt towing a trailer. But even with an EV with 200 miles of range your talking at least 4 stops and stopping every 2.5 hours making it a long day.

  32. Marshy Says:

    Hope that regen paddle never gets confused for a high beam flash or washer squirt.

    I’m a big fan of one pedal driving in a car.