AD #3431 – Tesla Developing Cheaper, Next-Gen EV Platform; GM Considers Baby Hummer; New EV Charger Much Faster

October 20th, 2022 at 11:47am

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Runtime: 10:34

0:00 Tesla Earnings Would Have Legacy OEMs Drooling
1:33 Tesla Developing Cheaper, Next-Gen EV Architecture
2:15 GM Considering Baby Hummer EV
3:41 Bankrupt ELMS Bought By Another EV Startup
4:47 Mitsubishi Concept Previews New Production Small Crossover
5:45 New EV Charger Slashes Charging Time
7:16 BMW Invests $1.7 Billion to Make EVs in the U.S.
8:02 BMW Slashes Paint Shop Emissions
8:55 Waymo Expands Into LA

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14 Comments to “AD #3431 – Tesla Developing Cheaper, Next-Gen EV Platform; GM Considers Baby Hummer; New EV Charger Much Faster”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    Baby Hummer is great idea as long as its price shrinks in comparison to its size.

    New EV charger from Delta doesnt address any adverse affects to the battery? Are there any?

  2. ChuckGrenci Says:

    1, Agreed, a smaller Hummer could be a hit.

    And on chargers, agree again; heavy charging can be tough on batteries. (Though it could be just what a lot of people would want for trips). Low and slow treats batteries the best for longevity.

  3. Frank Meinert Says:

    Misused math, one of my worst pet peeves: “The system weighs 4 times less than today’s fast DC chargers.” Apparently, the new chargers have a negative mass equal to three of today’s chargers.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I would expect very fast charging to shorten the life of batteries, a lot. At least it does with smaller batteries. That’s why phone and laptop batteries aren’t charged at high rates. I can charge model airplane batteries at a 5c rate with the chargers I have, but they will get hot, and not last very many cycles. If the batteries are kept cool it would probably help, but still, I suspect lifetime would be shortened substantially.

  5. wmb Says:

    #1-4.) I agree with the four of you as well! On the charging front, I wonder if thought is that most times EV buyers would charge at home, but the Delta charger was meant to ease wait times, for those few times that a charge was needed when one has used up more range then expected, or during the periodic long travel away from home?!

    While it’s nice to hear about Tesla updates on the Semi and the Cybertrunk from Musk, as well as a new small vehicle platform, what about updates to the ‘aging’ S, 3, X and Y? While Tesla may still after all this time be consider the tip of the BEV arrow, the look of their vehicles (while still attractive) has not seen a substantial visual update in years! A nip hear and a tuck there, has been the most of any real change. With newer vehicles coming to the market, while the may not be able to hold a candle to Tesla’s offerings as they stand, they may be good enough to fit the needs of new EV buyers (in terms of range, power and efficiency)! While Tesla’s vehicles may in fact have made changes and now have much improved quality control, one would never know by just looking at them. If someone has finally decided to make the EV jump, if all they had to go by were the reports of problems from some of their first builds, they may look at other, newer models that are coming to market! Don’t get me wrong, Tesla is currently not having any trouble selling everything that they build! Yet, there will be a lot coming from the competition fast, in the next year or too.

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Tesla continues to have a big advantage for those who use EVs for road trips, but beyond that, not so much. My friend who bought a Model S a while back wouldn’t buy one now, because you can’t get a steering wheel. He, like myself, would not want to use an F1 car hand position continuously for a 12 hour day on the highway.

  7. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Heads up: the configurator for ZO6 is available on the Chevrolet website.

    And the GMC Electric Sierra has been announced and there are YouTube videos available (it looks good to me). Autoline will probably feature the introduction on tomorrow’s show.

  8. Norm T Says:

    Nissan Leaf batteries are air cooled and degrade faster than liquid batteries everyone else uses.

  9. Norm T Says:

    Nissan Leaf batteries are air cooled and degrade faster than liquid batteries everyone else uses.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 If I were younger, I might order one, but at my age, I might not be around when the car arrived. Unless I missed something, it looks like the color choices are the same as for a base Stingray. I’m a little surprised there isn’t a Z06-specific color or two.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    8,9 Yeah, a Leaf definitely wouldn’t like that exceptionally high speed charging. Not only would the batteries not last very long, but they might be likely to catch fire.

  12. ChuckGrenci Says:

    10, My configuration came to about 125k; middle of the road build. A little over the top, money-wise for me; okay, way over the top; still, a guy can dream. I’m coming up on 72 y/o next month, so no spring chicken, but the clock is ticking. Fantastic automobile in any case. I won’t bore you with my configuration but exterior, caffeine and interior, natural; my picks.

  13. Lambo2015 Says:

    I dont know much about battery diagnostics but I wonder if it’s possible to determine if a battery has been fast charged allot or not. Anyone in the used EV market would certainly have reason to be concerned. Replacing a battery could exceed the value of the vehicle. Maybe the car itself keeps track of all its charges and charge rates.
    I could see this seriously affecting the residual value of a car if it can be tracked. You could be buying a 4 year old EV with 8 good years, or 4 years left on a battery.
    So yeah! Maybe a fast charger can shorten the charge times on a trip but at what cost down the road?

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    12 The people who ordered them early and got them at MSRP will probably be able to drive them a year and sell them for a $30K profit, as long as they don’t crash them and keep them in cosmetically perfect condition.

    Elkhart Lake Blue/Natural would probably be my color choices, as with my Stingray.