AD #3450 – Toyota Reveals More Stylish Prius; Genesis Concept Hints at Future EV Design; Aston Martin in Financial Trouble

November 16th, 2022 at 11:58am

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Runtime: 10:03

0:08 EV Price War Breaks Out in China
1:02 Aston Martin in Financial Trouble
1:57 Auto-Brake Significantly Reduces Car Crashes
3:36 Subaru Won’t Use Lidar For Autonomous Driving
5:16 Toyota Reveals All-New, More Stylish Prius
7:19 Genesis Concept Hints at Future EV Design
7:52 GM Signs Hydrogen Production Deal
8:18 Daimler Truck Fuel Cell Semi Completes High-Altitude Tests
9:07 Ukrainian War Vehicle Identified

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18 Comments to “AD #3450 – Toyota Reveals More Stylish Prius; Genesis Concept Hints at Future EV Design; Aston Martin in Financial Trouble”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    1) With manufacturers having the ability to drop anywhere from 9-22% on their EVs, tells me they were charging too much.

    2) Best looking Prius so far. They have always had a funky design and I really like the new look. Looks much better Toyota!

    3) Diamler truck completes high altitude test with “typical load”. Thats about as generic as you can get. Typical load of Styrofoam coolers or typical load of metal car parts? Not sure why its so hard to provide the weight but I’m guessing it was on purpose.

  2. Lex Says:

    The exterior styling of the next generation Toyota Prius is fantastic, however the interior instrument panels and displays are incredibly awful in design and functionality.

  3. Albemarle Says:

    It’s easy to say what technology you’re not going to use with a system that’s not ready for prime time. Wait until someone has a system on the market. If it uses LIDAR, lots of people will be making new decisions. Subaru’s comment means nothing.

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    3 Autonomous driving (and I mean level 5) is starting to have that flying car vibe we were told would happen by 2000. I think they are starting to realize the true scope and difficulties of self-driving in all conditions and on most roads. It certainly looks promising but I have to believe we are much further away than they hype would lead you to believe. As you stated current tech used really means nothing to what will be needed to achieve L5. So good enough for now.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The upcoming Prius looks good, will have substantially better performance, and should get mpg equal to the current one. I hope it’s a little quieter on the highway and under acceleration, but we’ll need to wait to find out. The Toyota release mentions 19 inch wheels which would not be good for road noise, but maybe the lower trim versions will have smaller wheels and taller tires.

  6. Roger Blose Says:

    The new Prius looks great and fresh….no more Studebaker style like the current car! And zippy as well.

  7. Bob White Says:

    The worldwide EV market is about to turn into a bloodbath.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    There needs to be an EV price war in the US, not just in China. If sales crash, maybe Tesla will start selling a less expensive RWD version of the Model Y in the US, like in the rest of the world.

  9. Dave Says:

    Good job on the unidentified Ukrainian vehicle story

  10. ArtG Says:

    The number of EV manufacturers in China sort of recalls the situation in the early 20th century here. In 1908, there were more than 250 automobile manufacturers in the U.S. By 1930, there were 44. I’d imagine we’ll see a big industry shakeout over time, worldwide.

  11. merv Says:

    that Prius is the nicest yet,that should attract new buyers

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 There were probably hundreds of US car companies as recently as the early 1920s. My grandfather had an Elcar, made for a few years in Elkhart, Indiana. My father called cars like that “assembled” cars, because they used entirely purchased mechanical and electrical parts. Engines were Continental and Lycoming, transmissions Borg-Warner, starters and generators Delco-Remy, etc. Kokomo, Indiana had two car companies, Haynes and Apperson, that made their own engines, and started in the late 1800s-early 1900s, but were gone by the early-mid 1920s.

  13. wmb Says:

    The thing that’s interesting to me with the price reductions in China on their EVs, as mentioned in todays story, was the fact that even Mercedes is reducing their price. Normally, when mainstream automakers are experiencing a down turn, the luxury market, usually, are unaffected. Yet, this is not the case for BEVs in China! I wonder if, with the price of EVs in China being so close between each brand, per class of vehicle, that there is not much separation between the cost of a luxury vehicle and that of a mainstream, mass market automobile. So, that what one automaker does on price, another has to do the same! I mean, of the BEVs that have been getting most of the attention, sell at a price that is cost competitive with that offer by Tesla (premium) and Mercedes (luxury). The exception being the $4K mini EVs that are apart on the GM joint venture, the vehicles from Xpeng and other cost nearly as those offered in China, from BMW, Mercedes and Tesla. That’s why when I see people say to ‘beware the wave of low cost BEVs from China’, I don’t see it happening! For, the EVs that have the greatest chance of selling in other markets, for the most part, cost just as much as those that are currently on sell in the markets they fear they will over run! Right now EVs cost a lot of money every where around the world and until the cost of materials come down, they remain expensive no matter what region of the world they come from! On top of that, the goal of every business person is to make money, so why would a company from China, sell their products in other parts of the world, for less, when the quality of their offerings is just as good and they know the target buyer is willing to top dollar?

  14. Bob Wilson Says:

    Most EV manufacturers are working at a loss … except Tesla. Like the old joke about losing money on each unit, what are you going to do? “Make it up in volume.”

    In China, it is also a jobs issue so a lot of government support at all levels

  15. Bobby T Says:

    12, back sometime in the 1950s, I saw an Elcar roadster in Hackensack NJ. It was bright yellow, and had a radiator like a Rolls Royce. It was beautiful! I’ve been to dozens of old car shows since, but I’ve never seen another Elcar.

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    13 The question on why sales are slowing in China wasnt really covered. The price wars may be due to a sales slump but is that slump due to an economics? A flood of available product? Or has the EV market started to reach capacity?

    I would really like to see a comprehensive study done to show what EV adoption will really look like. Cause if the average car ownership is 9-11 years (which according to autolist.com it is). Then that tells me that even after no ICEs can be sold in 2035 you have at least 11 more years before some people are ready to replace their car, and thats average which means some folks keep a car 20 years. So you wont have full adoption on into 2050. Barring some other type of ban. Thats also assuming that everyone will buy an EV when there due for a replacement prior to 2035. We may find a huge surge in ICE vehicles sold in 2034.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 I’ve never seen an Elcar, but heard my grandfather talk about his, and saw a picture of it. It looked very impressive in the photo, and had a straight 8 engine. It was a sedan.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16 Maybe the Chinese car market, in general, is getting saturated. The average age of cars in the country would be low, so, presumably, replacement rate would be low. Also, a very high percentage of the population is in large cites, where cars don’t make much sense anyway. Shanghai and Beijing, and maybe other cities have good subway and bus systems.